That is not true. The highest lvl master sorcerer is Taifun Devilry, lvl 245. Cachero is lvl 240 now.

All I did was revert the page back to the way it was before it got vandalised - please edit it if you think necessary :)



Just wanted to make sure you saw my note:

TibiaWiki talk:Tip/Week 35, 2006#Tips

-- WhitelacesTalk † χρισtoς αnεσtη, αληθως αnεσtη -- 08:15, 9 August 2006 (PDT)

Template 'stealing'

you can't really 'steal' my template, as I made it for the public... :D

Ereglam 08:56, 29 August 2006 (PDT)

When and which template did i say i stole ? :S

you say so on your User-page... But, as I said, as it's for the public to use, so you can't steal it... ;-)

Ereglam 13:09, 29 August 2006 (PDT)

You may also recognize this template as being "stolen" from my userpage, which was a "stolen and altered" version of the one on Rune Farmer's user page, which was "stolen and altered" from the character information pages.

Basically, this layout for users has been around the block  :)

-- WhitelacesTalk † χρισtoς αnεσtη, αληθως αnεσtη -- 13:28, 29 August 2006 (PDT)

I can't even remember whose user-page I copied and extended... (it was some belgian player, as the flag's red field blended into the red header bar)

As long as it is acceptable to the community, I'll be content... ;-) Ereglam 13:39, 29 August 2006 (PDT)

I didn't literally mean stolen - It's just the way I word things. My erm "aquired" sense of humour if you will. Sounds better than "My character XD enjoy, I spent 30 seconds on it." I just enjoy jazzing things up with awkward wording.

Gratz Craggy for repairing outfits ^.-
-- Kaito Yamaro    ~~ Talk ~~ site ~~ My Guild ~~ Каито Ямаро оф Пацера, 08:37, 14 September 2006 (PDT) 10:59, 16 October 2006 (PDT)

Thank you :)

hey man you're apparently the one who's editing the libraries, so.. the Library page says that that the Royal Archives are complete, while they are not.. also, Rookgaard Academy sounds complete to my eyes

needing anything, say it on my user page

bear hugs, Nagatho Goldenflag5 November 2006

Thanx for that :) At a glance I thought it said rookgaard rather than royal, honest mistake .. right?


Gonna take advantage of the oportunity and ask if the changes I've been doing to the library pages are helpful or not.. been editing them to make them more organised, but I'm not sure if it's working or not :P

Nagatho Goldenflag

Well i was shocked to see how much better your versions looked compared to mine, especially when you only moved and tweaked my coding here and there. Yes I think you're doing a marvelous job :)


I'm abusing you
been thinking of transfering the djinn fortresses library pages to the fortresses pages themselves (e.g from Ashta'daramai Library to Ashta'daramai)
of course, that would also mean making the green djinn library bookcase-by-bookcase, which can be boring
you choose, if you like it the way it is, it's okay, we'll just have to ad links from the fortresses pages to their libraries
luv ya :*

Another thing:about thing next to the TOC... I thought about a special template for library pages (which could contain links to every library article. there are many of these on wikipedia, you might have seen one already)
hope you find it a good idea

You mean like a category thingy. And also, the green djinn and blue djinn things i'd happily to. But we have a problem. What would the return pages on the books say? Atm they can only display one page return link or else display a messed up link. We also have this problem with some nargor and liberty bay libraries as some havbe the same books. Craggles

Me again :P

well, then maybe a single page for both djinn libraries (including bookcase references for both djinn colors) AND links from their fortresses pages to the library one. pretty much like a Djinn Library page.. sounds possible

PS: we gotta add links from Ankrahmun' and Darama to each of the fortresses, cuz most people can't spell them! :P... well, guess I'll do these references myself

Nagatho Goldenflag (talk | contribs) D M Y

That could work, but remmeber the graphics of the books in each djinn tower are different, so we'll have to see what whitelaces says about the predicament. Craggles
Also What do you think of User:Craggles/Books as that template thingy to go next to the __TOC__ thingy? Craggles

sounds like a beggining scratch... I'm logging otu now, but when I come back I'll try to develop a table inside of that thing you build , like, town libraries at one side, wilderness at the other side, and link to single books down... anyway, the idea sounds roxy

me logging out for now bye

Nagatho Goldenflag (talk | contribs) 6 Nov 2006

I'll have to think about it a little bit. I still think the best solution will be to have two different book pages when the graphics are different.

The appearance of an article cannot change based upon the referring page, and I don't think it would be a good idea to clutter the book page with multiple graphics.

Since they are truly two different books in-game... I think they can adequately be placed on two different article pages in the wiki.

I'll brainstorm a little bit tonight to see if I can come up with anything better.

~ ~ ~ ~

On a side note, Nagatho, you should change part of your signature:


should be:


This will make sure that the date stays the same... leaving it the way you have it now will always have "today's date"... no matter what day it is (e.g. it says "6 Nov 2006" today... tomorrow it will say "7 Nov 2006" instead, even though you wrote it today).

You might also consider using ~~~~ ... this will be replaced with your username and the current date/time. It can also be used for complex signatures (see TibiaWiki:Tip/Week 19, 2006).

-- WhitelacesTalk † χρισtoς αnεσtη, αληθως αnεσtη -- 13:36, 6 November 2006 (PST)

If we were to say make a new article for the alternate books - what we would name them? Liberty Bay:The Parrot and Me (book) , Nargor:The Parrot and Me (book), would that suffice?


ty withey on that :** :pp

and for the library thing.. I think there's no need to create another series of book pages.. but what I think that is necessary is to add reference to all of them in the respective library page (e.g: only one djinn book, but links to it at both djinn library pages)

anyhow, I'm kinda lacking creativity... but if there really is no other way.. well THEN we'll have to create the other book pages I guess (you'll have my help on that)

gogo finally a decent signature
Nagatho Goldenflag (talk | contribs) 6 Nov 2006

It's probably a bad idea to save time but why not just set the image as none? Also check my template thingy again Nagatho see how you like it now. Craggles

Craggles, help me out here... how do you make an html table text stay at the top of the cell?? you tell me, and I got a perfect template

Nagatho Goldenflag (talk | contribs) 6 Nov 2006

14:18, 6 November 2006 (PST)

Edit:I did it, okay... now just a few secs

Is it in your dustbin?

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

Now it is, sweet revenge, there we go uhuuhuhuhuh User:Nagatho Goldenflag/Dustbin feel my triceps babe, I rock

Nagatho Goldenflag (talk | contribs) 6 Nov 2006

14:33, 6 November 2006 (PST)
Hate to burst your bubble but theres nothing different there 

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

oh cmon it's my first one!! lol just noticed I had connection problems and it wasnt submitted

check it in a few secs

finally done User:Nagatho Goldenflag/Dustbin or Template:Library

really hope you like it.. in case you don't, I'll try something else

Nagatho Goldenflag (talk | contribs) 6 Nov 2006

15:14, 6 November 2006 (PST)
I love it :) However I gave my lil "flair" to yours User:Craggles/Books, cos I really wanted to have everything in the center and have those little stars. Tell me if you like it that way.

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

well, The middle thing really looks nice... but I'm not completely sure about the stars thing (they sound too IRC-like in my opinion) - we should ask whitelaces about that

also... I dunno if it'll work or not, but as i finally did my first one, guess I've always wanted to change some other templates (if whitelaces allows me of course!) cuz I really like that "wiki blue table" thing, and those grey ones sound boring (Template:Items, for example)

shall be back in like 5 hours from now... then I'll test the new templates and see if they look good... if they don't, it's okay, they remain the same

bear hugs to my fellow kids and easter bunnies

Nagatho Goldenflag (talk | contribs) 6 Nov 2006 06:50, 7 November 2006 (PST)
I got rid of the stars, you're right they do look cheesey. But more over I think we definatly should keep our library template how it is where it is. A grey and black dull one there would ruin it..

Exactly what I mean.. those grey ones are strange... I luv the standart blue wiki table (the one used in our template)

of course, if I was to change the other ones, I'ld firstly talk to Whitelaces, tell him my suggestion, and say that there will be no changes until it is approved

and btw ty for putting the template on the library pages, I just checked it

PS: guess I'm gonna stay a bit more heheh

Nagatho Goldenflag (talk | contribs) 6 Nov 2006 07:33, 7 November 2006 (PST)

hey again do you really think that the 2-lined heading for the template is ok? I dunno, it sounds a bit strange

well, you chose :P

Nagatho Goldenflag (talk | contribs) 6 Nov 2006 07:57, 7 November 2006 (PST)
two lined header to which template?

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

to both library and future items template

Well i only made it a two-line header because the book was prett big and it made the text seem smaller than it was. So I'd say it's a good idea dependant on the image

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

new item template

finally completed the new item template.. have a look at it at my Dustbin and tell me if you like it (I hope you do, it took some nice sweat to finish)

it's pretty similar to the library template.. but the links are centered (and not to the right/left as the library one)

PS: tell me if you like better the titlw box big or little (compare the item template on my dustbin and the library template) guess I like the bigger one

I posted alternate versions on your chat page, I honestly think it's a tad cluttered and imoo (in my own opinion) mine meet the wiki criteria.

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

P.s. I think the model ship looks better than the parchment AND I prefer the smaller tighter box.

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

you sure? cuz it's possible to change it to any percent size we want, OR use minimal border on each side

ah btw I guess I like your 2nd image (the one with pictures at each side) guess it's more organised that way.. think I'mm gonna keep your version of it

Nagatho Goldenflag (talk | contribs) 6 Nov 2006 11:05, 7 November 2006 (PST)

check this out:

User:Nagatho Goldenflag/Dustbin/Runes2

guess it's the best template I ever made

hope you like it hehe

Nagatho Goldenflag (talk | contribs) 15:08, 13 November 2006 (PST)
Freakin awesome :)

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

crag, if you want to know what pages to change links, check this Category page and see what links to each template (note: Ive also added the runes/spells template to that page ^^

I might be helping you out on that in a few mins

The new library-articles

I must say I LOVE your and User:Craggles work on the library articles. I went to the Royal Archives today and find them really nice looking. A great change from my first version.
I have always wanted to find a good way to show the books (title, content and type of book) in a easy and good looking way. I never did but I'm happy to say that you two really have!

Thanks for your effort in the TibiaWiki.

--Alreth ¦› Message me ¦› My contributions ¦› 13:38, 16 November 2006 (PST)

Thanx for your images :) Seriously It's a freakin nightmare going around all those places and numbering them. Also do you have any ideas on how we'll display books that spawn in different places without making new articles (I really think that'd be a wasted use of our time), for instance all the djinn tower books. They have the same content just different locations and different book graphics.

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

ah btw Cragg, great work on the Liberty Bay library, sounds perfect to my eyes

Nagatho Goldenflag (talk | contribs) 05:40, 18 November 2006 (PST)
Thanx very much - now for the djinns.

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

Regarding the Ferumbras page

Hi there. I've seen that you have erased the data I have added of the Ferumbras raid on Lunara last night. I was wondering what is your criteria to remove these kind of information seeing as it still says that Ferumbras was in Eternia but wasn't killed? Thanks in advance :)

-- Maverick the hunter 08:25, 26 November 2006 (PST)

Well it says prior to your luminera posts "And many sightings sinnce" that kind of includes luminera. Its a general idea that (for those sorts of bosses) we jsut put the first sighting and the first killing. As your post said the 25th (it being the 26th when i edited it) I knew that Fermubras was probably already gone and not dead (they only seem to last about 1 hour) :)

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

poh books

hiho there
I was recently checking the library pages that need to be done, and ended up at Plains of Havoc Library.

books there seem to be either title only, or lacking content

I know the book descriptions are yet to be organised, but they're still quite small notes
since you're kind of experienced on book matters I wanted to know if they are complete or not
btw tomorow I'll start doing Isle of the Kings Library organisation...

bear hugs

Nagatho Goldenflag (talk | contribs) 01:48, 18 December 2006 (PST)
I think that those books are actually complete; though I assume the poi update brang about some new reading material in that area, I personally am neither premium nor strong enough to find out. Also good luck with the rest of the books - I doubt i'll be on too much to help.

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

Outfits problem

Craggy please check and repair Outfits page like you did some time ago. Seems like after the update names has been changed again. Woman with vials and tiara is "mage", man with beard is "mage" too. The "summoners" are man with coat and vials and a lady with Ferumbras' Hat and wand.

-- Kaito Yamaro    ~~ Talk ~~ site ~~ My Guild ~~ Каито Ямаро оф Пацера, 08:37, 14 September 2006 (PDT) 14:01, 31 December 2006 (PST)

It's set up like that on wiki now. So far as I can see - I wish cip wouldn't try and confuse us so much. Our task is to logg the facts of tibia, not to try and correct their mistakes..

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

Oh wait now I see what you mean - like my 4 addons per page set up... I daren't mess it up unless you have some evidence?

p.s. my edits are all in the wiki history if you go back to where all the edits were mine they should be there.

p.p.s Revision as of 20:48, 13 October 2006 - round about then I started doing it. As I said if oyu have evidence we'll roll it back.

p.p.p.s I found the evidence on whitelaces user talk page ! I knew I was right :D

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

Yup. Thanks to Hiftu for noticing the change in the Tibia Client and posting the screenshots.

-- Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris.
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 12:21, 2 January 2007 (PST)

And that'll teach all of you to never ever doubt me...ever

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

Soft Boots

Hello, why did you change the regeneration of the hitpoints on the boots? Which tests made you believe that it's 1.5hp/second? I've done previous calculations and have seen that they gave me 5 hp / 10 seconds with me not having eaten any food before, so I'm pretty sure my regeneration speed is correct. However, before changing it back to 0.5, I decided to ask for your reasons and see if you're right.
-- Xellos φ Contributions φ Talk 16:04, 15 May 2007 (PDT)

Well i presumed you meant by increasing your hp by half that would be the same as multiplying by 1.5? Else it would mean your hp regeneration would be half...Right?

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

I'm sorry does it literally mean it gives you 2 mana extra per second and 1 hpevery 2 seconds extra? If so sorry and we'll revert it.

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

Yes, that's exactly what I meant. Sorry if I didn't express myself very well. :p Well, I'll change it back then. Thanks for your coorperation. =)
-- Xellos φ Contributions φ Talk 15:54, 16 May 2007 (PDT)

I'm sorry too - I'm just surprised cip designed the bots in that way. Usually items benefits are dervied from character skill and or vocation. These however are universal.. odd

6 Nov 2006 [Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]


Why did you remove Carrion Worm from convince creature list?
Skeleton Beholder Skeleton  Art Featherpitch  - The mispseller -  Spam me  Skeleton Beholder Skeleton 07:50, 3 June 2007 (PDT)

Pretty sure I read somewhere that it couldn't be summoned. Don't ask me to try and find the page - I circumnavigate this site 3 times a week. If you can convince carrions then please revert the edit.

[Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

Hey Craggles, first of all outstanding job editing the new monster list. Secondly, if you let me, I would suggest that you move the "Ice-Elemental page" to "Cryo-Elemental". Cryogen is the technical name for freezing, so the prefix Cryo would to be denote the frost condition. Just my 5 cents, though.

-- Maverick the hunter ω talk ω contribs 19:35, 12 June 2007 (PDT)

Thanx - I was trying to think of the greek and just couldn't. Do you by any chance know the ancient greek for slime, or poison?

[Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]


dude behemoths are giants and so are golems .... they can be in more than 1 category ... i did say that id rather you spoke to me first before going and undoing my work, its great that you are doing all the creatures and what ever, props to you for the work but its doenst make the the "admin" of creature pages
¿ DisÅstér Móntêiro ¤  Tãlk ¤ ¿
22:06, 12 June 2007 (PDT)

I'm sorry but I'm trying to be decisive about the categories these creatures fit into. Instead of saying beholders are necromancers and magical creatures I'm trying to go for them just being magical - haveing more than one category theyfit into simpley complicates matters. Also if you'd look at behemoths are infact bull-something hybrids, as are minotaurs. I have every right to undo your work so long as it's progressive - wiki is a freely editable community project, I thought your method was slopy and so I'm updating. Whitelaces is intending to add this directly to the creature info box and haveing creatures in two categories really over complicates matters. I'm sorry if you disagree but I believe the groups I've made now are the best ways to describe all tibian creatures - currently

[Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

sorry i was a little harsh (happens when your in a bad mood and editing at 3 am :-/), but keep in mind that my edits were progressive, and i still feel a behemoth is first and formost a giant creature and would fit better into this category
¿ DisÅstér Móntêiro ¤  Tãlk ¤ ¿
06:23, 13 June 2007 (PDT)

I've had moments like that too - I think...Anywways, if you truely care that behemoths should be in the giant creature section then I'll put it there. Unless you want to (just remember you'd have to change a few things around like categories and alike). Once we get all the creatures were we all agree only should we start updating the creature pages. I know your edits were progressive, I've merely advanced on them, thats what progression is all about, building ontop off. Sure sometimes things have to be knocked down but for only for a brand new building. If you do want to help please look over how I've set up the categories, the groups and the sub-groups (thats the main issue at the moment because then we can simpley take the info there and put it into templates and alike) and see if you can see anywhere that needs to be built up.

[Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

as far as i can tell i initially updated every page template or otherwise to reflect the creation of giants page. Please tell me what i missed?
¿ DisÅstér Móntêiro ¤  Tãlk ¤ ¿
07:57, 13 June 2007 (PDT)

Hidden Creatures


Hydra and Serpent Spawn disappeared from the monster lists :(
Skeleton Beholder Skeleton  Art Featherpitch  - The mispseller -  Spam me  Skeleton Beholder Skeleton 07:07, 13 June 2007 (PDT)

They're categorized under snakes - they're bred from a serpent god so it's the best choice to settle the arguement

[Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

I wouldn't start editing the creature pages directly yet - whitelaces is working on modifying the creatue infobox so we'll end up adding giants creature tpyes and other such things directly to the template. See The Old Widow should give you an idea of whats to come

[Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

never mind ... i see it now :p very nice
¿ DisÅstér Móntêiro ¤  Tãlk ¤ ¿
09:53, 13 June 2007 (PDT)

Raid Creatures Category

What do you think about that idea?
Skeleton Beholder Skeleton  Art Featherpitch  - The mispseller -  Spam me  Skeleton Beholder Skeleton 10:25, 13 June 2007 (PDT)

Surely thats the same as saying a boss just split off into to groups. Think about demodras - his arrival is jsut an unannounced raid. I'm trying to wriggle my way of work here <grins>. Besides we already have a special section in a creature info box for boss monsters see The Old Widow. I respect where you're coming from wit this - but we don't really need to seperate the groups for the skae of seperating the groups, catch my drift? However if you feel like just rearranging the Bosses page into two groups - raid and non-raid bosses, thats fine by me. It wouldn't affect much at all infact.

[Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

I didn't talk about bosses... I was thinking about Grynch Clan Goblins, Undead Minions, Hackers, Primitives and Tibia Bugs.

Besides, have a look at this page about even-toed ungulates... I think we could put pigs, deer and sheep into this category.
Skeleton Beholder Skeleton  Art Featherpitch  - The mispseller -  Spam me  Skeleton Beholder Skeleton 10:40, 13 June 2007 (PDT)

But ferumbras, morgorath and orshabaal are raid monsters - so how about 10th anniversary raid monsters? I honestly hate them being appart of the creatures section. We'll never see them again and they're mostly just jokes. As for the even-toe ungulate thing. Well - I find it funny that there's such a class as vague as that. The question is where would we put the seals?

[Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

i think that all the 10th an creatures need to be removed from creature pages, templates and loot lists, as none of them are likely to re apear and having there info up there is misleading and just unnecessary clutter
¿ DisÅstér Móntêiro ¤  Tãlk ¤ ¿
19:55, 13 June 2007 (PDT)

Clutter or not they're still a major part of tibian history...and they do have on their pages - no longer in game. Thats why they were given a seperate article under misc.

[Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

What disaster is saying, is that we should remove their names from the "droppedby" section of items pages... since you will probably never be able to loot those items from these creatures (until maybe the 20th anniversary). He does not mean we should delete the pages, or clear their loot lists or anything like that.

I'm pretty indifferent about it. I don't think it hurts anything to leave them listed on the items pages (the creature page indicates that they are no longer in-game), and I don't think it would hurt anything to remove them (if necessary, you can check the "what links here" for the item). Whatever you guys decide is fine. Maybe you could move that to the history page for the item.

-- Feles mala!
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 05:18, 14 June 2007 (PDT)

Quite frankly I give a damn about the items pages until it becomes my new priority project - I pray I never have to deal with it again. Until such a day I'll keep my focus on the creatures.

[Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

what whitelace is saying is pretty much what i was trying to, a while back (not sure about now) some of the raid creatures were mixed in wiht the others (hacker was in orcs, primative was in humans) and that i feel was misleading and kinda incorrect, allso i think i will go ahead and take the 10th an creatures off the loot pages
¿ DisÅstér Móntêiro ¤  Tãlk ¤ ¿
07:18, 14 June 2007 (PDT)

Okie dokie :D And yeah I took the Anniversary monsters off thanx to what art said (read up)

[Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

Craggles, what did you do to the trolls? I can't find them :(

Shit - humanoid. I remember now I was tempted to put them in hybrid... Must have totally forgotten. Coooock

[Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile]

Uploading pictures


I'm quite new here and I saw you were very active with editing the library, I have made some edits myself(I hope I did it right). However even after reading what I think is all the guides I still have several questions. For example I'm unsure about how to upload a picture of a NPC. Is there any way I could contact you that is easier than "user talk" (Since I'm not 100% sure this will work). Or is there any more detailed guide about how to add pictures from the game?

Thanks in advance,

Kseni Of Chimera 14:31, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

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