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Feel free to discuss things among admins. Ask things to admins, propose new ideas etc. Reporting a vandal can also be perfectly done here, but is not really the intention of this page. Also note that this page doesn't have the same function as TibiaWiki talk:Community Portal.


New preprocessor

Soon we will be updating to the new preprocessor which may cause some periodic negative effects (such as page layout distortions, odd "<tr>'s" appearing over the tables, expression errors etc.) A null-edit should fix these issues, but that may not always be the case. The only suspected issues are of some User: pages using specific templates, and some food/weapon pages, but may occur on some other pages. You can report issues here or by using the "Report a problem" feature.
I will be putting a site notice up when it's in use. (You can also report missing items on page overviews like Shields if you like, but a null-edit would be much quicker) -- Sixorish 12:00, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


What exactly is a preprocessor, and why does it needs to be updated. And who editted that notification which is on the top of every page? Is it a mediawiki file? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 17:49, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


Preprocessor; thing that makes templates etc look like they are, it "translates" {{#if:}}, etc.

Needs updating because over time Wikia will update to the new one, since it's faster and less buggy etc. Doesn't matter when it gets updated, but we figured now would work.

Last one; MediaWiki:Sitenotice (if you decide to change it, also increase the number on MediaWiki:Sitenotice id).

Temahk 18:00, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


DPL Templates

Can anyone help me fixing the Attributes column in the DPL Templates (Template:DPLPARM Armor.include, Template:DPLPARM Armor.table and Template:DPLPARM Armor.tablerow)?

<·> Hunter of Dragoes <·> My Talk <·> My Contributions <·> 22:18, 15 November 2008 (UTC)


Fixed. I changed "attributes" to "attrib" as it is in the Template:Infobox Item. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me


Thanks, DM. I just saw attributes in Template:DPLPARM Item.include and copied it.

<·> Hunter of Dragoes <·> My Talk <·> My Contributions <·> 01:51, 16 November 2008 (UTC)


RC Patrols

How does m:Help:Patrolled edit sound to you guys? it basically adds a button to mark an edit as "patrolled", and unpatrolled edits would have an exclamation mark next to them on Special:RecentChanges. It would save some time when we go through edits to find vandals, etc. Of course, if it were implemented only admins would be able to mark it (that doesn't include you Temahk... ohcrap!), well OK..maybe autoconfirmed users... -- Sixorish 10:11, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


Although you usually can quickly see if an edit is vandalism (only not if the vandal adjusted a very small amount of text) it seems a quite good feature. My vote is: yes! ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 20:26, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


We used to have this function, but they did not reset when there were new edits after an admin patrolled the article and more recent pages have not had that option. If there is a way to adjust it, then yes it is a good thing. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 21:23, 27 November 2008 (UTC)


I didn't know we had that at one point, but that behavior doesn't seem normal, maybe it was a bug? (which would probably be fixed by now) I suppose if it doesn't perform as expected we can always have it turned back off. -- Sixorish 07:55, 28 November 2008 (UTC)


We probably need to ask the wikia staff to install it, can you give it a shot, sixorish? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 14:54, 28 November 2008 (UTC)


I have contacted them about it, and they just turned it on..wow, that was faster than expected. Anyone in favor of allowing IPs to edit? meaning, they won't need to sign up. It would increase the amount of people who edited (at least I think it would), I'm not sure why we have it protected to logged in users anyway, vandalism has never been a big issue. -- Sixorish 06:37, 2 December 2008 (UTC) I notice any edit I make now is already marked as patrolled, the exclamation mark is probably limited to edits of people who don't have the permission to mark it themselves. -- Sixorish 06:48, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


Wow, the patrol thing works indeed. I think, this wiki has always been more protected-like than other wikis, more and more important pages get protected due to vandalism. The IPs to edit, is that something we can turn on/off? If so, I would say: give it a try for ~1 month. If it attracts too much vandalism we can always turn it off.
Edit: that probably only works from now on, my older edits are still marked. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 06:51, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


Ok, this is really weird. I don't see any button to mark it, how do I do this? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 06:54, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


press "diff" on one of the marked things in recentchanges, you'll see something like:

Sixorish (Talk | contribs | block) [rollback]
m
[Mark as patrolled]

the "Mark as patrolled" will only appear on things mark with the exclamation mark, people who are autoconfirmed (been around for 4+ days I think) don't have it, e.g User:VixonElnosta‎ was just edited, see this, there should be a [mark as patrolled] link. -- Sixorish 07:05, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Received an email back from them, "If you would like changes made in who can mark edits as patrolled, or who's edit are auto-patrolled, please let us know." - I'll request they change it so that only sysops' edits are auto-patrolled, but leave marking for autoconfirmed (if possible) -- Sixorish 07:12, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


Ok, I got it working now. If it is possible it would also be good if edits of userpages are also excluded from being exclamated. Because the partrolling is to prevent vandalism, right? Who cares if someone vandalizes his own userpage. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 09:30, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


I included that in my email, but I'm not quite sure if there's an option to set namespace exclusion, guess we'll find out soon. -- Sixorish 09:34, 2 December 2008 (UTC)


They emailed me back with as I expected, they don't think it's possible to auto-patrol user namespace pages, and all pages should become "patrolled" after about 30 days without being checked on. -- Sixorish


Ok, after having it some time, I want to give some feedback. I think it doesn't really work. There are too much small edits to review them all, and mark them as patrolled. What's the difference between no exclamation marks and everywhere exclamation marks? I don't know a solution, please give more feedback anyone. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 18:31, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


I was going to say the same thing; I will contact wikia to disable it again tomorrow if nobody objects. -- Sixorish 19:16, 17 December 2008 (UTC)


Distinctive Characters

Averthith Solifitrotus

Should we create an article about Averthith Solifitrotus?
Since she was the first to reach magic level 100 (as we can see here and here).
Don't forgot to list Averthith Solifitrotus here.

<·> Hunter of Dragoes <·> My Talk <·> My Contributions <·> 17:24, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


Good one, I vote to list him. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 19:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


I created Averthith Solifitrotus article and added it to Distinctive Characters list. Feel free to add more informations to Averthith Solifitrotus.

<·> Hunter of Dragoes <·> My Talk <·> My Contributions <·> 19:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Sunrise

Seems that Art thinks Sunrise was the only Rookgaard character who used to own a house, how can Art be sure? Since all characters with no vocation could bid on houses (official news), I think Sunrise wasn't the only. I think that Sunrise was just the Rooker who used to own a house for more time (feel free to rewrite it).

<·> Hunter of Dragoes <·> My Talk <·> My Contributions <·> 17:24, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


Maybe you are right, maybe not. The only one I heard of owning a house in rook was Sunrise though. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 19:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)


Wikia messages to admins

I suggest that when Wikia sends admins messages relevant to the whole wiki that the message in part be put on MediaWiki:Sitenotice if it is needed. For now i will put the note about the edit disable on 9am - 10am UTC Tuesday. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 02:34, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


Good idea. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 06:11, 16 December 2008 (UTC)


Image Licensing

For a few weeks you're able to select a license when uploading an image. When doing so, non-existing templates will be called, thus creating a red link. I discussed this with a friend and we think licenses for tibiawiki materials are not needed, since everything must be strictly about tibia and thus automatically is copyrighted by Cipsoft. Do you guys agree with me we should have this license removed, if possible (maybe it's mediawiki stuff nobody has control over)? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 18:43, 22 December 2008 (UTC)


Everyone is invited to use pictures from the official website or from the game for the fansite as long as they mention www.Tibia.com as source of the used material. This doesn't mean that you have to "sign" every single screenshot, but it is necessary that these information can be found at the website.
This information can be found on TibiaWiki:About which is used on the Main Page.
We don't need those "license templates".

<·> Hunter of Dragoes <·> My Talk <·> My Contributions <·> 13:34, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


the licensing were wikia's default, new wikis they host are given templates to 'start off' and I guess we were given the default (but not the templates), licensing is held at MediaWiki:Licenses. I created it and it should be gone now. -- Sixorish 14:32, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


Thanks, that was easier than I thought (although I must admit I didn't check up which mediawiki file it was).
P.S. Six, I'm not a girl.. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 16:22, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


Image Bug

Some images (e.g. Image:Gladiator.gif and Image:Mutated Bat.gif) are bugged and the current version isn't showed, if you try see their current version (here and here) the message Not found (error to origin) is showed instead the image.

<·> Hunter of Dragoes <·> My Talk <·> My Contributions <·> 17:52, 28 December 2008 (UTC)


see this, might be why... it works for me (as it did back then as well). -- Sixorish 18:29, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Week 1, 2008

Why is "{{CURRENTWEEK}}, {{CURRENTYEAR}}" wrong?
The Main Page is using the Featured NPC, Featured Creature and Featured Item from Week 1, 2008, and is not asking for new featureds.
The "{{CURRENTWEEK}}" should be 53, since it's still 2008.

<·> Hunter of Dragoes <·> My Talk <·> My Contributions <·> 15:37, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


Ehm, a year only has 52 weeks, week 53 does not exist and shouldn't/can't be used. Maybe it sounds weird but it IS already week 1. Week 1 goes from December 29 till January 4. So everything is working correct :) although it might seem confusing. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 15:42, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


Then the "{{CURRENTYEAR}}" should be 2009.

<·> Hunter of Dragoes <·> My Talk <·> My Contributions <·> 16:05, 29 December 2008 (UTC)


No, it's technically still 2008, you can't consider it week 53 since it doesn't exist, and MediaWiki doesn't have a "week 53", year number will turn over when it hits jan 01, until then you can only make a temporary change to the main page to use 2009 versions. -- Sixorish 16:14, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

About Lord de los Druidas listed in TibiaWiki:Administrators

Since Lord de los Druidas was desysopped, I think that he should be listed as a former administrator.
Does anyone agree with me?

<·> Hunter of Dragoes <·> My Talk <·> My Contributions <·> 17:28, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


Yeah, whatever you think is best. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 18:35, 7 January 2009 (UTC)


"desysopped" is not a word, neither is "sysop" for that matter. I can not presently think of a better word, but it should be changed. Also it is true that he was removed (in a good way) and did not just quit, but it is still a retirement by definition. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 20:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


"Desysopped" is the word used by Wikipedia. I couldn't think of a better word too, this is the reason for "desysopped". I agree, it should be changed.

<·> Hunter of Dragoes <·> My Talk <·> My Contributions <·> 19:49, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


"He got the boot" would be the most fitting for you grammar freaks. -- Maverick the hunter 20:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Standard Wiki Skin

Hello guys, I just accidentally looked at the wiki on a new browser, not logged-in and saw the default skin is weird. So I checked it up and the default skin is set to smoke, while I'm using sapphire. I'm proposing to set the default to sapphire, would that be ok with you? Although I don't have very good arguments, mainly because I like sapphire more than smoke and it's annoying to have another skin when viewing the wiki logged-out. So, please give your opinion. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 18:28, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


I dont like the Monaco skin at all. But the sapphire version does look better than the smoke version. I really do not like the yellow bars etc.
If my vote counts, pick the sapphire version!

Temahk 19:07, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


I don't use it, but imo sapphire is a lot better and I think the majority of viewers would prefer the sapphire skin. -- Sixorish 19:11, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


Thank you guys :) ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 20:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


It took me a long time to get used to MonoBook and now you change things on me again! I suppose i can live with it, and sapphire blue is a calming color, although i do not mind the smoke yellow. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 20:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC)


I vote shapphire skin
Kwigon the sharpshooter 20:34, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Some things to discuss

Hello guys,
I want to discuss some things, well and ask some things. First: is there a way to look back in the Recent Change further than 500 edits? Because I haven't been on the wiki one or two days, and I can't look back everything what has changed. Secondly: Maverick reminded something to me, do we (admins) have a policy in how long to block users? Is it worth to make a standard on different crimes = different block times? Also, taking the sitenotice DM created literally, all links to tibia.pl should be deleted (like map links to tibia earth), anyone votes to do this? I mean, they are unsupported, I can imagine people don't want to get hacked and stuff.. I think, that's about it. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 16:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


@RC: Below are the last 5,000 changes in the last 7 days, as of 19:25, 11 January 2009.
Just change the number in the link (limit=number).

Temahk 17:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


There was more i considered writing for the sitenotice, but i wanted to keep it short. There are other safe websites like Wikipedia that we allow and some unsupported sites. I wrote it mostly as a warning due to the recent mass vandalism on quest pages, since they linked to outside sites that were dangerous. Personally i think tibia.pl is fine, but it is understandable if we discontinue all links there.
Bennie, when you adjust the recent changes limit, you can also change it in the url to larger numbers (i.e. [1]) like Temahk said.
--DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 17:36, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


Ok, thanks (could have figured that out myself, feeling a bit dumb right now). ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 20:25, 11 January 2009 (UTC)


I agree that we should make some standards on block durations, blocking for year(s) for a minor act of vandalism which people might accidentally do isn't encouraging people to come contribute. -- Sixorish 10:23, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

<br> or <br/>

I noticed that some admins use <br/>, I would know what is the difference between <br> and <br/>?

<·> Hunter of Dragoes <·> My Talk <·> My Contributions <·> 19:31, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


The <br /> closes the tag without any contents. <br> on the other hand leaves the tag open, but still causes no harm (but may not be friendly with (X)HTML validators..), think of <br/> as good practice of using X(HT)ML syntax. The difference is minimal; since the wiki software generates <br /> automatically even if just <br> is used. -- Sixorish 20:11, 16 January 2009 (UTC)


But I think <br/> is wrong, only <br /> is good, isn't it? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 07:58, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


There's no reason for them to be any different, the whitespace does nothing but make the source look a little prettier. (inserted some nowiki tags in your message so I don't look weird)
@Wikipedia section "Common errors": Not closing empty elements (elements without closing tags in HTML4). Incorrect: <br>. Correct: <br />. Note that any of these are acceptable in XHTML: <br></br>, <br/> and <br /> -- Sixorish 08:11, 17 January 2009 (UTC)


Kinda bad eddits by NeWsOfTzzz

Am worried that NeWsOfTzzz don't care what I say in his User talk:NeWsOfTzzz about the data he lost or the bad edditeds on some monster when he did the "(Removing deprecated parameters)", and he has not fixed those mistakes nor seems to actnoledge he did a mistake. Is there a way to force him to recheck his eddits and make him fix the errors or should I just undo all his "(Removing deprecated parameters)" he did cause the ones I check he lost data (monster immune to something now it does not say it anymore) or the data changed to be missleading. (mosters where inmune to something now says its neutral)
Kwigon the sharpshooter 03:06, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


Can you provide a few examples and how they should be fixed in your opinion? I don't think he intended to destroy data, although that doesn't make it less bad. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 09:25, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


Like I say:
Vampire says neutral to drown and life drain, not inmmune to drunk, I fix it he used to say inmmune to all that.
Wyvern: he delete that they inmmune to drunkness (I fix it too)
Bonebeast: Is now neutral to life drain (is wrong cause it used to say inmmmune to life drain, I haven't fixed it)
He did eddits on around 50 monsters pages, hes the one changing the old sistem to the new sistem, he atleast should have move the old data to the new sistem wichout making mistakes. Yes I could check eddit by eddit he did and fix it, but he should doit and he does not wants to doit thats the problem I guess. (I already spend time before finding if a monster where immune to something for him to delete the info or chang it)
Kwigon the sharpshooter 14:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

FanArt

Since it seems a common thing now, should we make it similar to the /History pages? users like to add them to the bottom without noinclude tags, causing pages using the /List template to include them, having a separate page should remove the issues. -- Sixorish 10:07, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


Can you give an example? You mean fanart like drawed by fans or screenshots of them slaying a monster? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 16:13, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


Grim Reaper, the external link to here -- Sixorish 16:27, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Revising policy on user image uploads

Since users like to upload things and decorate their user pages, I think something should be done to prevent it turning in to some "photobucket alternative", something like:

  • limit users to x user-specific images, "user-specific" would mean images which serve no informative purpose for the wiki, the amount could be a constant or a variable which is influenced by main namespace edits.
  • images should be uploaded with a suitable name, "Image:User Abc-1.jpg" vs. "Image:lol.jpg"
  • images can be marked for deletion if the uploader has not been active for months. before deletion the user should be notified via talk or email and given a weeks (+/-) time to respond
  • user specific images can be deleted after x (a week?) of it not being in-use (I figure a week is enough time to link an image)

does anyone have thoughts on this? -- Sixorish 10:43, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


I totally agree. I hate people who spam the wiki with bad named images, I don't really care how much it is but the bad naming is frustrating. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 16:15, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


I'm not an admin..obviously but maybe on the welcome note for users there could be some information warning users that if they upload images with bad names they may be deleted or wrote on the upload image page or something. If they know first hand before uploading images maybe less will upload them with bad names. beejay 16:33, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


That could work, but I doubt most people would even notice a warning message on the top of a page -- Sixorish 17:04, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


To know such a thing we must know more about our users. Like: do they speak english fluently? Although, even if they it might not be enough. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 17:23, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


Also, is it ok to delete images only used on user pages when extension is uppercased? Or would that be rude. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 17:27, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


I would say that's fine, since there's a note about that on the TibiaWiki:Standards page -- Sixorish 17:52, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


Let's take this user as an example gaga~'s list of contributions consist of 2 contributions: his user page and an image on it. Obviously that is not the purpose of tibiawiki. I'm planning a major check up of the file list to filter out ALL uppercased extensions and bad images (and catagorizing them), any help is welcome. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 18:25, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


Out of courtesy i would recommend that when you reupload someone's image that you deleted that you note credit to them in the summary. This is not always necessary, but some people put an effort into their images, so it would be a good thing to do. On a side note i am rather busy in the world beyond but i will contribute when i can, and you will know when i have more time
--DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 19:15, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


Instead of marking for deletion, I'm going through the file archives and putting the images that need changes on the 'Images For Replacement' catogory. I can, too, manually replace them later. Yurilaszlo 16:02, 30 January 2009 (UTC)


I'll start deleting user- specific images if the uploader hasn't been around for around two months. I doubt they'll ever come back to notice but if they do come back their images can be restored. -- Sixorish 14:26, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Reporting a vandal

User:Robink321 doing bad stuff on Refugia page
Kwigon the sharpshooter 12:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


Dealt with thanks -- Sixorish 14:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


Another vandal User:Thepondus. beejay 05:15, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


He's gone for two weeks -- Sixorish 05:19, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


Would an admin check out this persons edits? Please. :) beejay 18:43, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


Done, thank you :) ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 19:04, 25 February 2009 (UTC)


Darudus Zyrode keeps creating new pages about characters (not user pages). Like this one: http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/Xauni What can be done? Kseni Of Chimera 19:29, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Policy Question

Hey guys,
I have a question, what should we do with users which only have contributions on their own userpage, and only image uploads of their own advantages, like this guy? I know Sixorish already once said to one of such users, you could better use an image upload site, instead of using tibiawiki as a photobucket. On the real wikipedia there is a very harsh policy about images, licensing is very important, but also the use of the images. I don't say we need to be that strict, but I think we must be clear, tibiawiki is not intended for this. What do you guys think? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 10:28, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


I agree and there are websites out there for people to do this kind of thing like tibiaml, maybe forwarding people to it would be a good idea, then again..Im not perfect. I just dont like how the recent changes is usually full of userpage edits.. beejay 07:17, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


I think there should be a 1 image limit if they are not regular contributors. Give them a 1 week/month warning (and recommendation to another image hosting site) and then remove extra/all images.

Another consideration is user pages that were created by other users (i.e. User:Rayn Kaorry). I asked on the creators talk page about the purpose of the page and suggested... if the person for whom the page is named not will not make a TibiaWiki account then the page should be moved as an extension of the creators user page, then deleted. On the other hand i think it is fine for someone to create their friends user page before they join, as long as it is clearly not vandalism/insulting. This can be tricky, but is also common sense.
--DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 22:40, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


The user Rayn Kaorry is registered, whether or not it's Kseni is another matter. -- Sixorish 22:49, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


At least in other cases people have made user pages for their secondary characters or for friends and the accounts under those names were not registered. I was not sure in this case when i saw Rayn Kaorry made, but it serves as an example. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 03:23, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


Ok, sounds fair enough (warning --> action). ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 09:05, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


Title

I just noticed on every page From TibiaWiki is added, below the title. Is this something we did in the mediawiki files, wikia did, something always has been there but I never noticed it or something else? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 19:51, 5 March 2009 (UTC)


Hmm, didn't see that, was reverting changes Wikia made and must've added too many to the list. I'll change it back. -- Sixorish 20:13, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Rollback

After clicking ~100 times one moment ago I wondered if there is an option to rollback ALL edits of one account at once, this is easy when a vandalism account goes unnoticed for a while. If there is no option like that, maybe it would be smart to make such an extension. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 14:25, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


There are no extension to do this that i am aware of, but there is a script on Wikipedia used to block all of one users edits. You would have to make sure that the vandal only has bad edits since it appears it would revert all of their edits. There are others but this seems to be the recommended one. I have not had a chance to use it yet.
--DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 21:12, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


That's probably the only option left if they do this, sad to say - it looks like the http:// is a requirement to trigger the filter...
On the plus side, the http:// is also needed to link to the site, so I would expect a large number of the viewers to realize it's illegitimate. -- Sixorish 22:22, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


I sent wikia an email via their contact thing in regards to this, I would prefer something legal done about this (not sure if this can but it's worth a try), but 'at the very least' their entire IP ranges blocked... Hopefully blocked from viewing too. Anyway, if nothing then I guess we can protect the pages... It would be a shame to lock such a large part of the site. -- Sixorish 05:27, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


Do you think it is the same person again and again? I cannot lookup IP adresses of users, you need oversight for that (?) but this really gets annoying so something must be done. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 06:36, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


We can only assume, they are spamming the same domain, after all. Which nic.ly (www.nic.ly/whois.php) the official Libya ccTLD, provides this of, from their WHOIS database (information of the owner of the domain):
   John Borthwick
   459 West 21st
   New York
   NY
   United States
   Zip/Postal code: 10011
   Phone: 212 566 67
   Service@Borthwick.com

but reporting to them would probably be as useful as blocking them, no abuse email it seems. -- Sixorish 07:06, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Also I think the download is hosted on a Polish mirror... so they wouldn't actually host the malicious file. -- Sixorish 07:08, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


Ok, hope that works. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 09:13, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


I'm not sure what you mean by that... I'm waiting for a staff response on the matter. I doubt they'll take legal action against it, but they can indefinitely block an IP range (I think) so, hopefully they'll do that. If not we can always protect the pages - it would be better to have talk page discussions on it rather than having 100 spam revisions per constructive edit. -- Sixorish 09:46, 13 March 2009 (UTC)


OK, a small edit - adding/removing whitepsaces even, to the effected pages should 'fix' the issue with some pages which still display links for offline viewers, but people who have logged in recently cannot see the links, probably some technical reason for it... so, if people report issues please make a small edit before closing the report... (if anyone has time, feel free to edit all those articles...) I'll go through the report archives later/tomorrow, whenever I find time... -- Sixorish 18:10, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

Incorrect edits

Chimera page have been a bit destroyed by incorrect edits lately and I have been resetign and correcting the information. However now I see that the lest 4 edits should all be undone. My question is, is it possible to undo them all or do I have to actually manually change it back to where it was? because I cant undo starting from the first since it says "other edits override it" and I dont want to undo only the last one cause I'll still have 3 left to manually correct? Will it work if I use the "undo" thing on all of them one by one? Thanks for the help! Kseni Of Chimera 17:22, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


I'm not an admin, but I'll try to answer anyways. You can open the "Edit this page" both for the correct page in the history and for the regular page. Then you copy all that text from the old correct page to the new one. That way you don't have to undo all the edits.
I hope that was understandable. Feeling a bit tired atm ;p
Nevaran 17:41, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


What Nevaran says is a good solution, I think that will work, good luck with it :) ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 17:46, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


Thanks! That worked pretty good. Just for the future in case these ppl continue doing it, is it possible that they get warned or blocked from wiki for incorrect edits? (I dont think it's needed yet, but want to know in case it will be needed) Kseni Of Chimera 18:06, 11 March 2009 (UTC)


Well, you could warn them, if that's what you're asking - there's nothing which separates admins from users when it comes to that, and if their contributions can be seen as vandalism, admins would do the very same. If they continue to do it, though, you'll need to have an admin block them (if necessary) -- Sixorish 22:32, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

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