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This may sound sort of farfetched but.. either its hidden in the update or will be added in the next couple... I think people might be able to create their own armor and wepons with some of these items. Several leathers, a paw, we already found a paw chain, chicken feathers along with its comment thing. Tell me I'm crazy lol Elemental

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Uhm... now that i looked at the addon quests... i take that back. But it makes sense so it's still possible. Elemental

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should tortoise eggs be in this list? Since they are just food it doesnt seem they should belong here since normal eggs, and other types of food arent either

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Oct 22 '06 I think the eggs should be on the list. But is anyone able to make the Nose Ring click-able? It doesn't to do it for me, but I'm not a wikipedia expert (at all). (Willy the Pox.) - Found out, I did something wrong.. sorry. <blushes>

Defining Creature Items

It was brought up if eggs (and other food items) should be in this list or not. Since there are some weird items here, it might be helpful to define (or redefine) this category.

Here is my proposal:

Creatures Items are (as I wrote when I originally made this page) any items that are either part of a deceased creature (Bat Wing, Dragon Scale, Vampire Dust, etc.) or produced by a creature (Honeycomb, Tortoise Egg, , etc.).


This obviously excludes some items (Eye Patch, Blue Cloth, etc.). These should either be placed in existing categories, or we need to define some new ones, but I do not think they fit the logical description of "Creature Items" (maybe we need to re-name it something else anyway).

Yes, some items may be in more than one category.

Please provide some feedback and ideas.

-- WhitelacesTalk † χρισtoς αnεσtη, αληθως αnεσtη -- 05:29, 30 October 2006 (PST)

Enumerate-- personaly I think tortise eggs should not be on this list, because 1) they are food, 2) they are not required for an addon, 3) the thornback drops more then 1 of them at a time in a pile {thats different from any other addon item), and 4) chicken eggs are not on the list just my opinion


You are correct, the tortoise eggs you can loot are not used in any add-on or quest, but the phrase "Creature Products" has no implication that the items must be used this way. The name only implies that the item came from, or was made by, a creature.

I also think that Chicken Eggs belong on this page, too.

The true dilemma in my mind, is how to categorize the items like blue cloth, eye patch, etc. Maybe I'll come up with something, but I am open to ideas.

-- WhitelacesTalk † χρισtoς αnεσtη, αληθως αnεσtη -- 06:04, 6 November 2006 (PST)


Hello all,

In my opinion, most of the so-called creature products would fit into existing categories.

The dilemma resides on this: Why is Green Piece of Cloth a creature product while Small Oil Lamp is not?

Because it is "assumed" that the Djinns produce the cloth piece?
Well, it could be "assumed" that they produce Small Oil Lamps in their free time. :)

So, i'd put all blue/green/red/... clothes as well as holy orchids and heaven blossoms in decorations for example. Nose ring, Sniper gloves, Soul stone, Peg legs, Music sheets could go to Quest Items for example.

Basically my idea to classify these items is to focus on their use (mostly Quest/Decoration) rather than their origin.

Footnote: I strongly disagree that Scarab Coins feature in this category.

Ryek Azagoth 07:13, 6 November 2006 (PST)


There we go... Ryek understands what I'm getting at here.

holy orchids and heaven blossoms should probably go in Plants and Herbs.

scarab coins belong in Valuables.

the cloths are harder... they don't truly seem like decoration to me... more like swatches of fabric, but I'm not sure what category we could put them in. The "Decorations" category was used as a "catch-all" category... I'm trying to get away from that.

Maybe we need another category for Clothing and Accesories? This would probably include some Armors (the ones that pass as clothing - shirt, dresses, etc.), and maybe the peg leg, nose ring, etc. We could put the cloths in this category, too.... I guess.

-- WhitelacesTalk † χρισtoς αnεσtη, αληθως αnεσtη -- 07:20, 6 November 2006 (PST)


I do agree with the Clothing and Accessories section if you want to keep Decorations tidy. Dresses, Bast Skirts, Hooks, etc as well as pirate bosses' items would fit in nicely. Also agree that the flowers belong in Plants and Herbs.

I'd still put Wood, Iron Ore and Music Sheets in the quest items group (Quoting from the page "Quest Items serve no purpose other than to help you complete a quest.") and they wouldnt go into Clothes/Acessories...

Honeycombs could be kept as a creature product even though i don't really like them being there (Wasps produce it, Bears do not, both drop it, see my point?^^) but, since they are not edible... they gotta be kept at Creture Products, i think.

Tortoise Eggs, chicken eggs are best left at Foods section. If not, then Ham and Meat for example would have to be Creature Products 'cause when a Hydra dies, it drops Meat/Ham.

Just my opinion, anyways... i am willing to help on re-arranging these items as soon as we come to an agreement on this.

Buh-Bye for now...

Ryek Azagoth 08:19, 6 November 2006 (PST)


Excellent... we're starting to get some concensus.

I agree with you, except on the following points:

I think honeycombs belong here... regardless of who drops it, it is still produced by wasps (actually... RL wasps don't make honeycombs.. but that's a different issue). The fact that bears drop it does not imply that the bears made it, and I do not think that creates any kind of conflict with the idea.

I see what you mean about foods, but items can still be in more than one category. I think that anything edible should be in the Food list, whether it is in a different list or not. I think that eggs and tortoise eggs still should be in this list, but yes... they also should be on the Food page.

Meat and Ham are a little different. I actually think they should be on the creature products list, too (in addition to being on the food list). The primary difference between meat/ham and other creature products is that you cannot easily identify what creature they came from (nearly all creatures seem to drop meat or ham). Other than that, I think they fit into the implied meaning of the phrase "Creature Products".

-- WhitelacesTalk † χρισtoς αnεσtη, αληθως αnεσtη -- 08:49, 6 November 2006 (PST)

To me a creature product usually involves an addon in some shape of form, and more over they have absoulty no other useage, also they are extremely rare, or are dropped by a boss regularly. Craggles

Some people seem to have that same idea, but then the category would be named "Items used for Addons" or something like that.

The idea that the phrase "Creature Products" means "items used for an addon" probably came about because all of these items appeared in the same update as the new outfits and addons. I can't understand how else people would assume that the phrase "Creature Products" means that the items can only be used to get outfits or addons.

-- WhitelacesTalk † χρισtoς αnεσtη, αληθως αnεσtη -- 09:11, 6 November 2006 (PST)


How about nails and gear wheels? I think those are parts of golems. I think also Hieroglyph Banner, Pharaoh Banner and Piece of Decay Paper might belong here. W miki 13:48, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

About the item "Cat's Paw"

This is not a creature product, but a torture instrument. So please, stop adding it to this list just because it has "cat" in its name. Thank you.

Mathias (profile, talk) · Favelets · Formulas — 13:54, 21 January 2007 (PST)

flowers

heaven blossom and Holy orchid should be on that list, anything created by the creautre is what the page says, in that case, since the flowers are cultivated by the elves, they should fit within the criteria of the page. ~timik


I disagree....

Things "created by" a creature would be items like Giant Spider Silk... where the spider would have actually created the item. Elves do not make plants and flowers, they would only have picked them off the ground.

On a side note, concerning the assertion that elves "cultivated" the flowers... there is no evidence that this is true in-game. There are no fields or store-rooms that might indicate elves intentionally plant and grow these flowers.

-- ave, Caesar, morituri te salutant
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 12:15, 15 February 2007 (PST)

--- Ah, there is. The banshee queen, and Hugo say that the elves cultivate the holy orchids, and heaven blossoms. ~timik


Thank you for correcting me. I was not aware of that information about elves.

Regardless of that, these flowers are still not made by the elves. They are not part of the elves' bodies, the elves do not excrete some hormone that turns into these flowers. I still do not think they belong on this page.

-- Non plaudite. Modo pecuniam jacite
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 06:13, 16 February 2007 (PST)

Tortoise Eggs

I think these should be removed from the page. Else you would have to add alot of food dropped from other creatures (meat from bears for example). It just seems out of place and if its already on the food page I don't think they should be on this one. Thanks ~ Uno time


I am completely indifferent about this one. A strong valid argument can be made either way, but based on the general use and purpose of this page, it is inconsequential to list tortoise eggs or not.

-- Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est.
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 06:15, 16 February 2007 (PST)


about tortoise eggs, I think they should be kep here as they can only be looted from tortoises... just like Dragon Ham from dragons (which I think that should belong to this page)

anyways that's just my opinion
 Nagatho Goldenflag   Talk   Contributions   16 February 2007 - 16:46 


MY OPINION (as long as anyone is interested )
this site is about tibia, not about real life. Its about the use of the items not about the looks. I dont think dragon ham, honeycomb and elephant tusk are related. Hams are food so they belong on the food page, tusks are decoration so they belong on the decoration page and honeycombs, together with the most things on this page are needed for addons. I know theres an "items needed for addon page" but i think we must remove things like equipment and just keep an nice overvieuw of all this addon-ish items(dont know how to call it since crearure product will bring us back to the same problem)
This also concerns for metals, plants and herbs, clothing accesoires,...
things like star herb and holy orchid doesnt have anything to do with eachother in tibia, they have plant graphics, thats all.

yours, foggy (sorry for bad english)


well, I agree with that guy up there that many items listed here could be in different categories.... but I don't see a reason why tusks should be considered decoration and honeycomb not.. it's not considered a decoration because people use it as a decoration (otherwise most shields would have to be listed as deco)

also, I'ld like to take advantage of the oportunity and express my dissatisfaction with the way items are being categorised.. of course this doesn't belong to this page, but I just wanted to have it said..

anyways hugs,
 Nagatho Goldenflag   Talk   Contributions   16 February 2007 - 20:44 


Every item has a primary category.... but many items also fit into other categories as well. For example... many Quest Items also belong in other categories, but their primary category is "Quest Items".

The same should be applied to many of these items. Tortoise Eggs could easily belong in "Food" and in "Creature Products".... but their primary function in Tibia is "Food"... so their primary category should be Food.

It's not a difficult concept, and categorizing items should not be this difficult. The only purpose for categorizing items is to make them all easier to find in the wiki.... shorter lists.... grouped with similar items by appearance/function/source, etc. Please keep this in mind.

-- Non curo. Si metrum non habet, non est poema.
--  Whitelaces †  Talk †  -- 07:02, 19 February 2007 (PST)


Why are these in the list?

Why are Roc Feather, Shard and Wood in the category? they aren't creature products ...
Sixorish ~~ Talk ~~ Contribs


Sell price

Wouldn't it be nice to show the actual npc prices for the items on this list? Since they are mostly meant to be sold? FowkTalk 16:16, February 20, 2014 (UTC)

That is what this page is for. -- Wouterboy (talk) 17:54, February 20, 2014 (UTC)

This list would be more useful if there was a NPC-value column added. Only problem would be the confusion that items such as nose ring would look low valued. Stone Ed (talk) 06:58, March 19, 2016 (UTC)

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