Hello. Where did you find cyclops in Shadowthorn, which you added here. I have never seen them and some others are confused as well. Can you respond where they are in Talk:Shadowthorn or revert your edit if you confused the cyclops and location. Thank you. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 18:36, 17 April 2006 (CDT) 13:43, 19 January 2007 (PST)

There are two cycs in a room with a single elf scout. Near the entrance to Shadowthorne there is a ladder down hole to the right. If you go down the hole, head south, then east, you will see some stairs down. Go down and you will find the cycs and scout there. Hope that makes sense. :) ~ Uno time

I dint know you get an asterisk when some one talks in your user page, sorry for not posting that about the cys in shadowthorn.
 Kwigon the sharpshooter   Talk   -February-3-2007.

If you don't mind me asking, what is up with all the undo vandal edits/revisions between you and Warlock Mortimer? It's creating a huge mess on the recent changes list and if you hadn't noticed, he's undoing all of your undoes. I hadn't noticed any vandalism on these pages and it just seems as if you are targeting him for the changes. I'm not saying the undoes aren't called for, I just can't tell why they are being done. Hope you receive this before the entire recent changes list is covered with undoes. Thanks ~ Uno time

OK he just edited a random person user page writing that he is vandalizing the site and that he will keep going. After checking his edits i reach conclusion he is making number at random in mummy he changed 90 max attack to 80 then some days later to 60 then to 50 and he keeps going until we have a mummy with 10 max damage he is doing that in random pages small little changes adding more attack to weak creatures and removing attack to strong creatures and making fake spells and number for creatures with no damage in their spells. Just check all his edits you will notice the pater.
 Kwigon the sharpshooter   Talk   -March-31-2007.

Alright, thanks for the quick reply. If this is indeed true, he should be banned from making any changes and lose his account here for the shear number of vandalisms. I hadn't noticed this myself but thanks for explaining, I really appreciate it. Good luck and keep up the good work :) ~ Uno time

OMG he is undoing my undos about his undos -.- wheres withelases he needs to get looked and any contribution he made need to get back how it was before him.
 Kwigon the sharpshooter   Talk   -March-31-2007.

I'm here to make everyone know how creatures act in tibia. I have a good knowledge about almost all monsters after 2 years of game play. All damages has been set as if you were wearing an armor. I really edited this guy you said because he was destroying whole contents of pages of this website, like juggernaut's page. I'm trying to let monsters as better as possible according to tibia, but you simple think I'm ruining tibiawiki. I'll keep undoing your crazy changes like putting a water elemental to cause 1000+ damage and also changed geomancer's hp to 400, as well as many other changes. You don't even know if it is right or not, you just want to undo my changes, without any good reason. -- Mortimer

I ask you to please restrain yourself from making such a crazed edit spree in all of the wikipages if you are quarreling with somebody. There is the talk page for that kind of matter, and I would appreciate if you took that to another way of discussing it. I just read Mortimer's reasons to the edits, and I do not think they are of a vandal. A vandal would not even take his time to explain why is he doing it and why. Please take this in consideration. The wiki is not a stage to quarrels.

21:17, 31 March 2007 (PDT)

Kwigon the sharpshooter, please do not edit pages without providing a useful "summary." Because of the dispute over your edits, it has become very difficult to verify anything you have updated recently on this wiki, and it has produced a large amount of work for myself and other wiki editors. Also, regardless of who is correct, edit wars can be considered vandalism, and you may be blocked from editing this wiki because of them. From now on, always explain and justify your edits. If there is a disagreement over something, DO NOT continue to edit the page... wait until an agreement or compromise is reached on the Talk page. Consider this your only warning for this type of action. If you continue to disrupt this wiki, you will be blocked from editing. -- Fac ut gaudeam
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 07:31, 2 April 2007 (PDT)

Sorry for taking a week to answer but my computer crashed and my monitor burned and in easter week no coffee net with internet is open. Well i saw 2 recent edits from warlord 1 of them he changed a user page and write something like this: "I will keep vandalizing this wiki like i have been doing from the last months" -something like that- after that i checked his edits an notice alot of of small changes like the MPA drop for Bones, he say is a waster to hunt quaras in his notes because they are the most powerful monster in tibia and more info that looks 100% wrong, he changed a lot of monsters max attack by making them stronger or weaker, little by little making small changes in the attack that look ok but if you look all his changes you will see he is making up all those numbers just to confuse people to thing strong monsters don't hit that much when thats not truth. I thout that it was ok to revert his edits as he just confessed to be a vandal in some one else user page so why not to revert his "fake" info. I did wrong in making so many changes, am sorry for making that, i was trying to help but I chose the bad option, I will talk in whitelaces user talk next time to avoid problems if i think some one is adding fake info.
 Kwigon the sharpshooter   Talk   -April-9-2007.

I understand your frustration, but if you don't supply us any kind of information regarded to that it is kind of hard to keep track of what really is going on. If that happens again talk to any of the admins and explain the situation entirely to avoid that kind of ruckus around. -- Maverick the hunter ω talk ω contribs 12:34, 9 April 2007 (PDT)

Yes i will report next time i see any weird info added, I learned the lesson.
 Kwigon the sharpshooter   Talk   -April-11-2007.

You said you know how to poison monsters, is this with the poison arrows? Or a vial of slime?

No arrows or vial, you can only poison rotworms from the katana quest by making them walk over the poison fields. I will give you a hint: you need distance weapon and boxes to do that.
 Kwigon the sharpshooter   Talk   -June-13-2007.

Sorry for the double save but i got an error after i saved the avalanche page i thought it din't got saved so i did the changes again. I got some page that says query error time lap extended insert your own query logo error qwt something like that can remember ._.
 Kwigon the sharpshooter   Talk   -July-29-2007.

I think you should take more care, look what happened to Dharalion's page. Mortimer

I never got to see the page after i save it because i got an error page instead of the saved Dharalion page. That bug is really annoying.
 Kwigon the sharpshooter   Talk   -August-1-2007.

Is there a way to delete image I uploaded or I have to inform some one to delet them?
 Kwigon the sharpshooter   Talk   -August-1-2007.

Only admins can delete pages and images. -- Quanto sono infedeli, in realta, gli uomini italiani?
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 06:28, 27 August 2007 (PDT)

Need an Admin to delete these 2 images I uploaded ( DS_Raid_In_Rook ) & ( Me_Using_A_Poison_Katana ).
 Kwigon the sharpshooter   Talk   -August-1-2007.

It looks like they have already been deleted. If they still exist, and I just can't find them, please provide links to the image pages. -- Ioco optimo delactamur
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 05:26, 1 November 2007 (PDT)

Drown Immune

Hey, Kwigon, how did you choose the name "drownimmune"? If there's no real reason from the game, then I suggest we change it to "waterimmune", to match the name of the element used... in the same way we already have "fireimmune", "poisonimmune", "energyimmune", etc. Logically, these creatures are immune to water... not to drowning. -- Ridiculum sum, ergo sum
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 08:47, 30 November 2007 (PST)

I replied to your message on my talk page. -- Nullo metro compositum est.
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 11:51, 30 November 2007 (PST)

Happy New Year To All.
 Kwigon the sharpshooter   Talk   -January-07-2008.

Well yeah I also hunt them a lot at least for a few levels in my 80s. I admit it not often that you get over even 50 gps, but I remember the highest I looted was 68 because it's a luck number to me.Perhaps I was delusional and it was a Corsair. Well we can keep it at 48gps for now and if I ever get it again, I'll make sure it's a cutthroat. -  Walpole   Talk   -February-13-2008.

Moving and redirecting pages

At the bottom of every page, there is an option "Move this page". When you click it, you will see a new page with 2 textboxes. One called "To new title", this would be the new pagename with proper naming according to the standards. The other textbox is for entering a reason. The two checkboxes are self-explanatory.
Redirecting is even easier. We can use the page Assassin Stars as an example. However, when you go there, it will automaticly redirect you to the page Assassin Star. Now click the link called "(Redirected from Assassin Stars)" under the pagename. When you edit the page now, you can see how a redirect is made. Using #redirect [[pagename]]!

If you have any questions, let me know :)

Temahk 08:43, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Ice Cream Cone

What are the colour of Ice Cream Cone (Chilly Cherry) and Ice Cream Cone (Crispy Chocolate Chips)? <·> Hunter of Dragoes <·> My Talk <·> My Contributions <·> 16:37, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. <·> Hunter of Dragoes <·> My Talk <·> My Contributions <·> 16:14, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Hai Kwigon, about the hand of cursed fate life drain; here's the cam: http://www.speedyshare.com/173963556.html Fastforward to 21:14, you'll see a darkred hit of 833, with 833 in the default channel (you lose 833 hp etc) Thus I'd say it's just the lifedrain (combo with a 380~ melee, by the way. that hit was next to it in 'normal' red numbers) Daken Thundermaster 20:46, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok I don't have nor want to use tibia cam but as long you are sure of what you add is fine.
 Kwigon the sharpshooter   Talk   -July-31-2008.

Cool your jets

No offense but, you really need to cool down a bit. your edit summary:

Seems you're a little angry, I know it gets frustrating putting up with vandalism, but getting angry over it isn't really necessary, and that is what they're trying to achieve (or, maybe not directly in some cases) -- Sixorish 04:27, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Shenlong Sword retreat

Sorry about that... I was just thinking about it and suddenly started searching on Wikia about this so-called "Shenlong sword" that I had seen on TibiaBR.com. I found it on the Unused Sprites section. Later, I remembered that TibiaBR retreated, saying that the Shenlong sword was just a fake. Then, I came here to erase my mistake, and I saw your message... I am really, really sorry... I really like to help Wikia out.

Sincerely, Vini'shocks

Paladin armor

Hello, i play in two diferent servers, honera and zanera, in honera the price is around of 70-90k but in zanera i see offers of buyers of 20k and i see offers of sellers in 35k i can think then the price in zanera is 20-40k (sorry for my bad english i am mexican)

Edit to bread

I want to know why you reverted my edit to bread on the 22 of July. If no response is provided I will take that as vandalism (judging from your previous behavior of wich you have been warned on this page) and report you to an administrator. -V- 01:31, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

First before answer you I want to know when I acted as a "vandal" and second I think you can figure it yourself why I reverted your eddit.
 Kwigon the sharpshooter   Talk   -Nobember-15-2008.

I think you acted as a vandal because you reverted a perfectly fine edit with the comment "Bad Eddit". Judging by your spelling and sintaxis I can deduce your level of english is not even enought to grasp the concept of what a good or bad edit is. To put it bluntly, if you don't understand what I did at all, then don't touch it, or else give me a proper logical explanation.

Bread can be made with ANY fluid container, not just toughts or buckets, I clarified this. If you want to further intruduce an example of items that could be capable of this feat a proper edit would be something like this:

Bread can be made. Using a scythe Scythe.gif to cut wheat Wheat.gif from a wheat field, grind it to flour Flour.gif in a mill, add water with any fluid container (E.G a trough Trough.gif or bucket Bucket.gif) filled with water to make Lump of Dough Lump of Dough.gif and bake on an Oven Oven.gif or on a Coal Basin Coal Basin.gif.

I hope I made my point clear this time.

In your eddit you say you can do bread with any fluid container and thats what am reverting cause you can only use buckets or troughs, any fluid container would mean you can use a vial of water or a cup, wich you cant do. My inglish is not good cause am spanish, at least I have a brain to see where is the mistake in your eddit
Kwigon the sharpshooter 02:13, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

War hammer

Check what is wrote on the notes for Nomad and also Nomad/Loot_Statistics. That is why I removed nomad from this page. Beejay 19:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

I left a message for you on User talk:Beejay‎, if you dont like my edits perhaps you should change the Nomad page so that there is less confusion like this in the future. Beejay 20:11, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Merry (Early) Christmas!!!

Hello Kwigon,

I know you probably don't know me very well and wonder why I’ve just posted Merry Christmas huh? Well I was looking at your page and couldn't help but notice your image of yourself as a monster didn't have a transparent background. Personally it didn't look very well that way so I took the image into my workshop (Paint Shop Pro 8) and added one for you! ^_^

Kwigon the sharpshooter2.gif

I uploaded it as "Image:Kwigon the sharpshooter2.gif" so your old one is still in it's place I thought you could upload this one as a new version of you old image or just delete it if you don't like it. The feather still looks a bit choppy but I can fix that up later if you want. ^_^

Well I hope you like it and Merry Christmas to you!



Death damage

just out of curiosity i was wondering how you tested death damage foggy 01:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

unholy book

i'm not putting the SS as a loot of my hunt, i'm putting there so the people can see it, there is just one SS from a lock room...i think it's good for the one who enter in the page And it's one of the first in tibia, this is a "Rare" iten. if we can do that, edit the great axe! spider toy and a lot of others itens. this is a rare drop of a hard boss


Please use Invisibility and Paralysis and not Invisible or Paralyze, as they're refering to the wrong thing. About the immunities not being displayed, that was Sixorish fault.

NeWsOfTzzz 15:41, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Poison Dagger in Centipede


I saw your edit in Centipede's Page, and I agreed it dropped Poison Dagger once, but It was before Liberty Bay Update, so, you should check them before rewrite the page. I'll keep your edit, but I think you should check that as fast as possible.

Manjyome Black - March 21st, 2009; 16:26 GMT-3

Bot List


There's a lot of people from Luminera who cheats... wow.

An additionla information... player Lady'Jasmin tried to kill me at Orc Fortress. I survived, but three of my team don't. So, he (Lady is a man) is not only a macro user but a monster lurer. If there was a Gamemaster online, this guy wasn't a problem anymore.

Manjyome Black - April 26th, 2009; 11:58 GMT-3

Solo Fernfang at lvl 39 and after that 7 more times? I thought you are paladin, and fernfang can be killed only by druids.Pattre Kempe 21:54, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

I thought addind a Screen would be good since many People do not even belive that it exists (by the way I've got it from a Elf Scout ;))Bitter Soul 18:17, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Because the item was unobtainable until this last update. its an extremely rare item. Libera was first world to loot it and so i posed that like they do on other rele rare items. So how about you stfu and stop try'n to control my posts. signed by:Wusetaz

@your thread (2674496) on technical support boards

Hi, I know I posted a reply in that thread, but I come here to wiki more often than I go to technical support board on tibia.com. So I thought I'd write here as well. I don't know what the easiest way is to explain how you should do it (unless you have a character on Celesta that I could tell in pm, or if I make a new character on Luminera). If I write here a lot of people can still see how it's done and use it to pin point the server they want to send DDoS attacks to. However, send me a message and I can explain it here if you want. You can always delete the message afterwards.
Nevaran 15:40, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

protected articles

In response to your edit (accidentally on my user page, rather than talk), Bennie recently lowered the protection of User:Sixorish/Protect to autoconfirmed. You should be able to edit the creatures now. If there are any more protected articles, could you compile a list for me to edit? (don't feel like going through hundreds of creature articles to find which need it) -- Sixorish 01:10, 8 July 2009 (UTC)


Could you take care of User:Trith189? He's very obviously an egoist who only registered to be able to hunt Water Elementals alone.. Just look at his edits and his register date, all he's doing is removing the very important fact of water elementals (Helmet of the Deep), if you don't know that fact you won't hunt them.
NeWsOfTzzz 13:49, 12 July 2009 (UTC)


App.Sheng and Magic Light Wands

Even "if there's a spawn of 100 Shengs somewhere" and, on whatever-Land, only 6 bosses appeared, the droprate won't change: It will be the same almost-every-killing drop all thousand times on "somewhere" and all six times on "whatever-where", don't you think? This way, I assume that we can't clasify that as a rare drop only because the bosses spawns rarely, at most that it's only a rare item on Rookgaard. I'll not undo your edit anymore, cuz I am really bored of this, but I hope you understand my point of view. Sincerely Jean satan 20:55, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

br tags

Just found it googling:

Differences Between HTML and XHTML:

In HTML the < br > tag has no end tag.

In XHTML the < br > tag must be properly closed, like this: < br />.

I guess it's all about standards, of course br without slash works, but new standards say to use the slash to close tag (tags which doesn't need closing like br, img etc. should have slash at the end). Hope you understand what I mean, in html both br and br/ will work, but in xhtml only br/.

  °○   ×  Sv.  ×  ×  Talk  ×   ○°   17:04, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

sign pages

I understand it is comom to sign pages when users or forget or don't know thy shuold sign. But the mesages becomes senceless when you add a bolded "remeber to sign pages" in end of the mesage. If u want to advise the person to sign his page, just sign for him and put a mesage straight bellow, saying 'remeber to sign talk pages ', but insert it in the persons message is violate someone else message.


 Maguu 09:11, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


Hi Kwigon. I see you are doing a very good job contributing to the wiki, although you're sometimes uncertain if you made any typos or mistakes. There's a quite easy way to prevent this, which I also use. It is a firefox extension (dunno if you use firefox), which can be downloaded here. It will underscore all "wrong" words with a red line, with a right-mouse click you can see alternatives and choose the correct one. Just trying to help you a bit ;) ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 15:29, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Hehe am at work and the use explorer, but yea at my house I use word to find spell mistakes, My english is like 95% good most of the time, will try to get that for my firefox on my home PC. Thx.
--Kwigon the sharpshooter 15:37, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

English version of the same site here: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3497 Just don't rely on it too much because it won't underline everything incorrect (this is especially the case for proper nouns), and if you're used to British English it may still underline your words because they aren't part of US English. -- Sixorish 15:51, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


See the conversation here about the forced preview issue. I want to add a new group of users who can rollback edits, but until that happens you can do something about the preview. See the second comment i made there. If it is not clear then email me. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 14:50, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


I'm very well aware of HotA is Helmet of the Ancients. 2 floors below the green djinn is the final (library tomb?) in HotA Quest.

<badge user="Rathoz"/>
06:54, 24 July 2009 (UTC)


Maybe you won't know because your on a non-pvp server but this is how it goes, as I believe. Training distance isn't like training melee, shields block melee attacks, where armor reduces the hits. Paladins dont need 2 rats (or something) hitting a monk to take its "shielding spots" because distance is only affected by armor. OK, I haven't exactly tested this but I believe that there is no shield blocking to it. To "confirm" what I know: I have trained alot on my noob paladin by attacking my high level knight friends, even having a good shield and skill it has little effect (if any) as to what damage I do. I may be wrong but a creature's distance should also apply to this rule, should it not? beejay 22:11, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Thats for human vs human/monster, monster agains human can be blocked in a 100% with good shield and skills, for example I can be afk for 5 hour next to a hunter and it won't hit me (till he train his skill up) If what you say is tru he would hit me 10s and 30s almost every round.
--Kwigon the sharpshooter 22:46, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

I've atleast noticed with elf scouts that when they miss it sparks and not puffs (like it would do with a melee attack), I also don't remember puffing when hitting another player with a spear. I may be wrong but I cannot test this out in game now, so feel free to check for the both of us, if you would like. :) beejay 23:01, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

If you're sure I'm wrong then just changed it back. I don't think I am but I cannot test this out either way, I'm just going by what I remember seeing. I don't think CIP would go to such measures to make a monsters distance that much different to players distance and we can establish that both get skills over time and they both have a range to their attacks, I simply just don't see they would make one be blocked by something, that the other isn't blocked by. But, seeing as you play a pally and I don't you may be right but, missing and blocking with a shield are still two things that are hard to tell apart, or have you tested this? beejay 00:01, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Not a paladin with 10 skills and small stones, obviously not. But a low level paladin (10-20) with 60s skills and normal spears can easily hit a knight of 90+ with skills 90s and mms (and the rest of the eq you would expect a 90+ knight to wear). And ok, I'll go with what you said because I can't test out for myself, but I'd just like to tell you there is no such thing as "distance melee" attack, because melee means close combat which, is the opposite to distance. :) beejay 10:45, 25 July 2009 (UTC)


Were you going to apply for rollback rights? The preview thing isn't intentional, the code isn't working right now and if you become rollback it will let you bypass it when the JS code is reverted to the last stable revision. Anyone, as it stands, can edit without having to preview; this should be changed back though because it was applied for a reason (which I can't remember right now). -- Sixorish 23:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Ey slimes do to get strong so stop changing it. Comment by [[1]]

slow loading on monster pages

Looks like you are on-line now, is it only me or the monster pages are taking 3 or 4 minutes to load in your pc too? All user pages open normaly here, except monster ones.--Maguu 03:03, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


If you are really interested about watching videos of tibia, there are 3 ways~(i used first one today). 1- is called tibiacam tv, it used to be sold by tibiabr, but then tibiabr admins said the creator of tibiacam tv stoped talk to then and they stoped support that, but the website of the creator still updates the software regularly; second way is called tbialive it is not support by tibiabr and they even forbided that the website gets advertised there cuz they say don't trust the creator (i guess he don't want share cash with then), but their website looked like a bot website and i didn't dare download it, the third way is something called "vcam" a free programn to record and watch videos, but looks like it got bought by tibialive and is not supported by tibiabr also.
To watch videos from tibiabr like the one warlock mortimer linked i downloaded the software from tibiacam tv website, the version to watch is free. But avast, free av n norton 360 identifyed some kind of hiden grayware (low risk level) on it, so i just instaleld it in a junk piece of pc i had here, and i would say is not safe to install it in ur normal pc.-(forgot to put 2 tidles lol)-Maguu 06:46, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

edit summaries

Not to be mean or anything, but could you try cut down on edit summaries which don't summarize your edit? The purpose of the summary is to ease the tediousness of scrolling through revision histories and give other contributors an insight as to what you changed, not provide reading material on the RC.

You are more than welcome to make comments on the relevant talk pages, but I don't think people want to read irrelevant stuff (like commenting on a vote) when browsing page histories. -- Sixorish 05:34, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about that. I didn't know you wanted to test it. I just saw that there was a lot of old stuff in the notes and then his bad edit so I decided to take care of it.
I re-wrote the strategy for The Lord of the Elements now, but I forgot to remove the review tag. Is the strategy ok now? If you think so you can remove the tag :)
Nevaran 10:10, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure the lord of the elements is not immune to physical damage. I think the paladins that I've killed it with have used assassin stars. If it was immune the paladin would be absolutely useless there since it's already immune to holy.
Nevaran 18:10, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Please help me report and block the user polaxos because he is erasing all the pages ha can since 40 minutes now. I'm new at this stuff and don't know to properly use the system to report. Act quickly before he ruins the wicki!

Yours: SonGohan

deleted pages

You can check polaxos fake pages in the deletion log. Maguu 12:20, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Worm Punisher

Are you sure about that item? Nobody has added any content to that item article.

<·> Hunter of Dragoes <·> My Talk <·> My Contributions <·> 23:29, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

When somebody writes to you, he/she wants a reply, even if it is just "I edited the page". Remember to do that next time.

<·> Hunter of Dragoes <·> My Talk <·> My Contributions <·> 17:14, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

About Luminera page

You will add every item that was rare time ago, but not anymore?

the topic is "rares in luminera" not "once time rares in luminera".

the queen sceptre must be removed from that list. Sez The Withe 00:46, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

hot cuisine quest

I am curious why you undid Solracxealz edits before on Hot Cuisine Quest spoiler. Using <br /> with the slash '/' and &lt; &gt; are correct web standards. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 13:20, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Isen't the standart here to use just br and not br/? Like 955 of the pages in this wiki uses normal br to jump to the next line. Well if the wiki standard is to use br/ and the other one, theres alot of pages that needs to be updated (almost all of them)
--Kwigon the sharpshooter 14:20, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Although the <br> and <br/> and <br /> do the same, there is a little difference among them. I think <br> was perfectly correct with HTML 3.2 and 4.0, but with the introduction of XHMTL 1.0 (which is used by this wiki, or rather by the mediawiki software) it became more correct to use <br />. The reason behind it is every tag needs another one to close it, e.g. <table> needs to be closed with </table>. It would be odd to close br though, you would get something like <br></br> with nothing between it. To cut the story: technically it does not matter what you use, since the mediawiki software converts all of them to <br />, but using this one is a bit better. This does not mean every <br> tag needs to be changed to <br />, but changing the other way around is kinda... not correct. About the brackets, I don't know what standard is used for them. Special characters like them are probably converted too. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 15:48, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

It does seem to be a standard on some articles, though i am not sure why. Like Bennie said, it does not really matter except <br /> is the xhtml standard. I try to change them when i see them on a page and remember to change it. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 15:52, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Well i like more <br> than <br /> For once its shorter and faster to type, and second it also makes the pages shorter, using the new one would add 500 to 1000 more characteres per page. So we should leave people use the new and not update the old one and not change new one into old one? I would like to see a standard for this and the others like <b><b/> instead of using 3 ''' '''.
--Kwigon the sharpshooter 16:30, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

And I would like to see a cure for cancer. Seriously, making a standard for a standard (HTML/XHTML) is lame. Don't worry about it, use whatever you wish to use. As explained by Bennie, there is no difference between the two in practice.

Oh, and by bringing up this issue you have 'wasted' more bandwidth than we ever would if we were to use <br /> rather than <br>.

Temahk 16:52, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

@Temahk: What you mean by "you have 'wasted' more bandwidth than we ever would if we were to use <br /> rather than <br>" I have never used <br /> I like the other one.
--Kwigon the sharpshooter 16:59, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I hope you understood what I explained, because when I read your comment "it's shorter to type and saves up characters on pages" I don't think you completely understood what I said. Let's just say, don't change <br /> to <br> please. As for standards, use wiki markup if possible, this makes it easier to read the code for unexperienced users.
^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 20:30, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
P.S. I think Temahk tried to say <br /> using more bandwidth is not significant enough to mention.

Orc Spearmen' spear damage

After further testing, I realized that I was wrong with the spear damage.
Here's the damage taken from my latest testing attempt:
6 4 2 6 6 4 2 3 5 2 2 2 2 3 6 1 7 1 7 2 1 6 2 4 4 2 4 3 1 8 4 1 7 5 6 3 4 3 6 4 6 3 2 7 3 5 7 7 4 7 5 5 4 3 6 5 4 4 7 8 6 4 2 1 1 5 1 3 4 6 3 6 3 1 7 6 5 4 1

Therefore, what max. damage for spear attack would you suggest?
Cykotitan 02:12, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Did you test it wearing no equips?
--Kwigon the sharpshooter 02:48, 17 August 2009 (UTC)


It's been a while since I have had time to check up on here but, Kwigon, just re-read what you wrote. NeWs has any right to add content to wiki as you do, while you have no right to tell people to stop contributing. And whether you agree or not NeWs did make a very good contribution with the Damage Modifier. Yes, I've heard plenty from you about what NeWs has done, I think it's about time that you just let it go before you get too personal. Perhaps if you was nice to NeWs from the start and asked him politely to re-check them, maybe NeWs would have stayed around long enough to "finish" the job as you so put it.. Good day/night. beejay 01:07, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

I just don't like how many eddits he has done that has ended removed information that cost me time and money to get (yes many eddits of him removed stuff I added), yes I try to be nice to him, he just ignored me... months later I have to finsihs what he start and leave half way... but idk he just seems not to care to fix what he did wrong, not to fisnish what he start.
--Kwigon the sharpshooter 01:15, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

If I was you, I wouldn't have been happy about it either. But, all he did as far as I saw (on the war and worker golem pages) he only added a ? mark to the ends of the numbers. I'm sure he didn't do that out of spite for you but he still wouldn't know for sure if they were correct numbers or not. And I apologise (late night :p) all I remember is everyone including me being unhappy with the changes to the creature pages. It could have still been worse though, atleast wiki saves the history of pages. :) beejay 01:31, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Rusty armor - unrusting statistic

Why you put it on talk page instead of add to unrusting statistic (link on rusty armor (semi-rare) page)?
Tazi 09:41, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Because am gona use more, theres not enough uses yet.
--Kwigon the sharpshooter 16:40, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Add them to statistic every time you unrust them. To be honest nobody need them on talk page.
Tazi 16:49, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I really don't know how and like I said before, If I where uber lucky to get 5 paladin armors in 6 armors, the stadistics would look awesome and people would go crazy buying those, just to find out It was just me the lucky one.
--Kwigon the sharpshooter 16:54, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Second Fansite Soccer Cup - Invitation

Hello Kwigon!

Erig chose me to be the TibiaWiki's soccer team leader/captain.
I'm inviting you to join our team.

Requirements to participate:

  1. You need to have a character at level 10 on Calmera with access to Yalahar;
  2. You need to have free time between 17:00 to 20:00 CET on weekends (month not yet decided).

Regarding the #1: you have enough time to create a character on Calmera and level him/her up, and you'll get help to get access to Yalahar.

Hunter of Dragoes,
TibiaWiki's Soccer Team Captain - 15:36, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Small question

Hey Kwigon, I see you have been unactive for some months but I kinda hope you still check your user talkpage sometimes so you read this. You did a lot of elemental/physical weakness testing for Creatures and I wanted to ask you, could you write some tips and tricks about how you do this for other users? I think it's important that when you know something useful, you share it with others, with that intention I wrote Help:Screenshot Guide. Maybe you could write a page like Help:Weakness Testing or something, it doesn't have to be very long or complicated, maybe explain what runes/spells are good to use to get reliable percentages for fire/energy/ice/earth resistance, how you test drown and drunk weakness etc. etc. Don't feel obliged though, if you have no time or motivation to do this, I (and others) just have to find out the hard way: by trial and error ;) Bye bye. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 20:00, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry guys but I'm trying to quit this game as they did too many changes and I do not like them at all (I hate those changes). So I'm not playing anymore, maybe loging once a month to check stuff or talk, that is all, Bennie, the monsters modifiers I check them by luring other monster or using summons with area attacks of those elements, having alot HP and beeing a paladin helps to use area runes and survive, also summoning monsters under water to see if they are immune to drown or summoning monsters that can use drown or drunkenness, or summoning monsters to see if they are immune to those. Using area runes or making them walk over traps that always cause the same damage (to calculate physical damage), even thought the monsters use armors and change the damage every time, you can get an average of many monsters hits and figure out if they are 5% 10% 15% strong to melee, also can be done with melee attacks but is kinda tricky as you would need very good skills to just pass the shielding of the monsters (also using explosion runes worked well). Hmmm hope that helps you to know how I did it, please write that guide for me, I don't want to spend my time in this game as I don't like it anymore, update that made addons easy to get killed the fun for me.
Kwigon the sharpshooter 23:46, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

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