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Whoa there, Dille, I know it may be frustrating to have people change your fixes so frequently, but that only means we need to educate people more. Getting upset won't help. Most people don't watch the recent changes, and won't see the comments you post as you make edits, so it looks like we need to do something more in this case.
Try this:
Add a hidden comment in the page source... that way, when someone edits the page, they will see your comment:
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| name = Wyvern
| hp = ?
| exp = 520 | This is the correct exp because blah blah blah. If you want to prove me wrong, post a message on the talk page.
| summon = --
| convince = --
...
Notice the pipe | before the comment.... this will effectively hide it on the page, and it will only be visible when someone edits the page... any other user will not see it.
-- Whitelaces † Talk † χρισtoς αnεσtη, αληθως αnεσtη -- 05:50, 8 December 2006 (PST)
Thanks and what about the pages that loas SLOW ;/ because the update again?
Kind Regards, Dille 05:58, 8 December 2006 (PST)
Yeah, you may have noticed that there are alot more wiki edits as we get near to the update, and just like last time, that will slow down the wiki. Especially if there is a public test server, or right after the update occurs... then there will be a large influx of traffic and edits.
-- Whitelaces † Talk † χρισtoς αnεσtη, αληθως αnεσtη -- 06:08, 8 December 2006 (PST)
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from my experiance the music notes did not do any damamge, as well as the wave attack, only caused repeating poison dammage maybe this should be changed? -Enumerate
enumerate, I was about to point that out when I saw your comment
but on the music notes, no 'poof' is shown (at least not at the time it was taken).. I've never killed one myself, so I don't know if one 'being hit' graphic is ever shown
another thing is.. perhaps just like some rotworms' hits, this is an attack that does no damage regardless of equipment/skills.. which means, it could surely be a decorative attack
hope an editor can find that out for us
- Nagatho Goldenflag (talk | contribs) 01:20, 18 December 2006 (PST)
I think the musical wave and the drunken wave are the same and they dont do damage the wyver just makes a hiper sonic attack that makes you drunk.
Are you sure that they don't retarget??? I'm not sure but I think they retarget...
You are right. They do retarget for sure.
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- Chaosu ʘ Talk ʘ Patience is virtue. ✓ ✔ ♠ 10:16, 27 December 2006 (PST)
crown armor as loot?[]
can u post a ss or maybe a movie of that i believe it's not true that so weak monsters drop so good armor...
Kind Regards, Dille 13:58, 29 December 2006 (PST)
Dragon[]
Shouldn't a wyvern be under the same category as a Dragon? They look alike and also in many other franchises Wyverns and Dragons are in the same category. Muzgrob
Some scholars consider the Wyvern as a distant cousin of the dragons. This is far from truth though...
http://www.tibia.com/library/?subtopic=creatures&race=wyvern
-- Quanto sono infedeli, in realta, gli uomini italiani?
-- Whitelaces † Talk † -- 11:50, 15 January 2007 (PST)
Oh ok, I didn't read that,it looked like a Dragon and I was just going by other franchises. Muzgrob 20:17, 15 January 2007 (PST)
From wikipedia about Wyvern:
A wyvern (or wivern) is a winged reptilian legendary creature often found in medieval heraldry. Its usual blazon is statant (standing). The wyvern is a type of dragon with two legs and two wings. [1] The rest of its appearance can vary, such as appearing with a tail spade or with a serpent-like tail.
From wikipedia about Dragons:
The dragon is a mythical creature typically depicted as a large and powerful serpent or other reptile with magical or spiritual qualities.
I would say put Wyvern under the Dragons category, or move all dragons to the reptile category..
Ace Shadowfist 03:09, 16 January 2007 (PST)
--- Other sources may consider the wyvern as a relative of the dragon, but tibia.com speicifically stated that they're not.
There are many creatures in Tibia that are very different from all other mythical and historical references. Since this wiki explicitly contains information pertaining to the MMORPG Tibia, and not to any other history, fable, or mythology, the contents and organization of this wiki should directly reflect the content and organization set forth by CipSoft for the game Tibia.
If CIPSoft had been silent on this topic, we could deduce to the best of our abilities how this creature should be organized, but since they have been very clear on this particular item, the wiki should absolutely reflect their assertion.
According to CIPSoft, and in the game of Tibia... Wyverns are not dragons.
Concerning Dragons, Dragon Lords, etc. being reptiles... First and foremost.... they belong to the category "Dragons." If a category "Reptiles" is created, dragons may also be added to that list, but it would not be their primary grouping.
-- in puris naturalibus
-- Whitelaces † Talk † -- 06:07, 16 January 2007 (PST)
I think wyverns are dragons, they drop Dragon ham. Also i see the strategy are maybe wrong "Mages can kill them relatively easily around level 15" I dont think so also they say run and shoot hmm or bolts but all wyvers exept the ones in PoH are in small spaces with no place to run. Can some one make more clear the strategy.
- Kwigon the sharpshooter Talk -February-3-2007.
A friend of mine made a proposal about baby dragons, and suggested stats/loot similar to the ones of a wyvern. Also, in games I have played they are classed as dragons. They way they attack and behave is much alike a dragon, and the loot is quite similar (with the exception of the bangle). I think in this case the Tibian library should be disregarded since it sounds more like CIP is trying to add more of a RPG/story aspect to them than there truly is. This can be seen in the spell section and such. For those of you familiar with biology, think of the classification system, though they may be different from dragons in shape, and may be partly something else, they are much more related to the kindgdom of dragons than reptiles or whatever else. Also if you think about it... dragons could be considered reptiles as well, (scales, probably cold blooded, etc.) and same with plaguesmiths, juggernaughts, etc. So I think in this case it should be taken less literally (related to the real world) and more to in game behaviour.
-Zeratul
All of this is very true..... but there is one inescapable fact..... according to CIP, Wyverns are explicitly not dragons.
If CIP had not specifically said that wyverns are not dragons then they would certainly be listed as dragons here, ubt they have been very clear.... wyverns are not dragons.
http://www.tibia.com/library/?subtopic=creatures&race=wyvern
-- Non curo. Si metrum non habet, non est poema.
-- Whitelaces † Talk † -- 06:13, 5 February 2007 (PST)
And I think I mentioned that in this case, I believe it's CIP just trying to add more to something than there really is. I mean, they said serpent spawns aren't immune to invisible, they say a bunch of horrible spells and runes are "super powerful and amazing". I believe wiki is more literal than that, and goes more with practical uses and definitions of things than the Tibia homepage, its library and genesis. This is why I say they are more dragon than anything else. In this case I believe what the Tibian library says should be overlooked, as it has been in other cases.
-Zeratul
Very well argued, but in all of the other cases you speak of, something in-game has contradicted the official tibia website. In all conflicting information, what is observed in-game is always given precedence. This is not the case with wyverns. There is nothing in-game that contradicts the tibia library page for them... the tibia library page only gives us more information on their background.
Once again, if the game was in conflict with the website, or the website was silent on this topic, then I agree that they would clearly belong in the dragons category. Since the website is very clear, and I have not found anything in-game that conflicts with it, wyverns just can't be classified as dragons. If we place wyverns in the dragons category, then we would make the wiki incorrect according to all official information that is available.
-- C'est la fin des hericots
-- Whitelaces † Talk † -- 06:26, 6 February 2007 (PST)
I agree with both of you, however if they can't be classified as dragons, then what can they be classified as? Lizards? That wouldn't really make sense because all lizards can be found in Chor, and there aren't any wyverns in Chor...
Deadflejm 22:47, 1 June 2007 (PDT)
>Re-Edited<
I highly suspect CIP had the wyvern description just so it would conflict with Tibiawiki categorising. The proper fitting category is reptiles not lizards. Wyverns, dragons, lizards+ all fit this category, in a fantasy setting. As this has already been done there is no need for further conversation on the topic (i.e. Category:Reptiles] ).
--DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 15:57, 2 June 2007 (PDT)
Wyverns are reptiles with wings. They've poisonous behavior and some have a dense scale for defense. They're not too big compared to a dragon. The fact maybe ppl confused about reptiles and lizards it's because lizards are reptiles too =P
Wyverns are not dragons, this was already discussed long time ago... not only on tibia but on any other place they would appear. And by the way, yes, there are Wyverns on chor. (But this does not matter at all)
Yeah, I spent a few hours there the other day, and I saw the 3x wyvern spawn. And I suppose if it's been discussed prior, there's no use in discussing it now. It's such a confusing topic. :p
Deadflejm 00:26, 14 June 2007 (PDT)
-- † Pudd Knight † Talk Contribs -- 16:29, 2 June 2007 (PDT)
If wyvs are reptiles with wings so are dragons. I think on the fact they drop dragon ham alone is reason nuf to be on dragon category, thats clearly where CIP has them similar looks PLUS dragon ham. As far as tibia goes they sure as HECK dont belong with the lizards -Signed Rathgard
Dragons are reptiles. The difference is, they have 6 limbs instead of 4: Forelegs, hind legs and wings. And they "breathe" fire, which could have a scientific explanation and tell us why so many of them live in caves (grounded Platinum + Hydrogen From decomp. food + Oxygen in the air = fire). So dragons whould be part of the reptilians. -Vhazhiphor
Wyverns are Dragonkin[]
Wyverns are not dragons, but are dragon kin, same as griffins and drakes. They are not lizards and it makes no sense putting then in this catagory, in fact in most dictonarys, dragons and wyverns are all called reptiles, this is most likly why wyverns a confused for lizards.
And what I mean by Dragonkin is just what it sounds like wyverns, somewhere in thier linage are related to dragons, while they dont have legs that we can see you must remeber. unlike dragons of tibia wyverns are always in flight, they may indeed have legs but they may be tucked under there bodies while in flight.
Regards,
Jake Command Wolf
The Wolf Paladin 
I like where you are headed with this, but according to the official Tibia.com creature library: "Some scholars consider the Wyvern as a distant cousin of the dragons. This is far from truth though. The Wyvern we know nowadays are the result of constant breeding of some significantly smaller, only mildly poisonous flying lizards."
This would all be easier if CIP had used a more widely-known description of the "Wyvern", but they have chosen to explicitly say that wyverns are not directly related to Dragons. CIP has also chosen to explicitly state that wyverns are, in fact, specifically bred flying lizards.
-- Te audire no possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure.
-- Whitelaces † Talk † -- 05:58, 12 September 2007 (PDT)
New Strategy for Mages required[]
Lizards are supposed to be weak to fire, and the wyvern is NOT (I tested it today with my Elder Druid lvl 30, mlvl 31), so this might be another hint that wyverns are not that much related to lizards.
Another point: Today, I found that I could best kill the wyvern with Death Strike (exori mort) and Necrotic Rod. A GFB had almost no effect on the wyvern, and Cip already stated that Wyverns are immune to Earth and strong against Ice and Energy, so I didnt try these elements...
Therefore, I strongly recommend that the Strategy Section for Mages should be altered accordingly - using HMMs and other Energy weapons / runes doesn't make much sense anymore after the Winter Update.
User:Barathorn Jan. 5, 2008
Move Wyvern article to Reptile Misc catagory[]
I belive now that we have the Misc. catagory that we should move the Wyvern page to there since that catagory makes more sense then the Lizard catagory.
Regards,
Jake Command Wolf
The Wolf Paladin
Improved loot.[]
I believe wyverns have recently had thier loot improved.. they now drop more gp, small saphs more commonly and wyvern talismans are fairly common drops.. I did a little research into this, and although i dont know amounts and drop % it has improved alot..