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Missing Content

There are a few client versions missing (may not be complete either):

Tibia 5.01

Tibia 5.10

Tibia 7.26


(I don't have any info about what changed during these updates...)


Also either a seperate page for the client / instalelr files would be necessary, including basic info like file size and sha-1 hashes of the installers and the individual game files.

Or maybe a dedicated page for each generation of Tibia: 5 / 6 / 7. Which would then include all the update info and the more technical details about the files.

Also including direct download links for the old installers would be a good idea.--Telegraf 10:37, 14 May 2006 (CDT)

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I have made infos for Tibia 7.23, 7.27 , 7.35, 7.61. I can't find info for 5.XX and 7.26. There can be bugs in dates but i don't have time to check this and repair. AFAIR there should be versions for test server clients. I will look for more info.

Taliboy


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I made a seperate article for the tibia installers including all versions that are available from official CipSoft servers so far. I will add the other versions that are available at the various fansites, too.

About the question whether to have two seperate articles, this one that describes the updates in detail and the one I created which only deals with the installer and the game files (file size, download links) themself. I think it's a good idea to keep these things seperate as for now, because both articles aren't complete at the moment. But maybe merging both will be an option later.

Also I aggree that there should be a seperate article or sub-sections within these articles that deal with the test versions. But I think the articles about the final releases have priority.--Telegraf 14:03, 14 May 2006 (CDT)

Links outdated

All the links to the news archive of Tibia.com don't work anymore since the website update. Does anyone know if they were just deleted or if you can access them with another link? Either way, we should edit them.
-- Xellos φ Contributions φ Talk


They were all moved, but still exist. Yes, all news links need to be updated:

http://www.tibia.com/news/?subtopic=newsarchive&id=newsid

-- non compos mentis
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 10:21, 22 January 2007 (PST)


For anyone who updates links to news articles, please use the template OfficialNewsArchive. It will save us time if we ever need to update the link to the news archive in the future.

-- Stultus est sicut stultus facit
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 10:28, 22 January 2007 (PST)


I don't know how I could overlook the "News archive" thing but that's just typical me. However there are no news with lower ID than 437 (Christmas Update '06) which means all other news articles are lost? Or did I miss something again? This one is also the first news article to appear in the news archive/search.
-- Xellos φ Contributions φ Talk


Looks like you may be right. It appears that they have deleted ALL archived news articles before the christmas update from their website.

This is truly a great loss concerning knowledge of Tibia history. Is it maybe possible that they simply have not loaded the old articles into their new database structure?

-- Veni, vidi, territus sum, curcurri!
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 11:30, 22 January 2007 (PST)


In our news archive you can now find all news of the years 2005 and 2006. We will add more of the old news in the next days.
Tommorow I'll start adding the new news links as I got to go now.
-- Xellos φ Contributions φ Talk 15:51, 1 February 2007 (PST)


Excellent... it is a great relief to see them add those old news articles.

-- Magnus Frater te spectat
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 08:35, 2 February 2007 (PST)


Still, the links from 2000-2004 are broken, although they are now accessible on the official site.
Skeleton Beholder Skeleton  Art Featherpitch  - The mispseller -  Spam me  Skeleton Beholder Skeleton 11:29, 28 April 2007 (PDT)


Should be fixed now. I updated them to use the OfficialNewsArchive template.

-- Canis meus id comedit
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 05:50, 30 April 2007 (PDT)

Jan 22 2008

Patch! With today's server save a small patch has been launched. Besides fixing some NPC typos and small map bugs, we have also slightly adjusted the loot of a few monsters. Additionally, NPC Ustan is buying multiple wolf and bear paws from now on.


Add it ;P

New page look

I've created Updates/Test with a tentative of a new look for this page, it uses a table to make the update list more "clean". Perhaps some of you could make a template through it? What do you think? —Arkshi (Talk | contribs) 22:48, July 29, 2012 (UTC)


Mmm, I think it's not needed. It will probably make the page harder to edit for non-experienced users and I think the current updates page looks clean enough. -- Bennie (talk ~ fellows) 10:22, July 30, 2012 (UTC)


I like it although I think the columns need more padding. One problem though is that there will be no section editing using this. -- Sixorish (talk) 11:00, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

I could make an update infobox then we could make Arkshi's page the new better version of Updates using the GetValue or list feature in the infobox. It'd look it my Geography and Hunting infoboxes Ab'Dendriel. Ya?
Craggles ಠ_ಠ TalkContribs 12:54, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
An infobox template would make it easier to edit than the table I made. It could work like this: {{{client}}} which links to [[Updates/clientnumber]], {{{date}}} which could work with {{OfficialNewsArchive}}, {{type}} (summer update, spring patch etc) and {{{features}}}. —Arkshi (Talk | contribs) 14:57, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Bennie. One trouble with tables are that when one column have too much information it ends wasting a lof of space in an already strecht page. I added the update 7.5 to your example Updates/Test, please look at it and see how much blank space around the first columns. It doesnt look cleaner. » Sez6 ~ Talk « 15:31, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

This can be fixed by removing some of the update information on the main Updates page and simply provide a link to the update in question saying "[[Updates/7.5|Read More...]]".
Art Featherpitch (talk) 15:54, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
The only way that could work it's if you left only 2 or 3 lines (its possible to do this), just like in the 6.00 and 6.10 updates, because in your example there is a lot of empty space. But concerning what Bennie said, i have edited several times the updates page and the achievements one, and its alot easier to edit the updates page because you can edit single sections instead the full page. » Sez6 ~ Talk « 16:04, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
In regards to what Sez did to the table, we can simply limit the string length and replace the end with a " ... [[Read More]]",
Craggles ಠ_ಠ TalkContribs 16:09, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
I added another row of the 7.5 update im the Updates/Test with even less text, is not a bad idea to put only a brief summary because in the end there are dedicated articles for every update. I also changed the date format, because its uncovenient to use just numbers because 08/09 can be read as august 9th or september 8th depending the country you live in. » Sez6 ~ Talk « 16:13, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
There are actually not articles for every update - yet, anyway. We're missing articles for all updates before Summer 2006 (which, incidentally, was created only a few days ago). I'm working on it, though.
Art Featherpitch (talk) 16:38, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
Or we could use spoiler tags. —Arkshi (Talk | contribs) 16:16, July 30, 2012 (UTC)

Update numbering

So far Updates/Pre-6.0 is used to capture all update info that occurred before 6.0 the reason being because the earliest official records are for update 6.0 with nothing from an earlier time.
I want to know what people think about updates without numbers (discussed on my talk page but want to bring it here). For example, Darashia was added in a "map update" on 05 Jun 2002, in between updates 6.61 (20 Feb) and 6.97 (20 Aug). I decided that 7.0 (28 Aug) was the most appropriate update to associate it with since it is the largest update closest to when the city was actually created.
This mostly affects adding the implemented parameter to pages and noting the matter on the "chosen" update page. Any thoughts? -- DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 20:30, April 14, 2013 (UTC)


An alternative would be to make our own version number for it. Or maybe ask CIP if they have an official number for it. I don't have any further ideas, but I think it's better to keep it separated from 7.0 if it wasn't implemented in 7.0. -- Bennie (talk ~ fellows) 20:59, April 14, 2013 (UTC)


I prefer official things when they exist so i suppose Hunter of Dragoes should ask them when he gets the chance. If they do not have official versions then something like the prior version with a letter after it. In the Darashia case 6.61A. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 23:27, April 14, 2013 (UTC)

6.61a for darashia if cip don't respond?
Craggles ಠ_ಠ TalkContribs 17:42, April 17, 2013 (UTC)

I think Darashia was actually implemented on June 14, 2002. But again, they didn't tell the client version - which probably changed since they added sprites for items/objects and monsters.
I'll ask what the Community Managers know and are allowed to tell us about this.

Hunter of Dragoes (Talk · Contribs · Admins) - 18:00, April 17, 2013 (UTC)


I doubt they use the same version system for the game server codebase... so a server's version of 6.0 may not correspond to the client's version 6.0. They may even have a different version for different branches of their server code since most of it (should) work independently of the other branches. I don't think CipSoft will give us the data anyway. -- Sixorish (talk) 18:07, April 17, 2013 (UTC)


Even CipSoft doesn't have the client version for Darashia update.
I think we should assume it was still 6.61.

Hunter of Dragoes (Talk · Contribs · Admins) - 12:29, April 18, 2013 (UTC)


I am not opposed to attributing it to the previous numbered update but it does seem strange as they were several months apart. Doing it this way additional notes should be added on the update page indicating that some changes occurred at a later date but are also included.
And i did incorrectly say Darashia was added on 05-June when it was 14-June. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 00:28, April 19, 2013 (UTC)


What about "Between 6.61 and 6.97 (June 14, 2002)"? Is it too long?
We can make "Between 6.61 and 6.97" link to an update page - whose name is debatable - that lists all stuff included with that (and only that) "update" and explains there are no records of client version.

Hunter of Dragoes (Talk · Contribs · Admins) - 00:47, April 19, 2013 (UTC)


My main preference for a simple name is because they are easier to remember and easier to type so i would go with "Updates/Between 6.61 and 6.97" and it is also simpler to capture all info on one page if there are multiple unnumbered updates between numbered ones. Do you think an even shorter name would be worth it just for the parameter | implemented = 6.1-6.97? --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 02:10, April 19, 2013 (UTC)


Actually, my initial idea for the article name was just "Darashia Update" since it sounds more specific (and easy to remember), but "Between 6.61 and 6.97" sounds more technical, thus if fits better. We can even use it as a standard for exceptions like this one (if we ever find a similar case).
My suggestion was about the displayed text, it would be great if we could keep that and have "6.1-6.97" as the parameter entry.

Hunter of Dragoes (Talk · Contribs · Admins) - 02:22, April 19, 2013 (UTC)


Is this any different from the discussion we had about loot statistics changes without changes in version number? Talk:Administrator Team#Loot changes between version. We need a unique way to represent a specific game update, not just a client patch. -- Sixorish (talk) 04:12, April 19, 2013 (UTC)

Update Template

I mentioned this elsewhere but i think a template for each update page is long overdue. This would provide a cleaner look to the Updates page and a more consistent look to each individual page. I see that Bennie already made Template:Infobox Update and tested it here, User:Bennie/Update.
I think it looks good overall. Right now when transluding the page content from outside the template is being pulled so that would need to be addressed (include tags?). The main things i would like added to it are ways to remove other update templates whose function could be replaced in this one. These may or may not apply but just noting them all anyways: Template:Futureupdate, Template:Next Update, Template:Update Header, Template:Version Date, Template:Version.
Any reasons not to do this or further suggestions?
--DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 17:20, July 4, 2015 (UTC)


I wouldn't recommend replacing any of this functionality.

  1. Template:Futureupdate is used to display a message at the top of each page relevant to the update, not just the update page. The other infobox templates for the most part add this automatically if implemented=next update.
  2. Template:Version tells other templates what is the latest major game version.
  3. Template:Next Update tells other templates what is the next major game version.
  4. Template:Update Header is a navigation panel for update pages.
  5. Template:Version Date provides the text to display when these updates occur.

You could possibly replace the functionality of #5 but this would mean every item, NPC, page transcludes their respective update page, which is really overkill if we only want 1 thing from the update page.

You could, however, have the update infobox check the validity of the Template:Version Date, which would help us in maintaining that template. -- Sixorish (talk) 01:40, July 5, 2015 (UTC)


I definitely think #4 could be integrated by adding its parameters as "before" and "after". Once the template is added to all pages only the most recent or the current update would point to Next Update. If this could be calculated easily in #2 and/or #3 then those would at least no longer need to be changed/maintained. This might make it easier for #5 to also be included.
I hadn't thought the above through before because i was in a SQL mindset that i could just pull the max version number across all pages, which doesn't seem so possible at the moment. I will mess with the template at some point but still any ideas are welcome. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 03:32, July 5, 2015 (UTC)


It would be nice if we could have a more dynamic environment, but I think the performance is more important than saving 10 edits in a year. Cross-page communication is very inefficient because MediaWiki is not designed for it. -- Sixorish (talk) 03:52, July 5, 2015 (UTC)

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