Bug in the spoiler?

There seems to be a error somewhere in this and my friend have both gone through it word for word according to the guide and have gotten our numbers, mine was 13 and his 49 but when we go up the tower the last time, saying Sigil or Test to the Riddler makes him ask "What do I havein my pocket?", which is a trick question that sends you to hellgate.

Any help on where the guide is bugged would be helpful.


Sorry about that. I haven't completed this quest, but made this walkthrough from 3 different spoilers found elsewhere. I thought it was pretty reliable since they all agreed on the steps, but were not just copies of eachother. I guess nobody is perfect.

Please, if anyone has more accurate information, make corrections to this page. some friends and I are planning to go through this quest when they all meet the level requirements, so I will fix the spoiler then if noone has beat me to it.

In the meantime, I'll see if I can find some more info about it. If you saved your log, can you maybe post the conversations on this talk page... might be helpful, even if it is missing some correct answers.

 Nemo Hispanic Inquisition expectat
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 07:51, 3 January 2006 (CST)

Changing Questions

After researching a little bit, I have come to the conclusion that the riddler does not always ask the same questions in the same order. Until I can learn more (or someone else updates the spoiler), use good judgement and pick answers that make sense for the question. It is possible that these are the correct answers but are in the wrong order.

 Nemo Hispanic Inquisition expectat
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 08:42, 3 January 2006 (CST)

Not Finished Yet

Okay, so I've started this quest with a couple friends. I will make some small updates for what I have learned so far, but we haven't finished yet. It seems that running away instead of answering the questions and going to hellgate doesn't work. Apparently there is no way to avoid being sent to hellgate. I can't confirm this yet, but I will hopefully know pretty soon.

 Nemo Hispanic Inquisition expectat
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 13:28, 12 January 2006 (CST)

Finished the Quest

Well, we finally finished the quest. There is no way around it... you HAVE to go through Hellgate twice. We tried backing out through the teleport, but he would always ask us the "What's in my pocket" question until we went through hellgate, then he asked us the correct questions. I updated the spoiler... that will hopefully answer anyone's questions about it.

 Nemo Hispanic Inquisition expectat
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 08:46, 13 January 2006 (CST)

I only went once

I read some where that it was possible to do the quest and only go to Hellgate once. When I tried it out, but unlike you I skipped the first tripp to the tower and started of talking to the NPCs. and I were only sent to Hellgate once. But that made me wonder if one wouldn't be telleported if one talked to the prissoner before going to the tower.

User:Nazoz/Signature 17:44, 18 June 2006 (CET)

We had one person in our group that tried to talk to the prisoner too early, but the prisoner only told him that he was "no enlightened" or something like that. He had to go back after talking to the riddler.

-- WhitelacesTalk † χρισtoς αnεσtη, αληθως αnεσtη -- 05:39, 19 June 2006 (PDT)

It's possible to go to Hellgate only once. You have to start the quest from poH temple later Edron and so on. After visiting Carlin and Lubo, you have to go to the Tower and answer wrong. You will se send to Hellgate. Next step - A Prisoner, number and finally - and last time - Paradox Tower and rewards.
Jura 21:47, 30 June 006 (CET)

I believe you, Jura, that you should only need to go to Hellgate once, but you HAVE to go at least once. The prisoner won't give you your number until you have been to the tower and through helgate at least one time. When we did the quest, we went through twice.

-- WhitelacesTalk † χρισtoς αnεσtη, αληθως αnεσtη -- 13:35, 30 June 2006 (PDT)

Parcels and Levitate

I'm not sure what this edit is trying to say:

I reverted it because it makes no sense.... Please re-word it and try again, or post here with what you actually meant.

-- WhitelacesTalk † χρισtoς αnεσtη, αληθως αnεσtη -- 05:44, 29 December 2006 (PST)

route trough hellgate

Can some please make a better image of the path trough the hellgate, i realy like the images that are up now, but bigger will be handy i think

--ProudElm 04:37, 16 May 2007 (PDT)

I've put |225px to the pictures.
Skeleton Beholder Skeleton  Art Featherpitch  - The mispseller -  Spam me  Skeleton Beholder Skeleton 06:38, 16 May 2007 (PDT)

thanx! will come in handy tonight.:)

rewards section unclear, missed out on 20k of items

Im sorry but today a friend missed out on 20k. this is because of the unclear rewards section where it tells you what u wont get instead of what u will get. this is stupid whoever came up with that idea

I reccomend to change the spoiler so that it displays what you sill get on teh times and not when your wont get. its pathetic. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Neptune (talkcontribs). Remember to sign your comments!

For me, the spoiler is pretty clear about the rewards. There are 2 bold words saying you won't receive, also a warning just above it. Do you have any idea on how to improve the reward section?

-- † Pudd Knight †  Talk  Contribs  -- 16:42, 21 July 2007 (PDT)

What you are requesting is actually not possible with this quest, since each switch plate destroys one of the items. It is not possible to indicate what you will get. You can even lose ALL of the rewards if you step on all of the tiles!

If you know how to improve the page, please do so!

-- Comme un cheveau sur la soupe.
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 05:47, 23 July 2007 (PDT)

Way back at a earlier version of Tibia, couldn't you get a wooden wand and an AOL as prizes instead of the egg/WOCE? I'm not 100% sure so I won't put that in the page history but I would like to know if anyone else thinks so. Rhad

Level Requirement

Maybe I missed something, but where does the level requirement apply? Can I go to Riddler without being lvl 30? Please anwser if someone knows.

 Wie niet slim is moet slim zijn
^^  º Bennie º  ¤ Talk ¤  ^^ 08:39, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

There is (or atleast was before the update) a level 30 door of expertise above the wyvern spawn right before you sacrifice the skulls to enter the paradox tower.


This is my chat log:

16:08 Riddler: Benniestake! HEHEHEHE! Another fool! Excellent!
16:08 Benniestake [38]: test
16:08 Riddler: Death awaits those who fail the test of the three seals! Do you really want me to test you?
16:08 Benniestake [38]: yes
16:08 Riddler: So you think you're smart! But well ... So be it! Let's start out with the Seal of Knowledge and the first question: What do I have in my pocket?
16:09 Benniestake [38]: nothing
16:09 Riddler: WRONG!

Did I miss one of the requirements? I was sent to hellgate, instead of getting the questions for the quiz, really weird. Walking back now, to try again. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 14:32, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

You have to go to hellsgate at least once Craggles

Reason behind "Whats in my pocket?" question:

Apparently, if you managed to leave the npc without being teleported to hellgate or the rewards room, but having started the test, the next time you start it the question is going to be "What's in my pocket?" (a joke on Tolkien's book for those who didn't realize...) and there won't be a right answer, you will be send straight to hellgate. Oh, also if you stop the test when he asks if you want to continue, this won't happen. Add this to the spoiler if you feel like, I'm too lazy and stuff... (Kinight 07:30, 31 May 2009 (UTC))

Way to NOT go through Hellgate?

I was thinking: if you get that "wrong question"(pocket one) if you don't talk to the NPCs before going to the towers, maybe it is possible to get your magic number before going to the tower - or even better, a way to the riddler not ask you the number at all?

If you read your quest log, There is "The Feared Hugo(complete)" saying at the end: "Someone might be interested on this..."

I always felt that the quest wasn't fully complete even after finishing it, like I jumped a part of the quest. Maybe there is a way to not go to hellgate at all..?


Zephirdd 00:04, January 22, 2010 (UTC)

added a research note to the 1+1= question

Glotzer 17:37, June 7, 2010 (UTC)

The Secret of Mathemagics

Once, I made this quest with my mainchar and I gave correct answer just by luck, now im wandering what is the highest number possible. (I have 1+1=94 on sec char) W miki 20:20, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

1+1 Answer

Well, I don't know if this is a coincidence but I have done this quest 2 times with a partner. Everytime, the prisoner told us the same number (different on both times).

Anyone else experienced this? Maybe the number is daily... so someone just needs to go and tell them the number and everyone else doesn't go to hellgate.

M1n054 16:45, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

The answer is either 1, 13, 49 or 94. Equal chance it is any of those. So really, you have a 25% chance of skipping hellgate if you pick one of those numbers.

- Kikaro -- Contribs - 15:27, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

In fact, I once answered 1, got kicked to hellgate as always, then went to prisoner, and he told me that 1+1=1. So despite answering corectly, I was tped to hellgate. This is, I suppose, because you need to set questflag by talking to prisoner, which enables you to advance in quest. That's why there is no way of avoiding hg.
    ×  Sv.  ×  ×  Talk  ×     15:46, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah it looks like you're right. Back in 2006(?) when the code leaked, the NPCs chat lines got spread to the internet (just google it). I just had a look at A Prisoner's text, and indeed, the flag is set when he tells you your number.
- Kikaro -- Contribs -
17:46, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Ghoul problem

When I use the lever in the Ghoul's room the crate appears but when the ghouls come to it he destroy it, don't move it.

There is a whole thread dedicated to this on the forum, "BUG ON PARADOX TOWER QUEST". It's weird, because I don't recall any updates being announced since I did Paradox. We should probably note that this quest is bugged right now. -- Sixorish 20:47, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

Probably a silent server update? I wanted to go make this quest with a secondary char for another phoenix egg since some time, I went today to test, I can't pass ghoul. --Daniel Letalis 03:23, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Correct answer at first time doesn't work.

i said 1 at the questline in the tower to the ghost npc and he sent my 2nd char to hellgate. Then i went to mintwalin to the prisoner and got this: 16:13 A Prisoner: So know that everything is based on the simple fact that 1 + 1 = 1!

Exoltes (talk) 14:18, October 18, 2013 (UTC)

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