OK. I see what u think. Why on other pages are the same kind of information? So why can't I add them too? Look to every outfit quest, and to all the things you need for this quests and you will see that there are the same kind of information. Pleese explaine me this. Zvezdiica 15:03, 15 January 2007 (PST)

I was just following someone else's example first time, but later I let the creatures stay listed, but the items themselves should not be mentioned under the Danger passage.
The complete quest info is listed under Spoiler, which you can choose to show or hide, and the first basic info should not have too much specific information.

  Zinina     My Contributions      Talk   15:09, 15 January 2007 (PST)

I looked through the quest pages again, and about half of them list items already on the basic info, but my personal opinion is that no more than the creatures should be listed there. If you want to know specifics you can choose to show the quest spoiling info.

Any thoughts anyone?

  Zinina     My Contributions      Talk   15:26, 15 January 2007 (PST)

Based on that argument... the mere existence of a page called "Demon Helmet Quest" (for example) could be considered quest spoiling. This also needs to be approached in a practical sense while we consider it pragmatically.

On the "Quest" page, there should be enough information to identify the quest and to establish approximately how approachable (difficult) it is. This is accomplished by the name of the quest, the reward(s), and the list of dangers. There is some debate about whether or not we should also list a general location or vicinity, but currently the wiki community has decided to also display the general location of the quest (not the specific location).

On the "Quest Spoiler" page, there is a large warning to prevent someone from accidentally reading the spoiler if they do not want to. This is not some kind of punishment and is not done because we absolutely disparage the use of quest spoilers... it is done completely to make the wiki more usable and friendly for a wider audience.

The root of our current discussion comes from border-line quest spoiling information in normal wiki articles. For example... items pages that tell you how many of them are needed for what specific quests. This information could potentially reduce someone else's enjoyment of the game by spoiling quest information.

While this is our intent... not every page on the wiki follows these guidelines. Please help the TibiaWiki community by removing quest spoiling information from any "normal" articles whenever you notice it there. Since we do not want to "lose" this information... please add it to the correct "Quest Spoiler" if it is not already there.

-- Semper ubi sububi in caput tuum
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 05:55, 16 January 2007 (PST)

Thanks for clearing it out a bit, this is more or less how I thought it should be, but there are always borderline cases that make it difficult for new editors like me. I tend to keep an eye out what kind of info is rejected and revoked by other editors, and I'm starting to get to know which editors to 'trust'... :)

--   Zinina     My Contributions      Talk   06:05, 16 January 2007 (PST)

No problem... we all started somewhere. If you are curious about some specific user, you can always check their contributions. You can usually tell if they make useful edits from just looking at a couple of their contributions.

Also, you should certainly trust all of the TibiaWiki:Administrators. They are all very competent and helpful if you have any questions.

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--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 06:18, 16 January 2007 (PST)

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