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Spoilers on Random page

Is there any way to avoid showing "Spoiler Quest Pages" when one uses the Random page link in the menu?--

 Ψ Genosonic Ψ   Ψ  My Contributions Ψ   Ψ  Talk Ψ   21:40, 8 March 2007 (PST)


This has been asked before, and I could not find any way to do that. The best we can do is have the warning at the top of those pages.

If anyone else has found something that I am not aware of, please let me know. I might be wrong.

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--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 08:28, 9 March 2007 (PST)


Is it possible for some "Special" category pages to be hidden while using Random Page? For example Spoiler:The Postman Missions Quest, just like Tibiawiki:, Special:, User:, User talk:, etc. I'm not sure at all if new categories can be made nor if they can be hidden but I think I haven't stumbled upon a talk page before, don't remember if I have stumbled upon an user's page either, maybe those don't show on Random page...

Any knowledge of that? --

 Ψ Genosonic Ψ   Ψ  My Contributions Ψ   Ψ  Talk Ψ   09:27, 9 March 2007 (PST)


That is true, the random link only shows pages from the global article namespace, but all of the namespaces are pre-defined by the software. Creating an article called "Spoiler:Such and Such" would not prevent it from showing up in the random links... it would still be part of the global article namespace.

Nice idea, but it would not work like you are asking.

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--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 09:34, 9 March 2007 (PST)


Well, but if this software is open to modification I'm sure modifications can take place since it's just php programming. If there's a popular demand for this and Erig can do it, we can make a petition on this. I'm also quite sure and positive that we wouldn't be the first ones with this problem and that a script or mod has already been made to address this situation. --

 Ψ Genosonic Ψ   Ψ  My Contributions Ψ   Ψ  Talk Ψ   10:48, 9 March 2007 (PST)

EDIT: Check this page, maybe it's useful, I'm not quite sure but seems like it's what we need o.O --

 Ψ Genosonic Ψ   Ψ  My Contributions Ψ   Ψ  Talk Ψ   11:03, 9 March 2007 (PST)


Yes and no. It is open to modification, but with every new update, the changes would be replaced (this is usually desirable, especially if there is a change in the data structure or added functionality to that particular module). The only way to avoid this would be to submit the change to be included in the standard product.

It would probably be better to write a new extension and special page, instead of hacking the one that is there. I will look into it, and see if it would be very difficult.

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--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 11:43, 9 March 2007 (PST)


Yes, I have seen that feature (custom namespaces), but I do not think it would be a good idea to use them in this case. Namespaces are generally used to distinguish different content types, not to make a "group" of articles. Also, creating a separate namespace would bring about other problems. For example, searches would not include the custom namespaces by default (or maybe at all).

I still think the best solution for the randompage thing would be a method (probably a custom extension or specialpage) to ignore all articles that belong to a certain category. This would not directly interfere with the trunk mediawiki codebase, it would not confuse the concept of namespaces and their purpose in the mediawiki software, and it would be very easy to maintain once it is implemented (would not need special consideration during mediawiki updates or other system changes).

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--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 12:18, 9 March 2007 (PST)


I think I might have found a way around this problem... I was browsing the code for the random specialpage, and there may be a way for Erig to add a line to the configuration file for the MediaWiki software. This would be a MUCH MUCH better solution than anything we have talked about here..... I will work out the details and post a message on Erig's talk page.

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--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 12:46, 9 March 2007 (PST)


Just great, if I'm not mistaken, Erig said it worked, that's way nice to hear ;) now Spoilers should be hidden :D

Off topic: Whitelaces, I added you to my Google Talk, so if you use it or enter to your e-mail I can contact you (if you accept me of course). --

 Ψ Genosonic Ψ   Ψ  My Contributions Ψ   Ψ  Talk Ψ   15:08, 9 March 2007 (PST)

would spoiler pages not showing up in search be a bad thing? they already have a page for each quest with no spoiling info on it and most of the key words on it, atm when u search it shows both pages, if it only showed the front i dont think it would hurt anyone. of course it would limit searching somewhat as there might be a few references in the spoiler that a play may search for...
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