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Question answered on my talk page.

I didn't summon on test server, I summoned on real Tibia... What was it? 7.4?

Rafa Mcallan

Hey Dm

April 21, 2006

About those keys you were wondering about. 39** series keys were for guild halls, so most likely the large majorty of them were for the merc tower, or Red rose guild hall. But there used to be a flat + some odd buildings on fibula that made use of the same series of keys. The alpha keys were for areas when the game was in alpha, and were not flat keys. I don't have any concreate numbers on flat keys themselves but I know they were also in the 00** series of keys, 0013 was lady rebel's house key from when she owned a flat (to the best of her memory)


Hi there

About Shop page. I have no idea where the prices at Nah'Bob you took from. Some items are terrible mistake eg Cape, Doublet, Jacket, Golden Armor, Halberd - 9k/30k ?!


When i made the page that information was correct. yea i did make a mistake too, :P. The code for that page is very big and easy to mess up, soon i will update it, thanks. If anything else is incorrect you can edit it yourself or tell me the correct information to edit, since the code is rather confusing. I am still gathering all the info i can. thanks for pointing that out --DM

Furniture and other stuff

DM, in response to your idea (which was a good one!), I made a prototype of what I think you were talking about. Check it out at TibiaWiki:Playground/Containers. Since most of these items are not dropped by any creature (or we don't care if they are dropped by them), it has the list of sellers. I think this will help to reduce the clutter and ugly long lists on some of the npc pages. I also made one that has a buy AND sell list (TibiaWiki:Playground/BuySell List), which could be used for stuff you can sell back to npcs (not just buy from them).

Anyway, check it out and please make any suggestions... or if you have some other ideas.

 Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 10:52, 12 January 2006 (CST)

I like your idea about teh buy sell list, but i'd like it more if it ONLY showed the BEST places to sell things, since, that's what everyone wants, right?

Cameri 22:21, 13 February 2006 (CST)

Well, it's true that the best places to buy/sell stuff is more desireable, but especially for free account players it is important to have all options. Not really an issue for furniture, but for everything else. Also, if you have the option to buy something for 10gp more in your hometown, or pay 150gp to travel and buy it, I would just stay where I was, instead of spending more money on the travelling.

I also like the lists. I'm sure that there are some problems that will come up once we start implementing them (especially for those furniture npcs, their lists are so long), but I'm sure that there is a good solution to this.

 Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 07:26, 14 February 2006 (CST)

Moving pages

I know you know this, but you must have just forgot when you updated the Templar Scytheblade page. If a page is misspelled, the page should be moved instead of copying and pasting the content in the new page. It automatically creates the redirect for you, and the page history is moved with the content (it also moves the talk page if it exists). It's just a better way to do it.

 Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 08:02, 13 February 2006 (CST)

Sorry i don't redirect things like that much and must have forgotten that or something. All my sources show its spelled 'scytheblade' but others thought it was spelled 'schyte,' i am just curious as to how they got that. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 10:02, 13 February 2006 (CST)

It was probably just a mistake when the page was created. There are still quite a few mistakes in the wiki. I come across them almost every day, and fix them when I can. Please don't think I am trying to discourage you from making updates!

 Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 13:47, 13 February 2006 (CST)


I haven't been to this site in ages, but I came back to check up on it. I've left a message for everybody on my userpage. Try to spread the message to anyone who's still active. — Rune Farmer 03:41, 19 February 2006 (CST)

TibiaWiki en Español

I finally decided to start a Wiki for Tibia in spanish. I've gathered some people to help and I've been in touch with the staff of

I have almost everything set (in the technical part). Now I need resources of information. Of course that this Wiki will be the first resource for many aspects, as the info itself as the metainfo of the Wiki (templates and such).

So, the question for you, as admin here, is:

Do you think that would be possible to take some of the information containted in this Wiki to used in the new Wiki in spanish?

We'll make a lot of translations from the english articles and I'd be great if we could take some of the Templates and (of course) the images aswell.

I already left a message to Erig, to ask him for permission.

Best Regards, Adrián Galindo. México City MSN:

--Kaio 04:07, 27 February 2006 (CST)


Well they have served their purpose so they no longer are needed. On a sidenote i do have a backup of all old images prior to the last summer update, somewhere. --DM

Thank you, Edwin de waterman  => Talk <=  Profile ·_· Contribs <·> 16:36, 13 May 2006 (CDT) <·>

Forgot you was an admin also, so don't mind about the IFD part ;) --Edwin de waterman 01:56, 14 May 2006 (CDT)


There is a list of technomancers but comment to this list forbid to put visible comments. How to attach comments then? I created additional bacic page with comments but Im not sure how it should looks. Any idea?

Editing of other People's Profile

Well I've received your message on the Editing others' profile thing. I'm sorry about that. I've only done that to allow my friend Rosie & Lethal'Hunter to understand and make use of the template efficiently.

~Lysira da'vamp~

Isle of the Mists

There are 2 pages - Isle of Mists and Island of the Mists. According to maps, correct name is "Isle of the Mists". All information are on "Island~" so maybe it's possible to move/redirect "Island~" to "Isle~"? I'm not experienced enough with moving/redirecting pages :/

Rook Depot

i added some info to the Rook Depot page and you removed it. i want to know why. maybe i wasn't following the site's rules. if i did, I'm sorry. but i would like to know what i did wrong. if you look at tibia's main page, you'll see them mention it.

got it. sorry for the inconvenience..

@ vandalism on Lucera article

I dunno if you have noticed it already, but the Lucera page is being the target of continued vandalism, by more than one editor

I feel that someting should be done about it.. perhaps locking the page against edits, or removing the reference to the guild which might be the cause of the erraneous edits

hope you can do something about it. bear hugs,

Nagatho Goldenflag (talk | contribs) 06:53, 21 December 2006 (PST)

GH templates

Thanks DM for your response about my suggestion for the guild hall template, I just didn't know it existed, thanks again. I'll be updating some of the guild hall pages.

 Ψ Genosonic Ψ   Ψ  My Contributions Ψ   Ψ  Talk Ψ  

Objects Page

Hey DM, just wrote these few words to ask you for your help to help us complete the Objects page :) We need images, maybe refinement on those category names, more items to be added, well, check for yourself. Thanks in advance!

 Ψ Genosonic Ψ   Ψ  My Contributions Ψ   Ψ  Talk Ψ  

What's the point of Depot (Object) and Mailbox (Object)? I don't think there's any moveable depot and mailboxes, I think it's useless to make double page about those objects...

-- † Pudd Knight †  Talk  Contribs  -- 17:29, 1 February 2007 (PST)

Hmm, you make a fair point. I think i will just compromise them in the template but under the name without (Object).
--DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 18:36, 17 April 2006 (CDT) 17:45, 1 February 2007 (PST)

about the pirates edit

The Lethal Lissy doesn't have 3 'L's (nor 'T')...
Ron the Ripper doesn't have 3 'R's .. nor do these names ahve any 3 leter repetitions

that's why I removed it
 Nagatho Goldenflag   Talk   Contributions   14 February 2007 - 01:01 

Strictly speaking, The Lethal Lissy does have 3 L's, and Ron the Ripper does have 3 R's, even if they are not the first letters of the words.

Aside from this, it's a pretty insignificant piece of information, and does not have any large bearing upon the game or players.

-- Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 11:59, 15 February 2007 (PST)

More about the shops

I noticed some blaring discrepencys in your shop page, (spike sword cant be bought in venore for 85) as well as a total lack of fibula loot (hatchets, bows, xbows) please contact me if you're interested in my opinions on how a shop/loot page should be organized

I agree, modifying every weapon page and creating a template would be 1) lots of work and 2) not as useful as an all in one location for seeing where loot sells. So i recomend the following arrangement:

ItemSellTownNPC BuyNPCTown
Plate Armor 400 Venore Name here 1000 Kazordoon Name here

And people who desire to buy or sell for less/more then the best bargin, can do the extra research required. Enumerate

Ok i see where you are going with this. It has previously been debated to make the Shop page exclusively the best bargains. This detracts from the nature of a wiki to include all information but we can make another page and so have one be the all encompassing pages and another be the best bargain page. I am quite busy in (RL) presently so perhaps you can go ahead and make such a page. You could either make a shop extension page or another page. Possbile names: Shop/Bargain, Shop/Best_Buy, Shop/Best_Price... and i am not really sure of a good independent page name.
In a week or two i will try to get back to correcting the shop page or this new one. If i do not start in a week or two you can give me a reminder. I mix my priorities :P --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 17:58, 21 February 2007 (PST)

I suggest Shop/Best Prices, since shops sell and/or buy, Best Buy doesn't really apply and Bargain is just like Best Buy. Here's my two cents. --

 Ψ Genosonic Ψ   Ψ  My Contributions Ψ   Ψ  Talk Ψ   19:06, 21 February 2007 (PST)

Hey DM, did you get my user request on MSN? I added you a few days ago but I haven't catched you online so far. I'm 2maver1ck. :p

-- Maverick the hunter 05:43, 8 March 2007 (PST)

I have not been on lately >busy< but just now added you.
--DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 14:57, 8 March 2007 (PST)

I'm sorry, I didn't knew I broke some rules, I won't do that again.

Transparent Background

Would you tell me how to make it transparent?

Quick Question DM

Hello there DM. I was wondering if I could ask for your help with something. I was just reading the Elvenbane Quest, and you said that you have been there twice on the talk page. After i read about the quest I scrolled back up to the top to see that the level requirement for the quest is zero. This worries me, that a rookie player may think the quest is easy and try to do it at a low level.

So having gone twice yourself, what would you recomend the level requirement (or level recomend) be?

Thank you for your time and concern,


Jake Command Wolf

I'll field this question.

The level requirement on the quests is the "hard requirement" for what level you can do a quest (usually determined by a Gate of Expertise). As for a "recommended level" for this particular quest... that is very subjective. If you can solo a Dragon in a small room, then you can probably do this quest without much of a problem.

-- Labra lege
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 07:17, 9 July 2007 (PDT)

Following up what Whitelaces said, the level requirement is just what is required, usually in the instance of a "gate of expertise" in which you cannot pass unless you are that level. Even if someone only reads the unspoiled section of a quest it names the creatures like Dragon and Elf Arcanist. A rookie player should know by the creatures if they can handle the quest, or read further in the guide if they have any question to their chances of survival. - The first time i did the quest i was level 16, i believe, and the only mage so i had to SD the Elf Arcanist. I knew what was there but only went because of the large team. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 19:36, 16 July 2007 (PDT)


I Added the hometowns again cause it said it was a stub and cause all hometowns weren't there


Goold old DM that always fill in the loot lists :)
 Art Featherpitch  - The mispseller -  Give me a sign of life  18:17, 20 July 2007 (PDT)

Problem report list

Thx for info. Bug reports filled, hope we will have them fixed soon. -- Nef @fandom (talk) 15:39, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

NPC Template with image

I have created template for NPCs in which you can write to show of not the image. Moreover, if it's impossible to upload image with needed name, you can write other name and upload image with new one. If you like that template, you can found it here Zaidejas 14:25, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

How about now? Now image is in top left corner. Zaidejas 15:29, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Lol @ ur exp for next lvl, i mean, 386 from lvl 29 to 30? lololololololol Druidy Dhim

A little Question

Hey man, How are you? I was viewing your contribuitions then I saw a comment that you talks about goshnar about his name. Can you please tell me what was his name before he became the Necromant king??? And where did you found this information?


Esgledi 00:38, 9 July 2008 (UTC)


WOT promotes modification in tibia.pic and speak about OT and have a page *_*

JV Chequer 01:00, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Xtibia don't promotes Cheats O.O, the users can post yours modifications on tibia.pic, but cheats like MC and BOT? We're totally against :O

New Patch

Post by Craban: What we have changed since the update due to your feedback:


Already online: - We took out the grim reapers from the tombs. - We removed the orc leaders from outside orc fortress. - We raised the lootrate of elemental soils in elemental spheres. - We slightly reduced hitpoints of slick and roaring water elementals. - Quara hydromancers do not summon water elementals anymore.

Online tomorrow: - We raised the lootrate of sea serpents. - We changed the spawns of earth elementals in the second bog cave.

JV Chequer 18:01, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Double SD Quest

Quote: "Greetings. Concerning your edit on the Double SD Quest: Have you done this quest recently, or you have a friend that has, and you know for certain that the reward is a six charge SD, or did you just assume this? Thank you. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 21:44, 29 July 2008 (UTC)"

Hi boy ;) I do this quest and I know it's 6 changes ;)

Klonus 08:23 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Problems with a Template

Hello Dm
I was visiting some spells pages and I noticed that the Spell template is without the Fierce Berserk spell, also it is out of order and with duplicated spells like eternal winter. I don't have any experience with templates, but I believe that you can correct this error or indicate someone that can.

Edit: I tried to modifie the original template, but I didn't finded the page to tests the templates, so I put the code im my User page. I beleieve it is nice, if you authorize I will modifie the template. Please, have a look when do you have time.


Esgledi 01:26, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

fixed -- Sixorish 02:12, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Edit: Sorry, didn't see the other comment you posted, I see only half of the list is sorted alphabetically, so I'm going through the list to correct that, I'll remove the duplicated one while at it. -- Sixorish 02:20, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
OK, it's done now, there's no official "place to test templates" people usually put it in a sub-userpage -- Sixorish 02:42, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry i did not get to your question in time, and thank you Sixorish for handling that. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 14:51, 6 August 2008 (UTC)


Dear DM, I am Bennie and glad I became member of you, the administrator team.
As can be read here you, as an admin of a supported fansite, could represent TibiaWiki during private test servers. It would be very kind if you private messaged Erig (our boss) explaining who you are and telling your email address. Even if you don't want to use this opportunity, you could still message Erig so he knows that.
You have time until Christmas 2008, but the sooner the better!
Thanks in advance,

^^  º Bennie º  ¤ Talk ¤  º Admins º  ^^ 21:29, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion when creating templates

Not sure how you create templates (with alot of {{'s), but it helps if you use an editor with highlighting. I myself use Notepad++, works like a charm and shows where brackets or curly braces start AND end. If you don't see it start/end, you are missing some. Certainly helps when I create templates that use alot of them :)

--Temahk (TalkContribs) 20:36, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I also forgot to say i wasnt done yet for the loot part, but didnt had time yet, i will continue tonight otherwise tomorrow.

new Firefoxversion

Heya DM, there is now Version 3 now for download :)


Sadonic 05:57, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. I have had it for some time, just have not changed the link on my page.
--DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 16:10, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Infobox quest

Do you want help with it? I can understand if you wanna play around with it for, say educational purpose, so I'm asking before I do anything.. -- Sixorish 07:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

You might want to see this, every page which gets null/edited will be added to the category -- Sixorish 07:58, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, I'm off to bed, if you get tired of it there's a (I believe to be) 'working' copy here. it does it differently than you're trying to achieve though: Yours finds the parameter "rookOrMain" and if it's not found it'll 'output' (to the parser, not visible) "Rookgaard", the #if parser checks if it exists, and you're giving no false so there will never be a "Mainland Quest". using #switch can compare strings and make actions based on what it is (which is more efficient in this case, I don't even think your method can work)
You can read about parser functions at Meta -- Sixorish 08:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

FYI: the non breaking space (&nb sp;) was causing the categories page names to mess up (check out the URL differences between: Category:Rookgaard_Quests (no revisions so it's a dead link) and Category:Rookgaard Quests, which was why your DPL was giving no results. I think that has to do with the recent preprocessor upgrade, but there's an easy workaround so it's no big deal. -- Sixorish 08:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I fixed the template, the page is working now. -- Sixorish 10:40, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

thx for the feedback. I didnt realise it worked because every time i went to the page it showed a page having a redirect thing instead of redirecting it. i'm pretty sure that was because I had gone to THAT page though, instead of clicking the link to the page. thx for the info and glad i could at least try to help :)

Serephen 10:50, 19 December 2008 (UTC)


When editing the sitenotice, please also edit the id. Otherwise, people who already clicked the "dismiss" button on the previous notice, will not see the new notice.
Just a FYI :)

Temahk 10:25, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder :) --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 13:37, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


Well, thanks for the help, dude.

You are right, I just had good intentions to edit Tenebra. I started to play there, and also I hate when people vandalizes any article. About the highest level, Spielbarg was the highest level in Tenebra when I edited the page. Fenix Elite was 2kk or so to get the same level of him. I'm making some minor edits on this wiki since 1 year ago, but I'm not but a begginer. Never had enough time to build a page.

Again, thanks for the help.

  º Cinder ₪ the Weapon Maniac º  ¤ Talk ¤  º Berylia º   14:10, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


Warning Icon Yellow
The user Blech (talkcontribsbot contribsblock logblock) has vandalized the page Amera. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary.

Neoki Akiama 14:56, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

EDIT: Nvm, he already got blocked by Sixorish.


The guy Bjuraan is vandalising pages, it's not fun wastin time or editing back so please block him :) Thanks //Coohie

Concerning the edit of Rayn Kaorry

He already made an account and he didn't understand how to edit his page, so I helped him a bit. Did I do something wrong? I mean I just edited his user page cause he didn't know how to use templates etc.

I haven't been around for so long so correct me if it was wrong :)

Kseni Of Chimera 21 February 2009

  • Oki thanks I'll keep it in mind. Btw I have a question about the images for the houses/guildhalls, is there any uploaded yet so I could see what you were thinking they should look like. Should the houses be empty or is it ok with items inside?

Kseni Of Chimera 22 February 2009

House images

Hmm, I followed the guide and uploaded a picture. I didn't edit out my char from it but I removed the name, hope that works. However when I changed the picture to jpg, it lost many of the colors and now looks dull. Fortune Wing 3 first. Can i upload it as another file type or should I stick to jpg? Kseni Of Chimera 22 February 2009

Although our policy might say .jpg is best this is not true, png would be way better (although has larger image size). ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 09:08, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry Im not used to uploading/putting catagories :) they are house images not guildhall ones. beejay 05:17, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

I should not have done it right away, considering you had only just put them up, as well i probably would have noticed it was a house not guildhall if i waited. I will make it right, unless you are about to. (Side note: Yalahar houses and guildhalls are too large and similar looking) --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 05:22, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

I agree they do look simular, Ill let you fix it as wiki is loading slowly for me at the moment. beejay 05:30, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


Hi, :) sorry Ive been rather busy lately, so Ill need to get back to you on this. I believe I have checked all npcs that buy and sell armors/weapons excluding Rashid, Djinns, HL and Kazordoon as well as Svargrond (I have a screenshot of what Robert trades but havent got around to checking it yet). As I have gone through the npcs that I have checked I have changed the npcs pages to selling/buying the cheapest equipment first..(like Hardek) The more I have done this the more I think I shouldnt have and that it should be in alphabetical order, if its agreed that it should be in alphabetical order I will change it back when I have a little more time. Not quite sure why I changed it like that to begin with.. beejay 12:36, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Gratz on what you doing to npc pages
Kwigon the sharpshooter 00:31, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

thank you. i just happen to have had the time lately and enjoy repetitive work. i am glad Beejay started Shops up again. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 06:32, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

Move Images

I saw you moving an image, since when is this possible? Or did you only move the image "page" and not the file itself (move = rename)? If you could really rename/move files like pages that would be cool! ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 19:13, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I actually moved the image and page. I think it is pretty new, came with the change to general "File" uploads. It is much easier than reuploading a picture and it turns the old page file into a redirect. This should make incorrectly named files a breeze to fix and keep upload history. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 03:57, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. This will definitely save some work. We should change some text somewhere, can't remember where. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 05:26, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Building Template

Mind if I add a side scroll box with other houses on the same street to the Building template?
Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile

18:13, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

that sounds like a great idea, it would help people get acquainted with other houses easier than streets pages, hopefully making them more useful. I was considering adding links to each page connecting next-door houses, but that sounds better. just be careful if you are going to use dpl, make sure it caches pages to prevent unnecessary calls.
--DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 18:23, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
If I may add in, we shouldn't use too much DPL, this info would be very static (Cip never adds new houses or streets to existing towns) so using a dynamic list would be worse than manual static data. I'm assuming you wanted to use DPL like with the hunt template, if this is not true, please forgive me. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 18:26, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
That's why I'm adding an edit link at the end of the list and importing an external page - making it easier to maintain. I'll be using dpl to simple list (if even necessary) house names to add to the lists made.
Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile

Done - see Mill Avenue for an example; however the rest of the streets' lists will need doing aswell
Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile

18:40, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

DPL can't be used, as it stands: the template calls on most of the building pages do not support DPL. -- Sixorish 18:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

As I quickly discovered - they all require that |list function don't they. No true loss, manually making the lists won't be too much of a struggle.
Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile

18:50, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Little help

User:Craggles/Transcripts and User:Craggles/Transcripts/Temple I've made a template that reacts to a specific height input by the user however I'd really like it to be automated. For that my height variable would have to be equal to the height of my div containing the text - is there anyway I can get wiki to read what the div height should be and turn it into a variable? Thanks
Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile
12:10, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

This is possible with a script, possibly integrated with MediaWiki:Common.js. Possibly rewriting it building the transcripts into a table you could put each line in a row and instead of the height parameter have rowcount, but this is probably not what you are looking for. Another thing to do it have alternate text colours (light/dark blue) as they appear talking to an NPC in-game. This would also be easier with a table setup, or scripting - which is very limited on wikimedia. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 16:22, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I've never coded using java script and I couldn't think of any wiki way of making the alternating colours. Also the row count would be a good idea but again I have no idea when it comes to java
Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile

16:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Managed to do the colour alternating but it's very very user-unfriendly.
Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile

18:42, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

i looked it over more and the only way i see to count the inner lines is with a script or some css - not very wiki compatible. I am assuming most people will not even add know to use it when adding transcripts and any who will use it can figure out to adjust the height, especially if it is clear on the template page. As well once you are ready start applying it on quest pages, etc. I can help if needed. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 21:43, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Wierd issue - for my alternating blues and purples I'm using nested replace functions one replaces the player: with a </ font /> the other with an end font. However This method makes the entire row italic for some reason and .dependant on which way I embed the replace function, removes the r from player and or the : aswell. Wierd. Any ideas? Also any ideas on how to change my switch function so instead of 3 = 3 images I can just automate it to infinity? Thanks for the help and ideas so far.
Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile

22:06, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I could not find any way to provide an infinite amount of cases, but loops are a possibilty. I think that the switch is fine as is since most transcripts are not that long or could be split between "hi"s and "bye"s. Also i am not sure if the bold and italics are even needed anymore with the colours, since their purpose was to make transcripts easier to read. Lastly equal replace arguments need to also be considered: lower- or uppercase for player; <br>, <br/>, or <br />. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 02:16, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Appease the Mighty Quest/Spoiler - that's the sort of syntax we'll have to use. The main struggle is the break lines. Every "player:" line needs a break line and the npc lines cannot have them. Also all links need to be removed else they look awful.
Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile

08:56, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

See Arito's Task Quest/Spoiler for the easiest way I can think of doing it
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09:14, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Also do you know if theres any sort of search string and count the number of terms (defined) in that string ?
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15:33, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I will keep looking for a good script that will do want you need and be vague enough to be used beyond this template, to go into MediaWiki:Common.js. I changed Appease the Mighty to be more like Arito's Task. Also i think the way you added NPCs names on Arito's Task should be the standard: <br/>[[NPC name]]<br/>{{Infobox Trancript| ...
I had changed <font color="#9999FF"> to <style="color:#9999FF"> because font is considered deprecated and replaced by style. Unless it did not work, in general fonts should be replaced by styles (which cover lots of parameters: color, size, font, etc). The second br inside replace should have the closing backslash to meet web standards.
--DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 15:58, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll be using that backslash on the br's and sadly style didn't work.
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16:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Oops, sad mistake on my part confused the span and style. I found a cool php script i can try modifying wit some js. I am busy rl, but will work on it intermittenly for a while. If someone else wants to try, go ahead. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 17:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I tried it with span aswell (which is what I thought you meant) but it didn't work either. Sorry to keep pestering you - but on User:Craggles I've made a template which can mock up a decent looking quest log. I'd like to make the text into wiki links without the wikilink format. Is it possible?
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11:50, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

My original idea was very complicated and then i realized this is not that complicated at all. I have the js ready but i am not quite sure how to best implement it with the template (User:Craggles/Transcripts/Temple is also not displaying player right...). I enjoy this kind of work when i have the time and i am not sleep deprived. Looking at the quest log. Also you can download the testserver client now, not on yet though. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 13:21, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I fixed the my template, hadn't reverted it back from trying to use span. What does your java script do at the moment? I agree - problem solving is fun; implmeneting templates into the wiki won't be.
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13:41, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

It is pretty basic: gets the total height of the div, the line-height (which is not there yet) and will return something that changes one of the div attributes like height. So if it calculates the div height is 200 and line-height will be set to 20 then do math in script and return height. I can change a value in the div, but problem is changing just the height in the switch, since it not an attribute.
Did some linking for the quest log. Not sure if i can put text over linked image and still use the link, thats why it is not aligned correctly.
--DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 15:57, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I do not think i can implement the script because it has to update the template height parameter but there is no way it can do that without being on the actual page - cannot happen in mediawiki. I think we will have to settle with the height parameter for now, sorry but i see no way to do it. I will keep looking at the quest log though.
--DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 02:40, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

house images test

Are you still planning on making house images on the test? I am, but it would be kinda stupid if we accidentally did the same. Besides, I haven't heard anything about the test yet from Erig, so I don't know if we are invited on it or not. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 13:58, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I am still planning on it. In response to my asking him Erig said he picked 5 admins who were active when he was asked for helpers. I think there were about 6 who were active so likely one of us will be there. If both than we can split the buildings. I am in southern islands right now so i can cover Liberty Bay, Port Hope, Ankrahmun, Darashia, maybe Yalahar, i can do more. Do you have specific ones you want to check? --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 15:58, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok, sweet I think the most active 5 are: Sixorish, Craggles, you, me and Hunter or Art. I think it is too optimistic to think we can make images over every building, I could maybe do one or 2 cities at the most. I would prefer Carlin, since it will be revamped. Maybe Svargrond and Edron as second options. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 16:19, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind helping out if needed
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16:26, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

We can update each other on test and here. I will at least first cover LB and PH, i will take most pics first then upload all later. Mostly i was thinking to get buildings with more than 1 floor first since they cannot usually be seen on normal servers - when they are owned. If there is more time then get other houses while they are empty. We should make an extra effort for the updated cities.
--DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 17:00, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Anyone is welcome to help, of course. This is what I found: greenshot. It's a little program which, if you set the preferences correct, makes a screenshot and automatically saves it to a file. With this I can just walk around and press ctrl + print like mad, and sort the images out later. Of course there are other programs doing the same thing, it's just time consuming to paste your screenshot every time in paint, save it before you can take the next one. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 19:40, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Will we be whitespacing all the grounds away from the walls - are we giffing different floors together?
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19:48, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I've given myself too many "jobs" than I have time for. But I don't mind helping out a little and I have some free time right now, so Ill start with a few houses up for auction in port hope. :) beejay 21:51, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I think showing a bit beyond the house is fine, it does not need to be clean cut against the side of the house (see Category:House_Images). I prefer seeing each house floor on its own than animated in one image. My personal rule is not to animate if there is more detail to be seen and the images are not naturally moving, like NPCs images are walking. Thanks for the help Beejay. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 01:29, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Most the houses were at the edge of my screen anyway, but I find it looks better than if I try to leave 1 sqm around the house. beejay 14:51, 17 June 2009 (UTC)


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