Talk:Administrator Team

Welcome
Feel free to discuss things among admins. Ask things to admins, propose new ideas etc. Reporting a vandal can also be perfectly done here, but is not really the intention of this page. Also note that this page doesn't have the same function as TibiaWiki talk:Community Portal.

New preprocessor
Soon we will be updating to the new preprocessor which may cause some periodic negative effects (such as page layout distortions, odd " 's" appearing over the tables, expression errors etc.) A null-edit should fix these issues, but that may not always be the case. The only suspected issues are of some User: pages using specific templates, and some food/weapon pages, but may occur on some other pages. You can report issues here or by using the "Report a problem" feature. I will be putting a site notice up when it's in use. (You can also report missing items on page overviews like Shields if you like, but a null-edit would be much quicker) -- Sixorish 12:00, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

What exactly is a preprocessor, and why does it needs to be updated. And who editted that notification which is on the top of every page? Is it a mediawiki file? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 17:49, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Preprocessor; thing that makes templates etc look like they are, it "translates", etc.

Needs updating because over time Wikia will update to the new one, since it's faster and less buggy etc. Doesn't matter when it gets updated, but we figured now would work.

Last one; MediaWiki:Sitenotice (if you decide to change it, also increase the number on MediaWiki:Sitenotice id).

Temahk 18:00, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

DPL Templates
Can anyone help me fixing the Attributes column in the DPL Templates (Template:DPLPARM Armor.include, Template:DPLPARM Armor.table and Template:DPLPARM Armor.tablerow)?

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 22:18, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. I changed "attributes" to "attrib" as it is in the Template:Infobox Item. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me

Thanks, DM. I just saw attributes in Template:DPLPARM Item.include and copied it.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 01:51, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

RC Patrols
How does m:Help:Patrolled edit sound to you guys? it basically adds a button to mark an edit as "patrolled", and unpatrolled edits would have an exclamation mark next to them on Special:RecentChanges. It would save some time when we go through edits to find vandals, etc. Of course, if it were implemented only admins would be able to mark it (that doesn't include you Temahk... ohcrap!), well OK..maybe autoconfirmed users... -- Sixorish 10:11, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Although you usually can quickly see if an edit is vandalism (only not if the vandal adjusted a very small amount of text) it seems a quite good feature. My vote is: yes! ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 20:26, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

We used to have this function, but they did not reset when there were new edits after an admin patrolled the article and more recent pages have not had that option. If there is a way to adjust it, then yes it is a good thing. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 21:23, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I didn't know we had that at one point, but that behavior doesn't seem normal, maybe it was a bug? (which would probably be fixed by now) I suppose if it doesn't perform as expected we can always have it turned back off. -- Sixorish 07:55, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

We probably need to ask the wikia staff to install it, can you give it a shot, sixorish? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 14:54, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

I have contacted them about it, and they just turned it on..wow, that was faster than expected. Anyone in favor of allowing IPs to edit? meaning, they won't need to sign up. It would increase the amount of people who edited (at least I think it would), I'm not sure why we have it protected to logged in users anyway, vandalism has never been a big issue. -- Sixorish 06:37, 2 December 2008 (UTC) I notice any edit I make now is already marked as patrolled, the exclamation mark is probably limited to edits of people who don't have the permission to mark it themselves. -- Sixorish 06:48, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Wow, the patrol thing works indeed. I think, this wiki has always been more protected-like than other wikis, more and more important pages get protected due to vandalism. The IPs to edit, is that something we can turn on/off? If so, I would say: give it a try for ~1 month. If it attracts too much vandalism we can always turn it off. Edit: that probably only works from now on, my older edits are still marked. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 06:51, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok, this is really weird. I don't see any button to mark it, how do I do this? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 06:54, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

press "diff" on one of the marked things in recentchanges, you'll see something like: the "Mark as patrolled" will only appear on things mark with the exclamation mark, people who are autoconfirmed (been around for 4+ days I think) don't have it, e.g User:VixonElnosta‎ was just edited, see this, there should be a [mark as patrolled] link. -- Sixorish 07:05, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Received an email back from them, "If you would like changes made in who can mark edits as patrolled, or who's edit are auto-patrolled, please let us know." - I'll request they change it so that only sysops' edits are auto-patrolled, but leave marking for autoconfirmed (if possible) -- Sixorish 07:12, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I got it working now. If it is possible it would also be good if edits of userpages are also excluded from being exclamated. Because the partrolling is to prevent vandalism, right? Who cares if someone vandalizes his own userpage. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 09:30, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

I included that in my email, but I'm not quite sure if there's an option to set namespace exclusion, guess we'll find out soon. -- Sixorish 09:34, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

They emailed me back with as I expected, they don't think it's possible to auto-patrol user namespace pages, and all pages should become "patrolled" after about 30 days without being checked on. -- Sixorish

Ok, after having it some time, I want to give some feedback. I think it doesn't really work. There are too much small edits to review them all, and mark them as patrolled. What's the difference between no exclamation marks and everywhere exclamation marks? I don't know a solution, please give more feedback anyone. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 18:31, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I was going to say the same thing; I will contact wikia to disable it again tomorrow if nobody objects. -- Sixorish 19:16, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Averthith Solifitrotus
Should we create an article about ? Since she was the first to reach magic level 100 (as we can see here and here). Don't forgot to list Averthith Solifitrotus here.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 17:24, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Good one, I vote to list him. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 19:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I created Averthith Solifitrotus article and added it to Distinctive Characters list. Feel free to add more informations to Averthith Solifitrotus.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 19:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Sunrise
Seems that Art thinks Sunrise was the only Rookgaard character who used to own a house, how can Art be sure? Since all characters with no vocation could bid on houses, I think Sunrise wasn't the only. I think that Sunrise was just the Rooker who used to own a house for more time (feel free to rewrite it).

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 17:24, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you are right, maybe not. The only one I heard of owning a house in rook was Sunrise though. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 19:13, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Wikia messages to admins
I suggest that when Wikia sends admins messages relevant to the whole wiki that the message in part be put on MediaWiki:Sitenotice if it is needed. For now i will put the note about the edit disable on 9am - 10am UTC Tuesday. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 02:34, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Good idea. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 06:11, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Image Licensing
For a few weeks you're able to select a license when uploading an image. When doing so, non-existing templates will be called, thus creating a red link. I discussed this with a friend and we think licenses for tibiawiki materials are not needed, since everything must be strictly about tibia and thus automatically is copyrighted by Cipsoft. Do you guys agree with me we should have this license removed, if possible (maybe it's mediawiki stuff nobody has control over)? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 18:43, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

''Everyone is invited to use pictures from the official website or from the game for the fansite as long as they mention www.Tibia.com as source of the used material. This doesn't mean that you have to "sign" every single screenshot, but it is necessary that these information can be found at the website.'' This information can be found on TibiaWiki:About which is used on the Main Page. We don't need those "license templates".

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 13:34, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

the licensing were wikia's default, new wikis they host are given templates to 'start off' and I guess we were given the default (but not the templates), licensing is held at MediaWiki:Licenses. I created it and it should be gone now. -- Sixorish 14:32, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, that was easier than I thought (although I must admit I didn't check up which mediawiki file it was). P.S. Six, I'm not a girl.. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 16:22, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Image Bug
Some images (e.g. Image:Gladiator.gif and Image:Mutated Bat.gif) are bugged and the current version isn't showed, if you try see their current version (here and here) the message Not found (error to origin) is showed instead the image.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 17:52, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

see this, might be why... it works for me (as it did back then as well). -- Sixorish 18:29, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Week 1, 2008
Why is ", 2024 " wrong? The Main Page is using the Featured NPC, Featured Creature and Featured Item from Week 1, 2008, and is not asking for new featureds. The " " should be 53, since it's still 2008.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 15:37, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Ehm, a year only has 52 weeks, week 53 does not exist and shouldn't/can't be used. Maybe it sounds weird but it IS already week 1. Week 1 goes from December 29 till January 4. So everything is working correct :) although it might seem confusing. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 15:42, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

Then the " 2024 " should be 2009.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 16:05, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

No, it's technically still 2008, you can't consider it week 53 since it doesn't exist, and MediaWiki doesn't have a "week 53", year number will turn over when it hits jan 01, until then you can only make a temporary change to the main page to use 2009 versions. -- Sixorish 16:14, 29 December 2008 (UTC)

About Lord de los Druidas listed in TibiaWiki:Administrators
Since Lord de los Druidas was desysopped, I think that he should be listed as a former administrator. Does anyone agree with me?

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 17:28, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, whatever you think is best. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 18:35, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

"desysopped" is not a word, neither is "sysop" for that matter. I can not presently think of a better word, but it should be changed. Also it is true that he was removed (in a good way) and did not just quit, but it is still a retirement by definition. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 20:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

"Desysopped" is the word used by Wikipedia. I couldn't think of a better word too, this is the reason for "desysopped". I agree, it should be changed.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 19:49, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

"He got the boot" would be the most fitting for you grammar freaks. -- Maverick the hunter 20:16, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Standard Wiki Skin
Hello guys, I just accidentally looked at the wiki on a new browser, not logged-in and saw the default skin is weird. So I checked it up and the default skin is set to smoke, while I'm using sapphire. I'm proposing to set the default to sapphire, would that be ok with you? Although I don't have very good arguments, mainly because I like sapphire more than smoke and it's annoying to have another skin when viewing the wiki logged-out. So, please give your opinion. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 18:28, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I dont like the Monaco skin at all. But the sapphire version does look better than the smoke version. I really do not like the yellow bars etc. If my vote counts, pick the sapphire version!

Temahk 19:07, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't use it, but imo sapphire is a lot better and I think the majority of viewers would prefer the sapphire skin. -- Sixorish 19:11, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you guys :) ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 20:43, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

It took me a long time to get used to MonoBook and now you change things on me again! I suppose i can live with it, and sapphire blue is a calming color, although i do not mind the smoke yellow. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 20:59, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I vote shapphire skin Kwigon the sharpshooter 20:34, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Some things to discuss
Hello guys, I want to discuss some things, well and ask some things. First: is there a way to look back in the Recent Change further than 500 edits? Because I haven't been on the wiki one or two days, and I can't look back everything what has changed. Secondly: Maverick reminded something to me, do we (admins) have a policy in how long to block users? Is it worth to make a standard on different crimes = different block times? Also, taking the sitenotice DM created literally, all links to tibia.pl should be deleted (like map links to tibia earth), anyone votes to do this? I mean, they are unsupported, I can imagine people don't want to get hacked and stuff.. I think, that's about it. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 16:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

@RC: Below are the last 5,000 changes in the last 7 days, as of 19:25, 11 January 2009. Just change the number in the link (limit=number).

Temahk 17:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

There was more i considered writing for the sitenotice, but i wanted to keep it short. There are other safe websites like Wikipedia that we allow and some unsupported sites. I wrote it mostly as a warning due to the recent mass vandalism on quest pages, since they linked to outside sites that were dangerous. Personally i think tibia.pl is fine, but it is understandable if we discontinue all links there. Bennie, when you adjust the recent changes limit, you can also change it in the url to larger numbers (i.e. ) like Temahk said. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 17:36, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Ok, thanks (could have figured that out myself, feeling a bit dumb right now). ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 20:25, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

I agree that we should make some standards on block durations, blocking for year(s) for a minor act of vandalism which people might accidentally do isn't encouraging people to come contribute. -- Sixorish 10:23, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

or
I noticed that some admins use, I would know what is the difference between and  ?

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 19:31, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

The  closes the tag without any contents. on the other hand leaves the tag open, but still causes no harm (but may not be friendly with (X)HTML validators..), think of as good practice of using X(HT)ML syntax. The difference is minimal; since the wiki software generates  automatically even if just is used. -- Sixorish 20:11, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

But I think is wrong, only is good, isn't it? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 07:58, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

There's no reason for them to be any different, the whitespace does nothing but make the source look a little prettier. (inserted some nowiki tags in your message so I don't look weird) @Wikipedia section "Common errors": Not closing empty elements (elements without closing tags in HTML4). Incorrect:. Correct: . Note that any of these are acceptable in XHTML:, '''  and ''' -- Sixorish 08:11, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Kinda bad eddits by NeWsOfTzzz
Am worried that NeWsOfTzzz don't care what I say in his User talk:NeWsOfTzzz about the data he lost or the bad edditeds on some monster when he did the "(Removing deprecated parameters)", and he has not fixed those mistakes nor seems to actnoledge he did a mistake. Is there a way to force him to recheck his eddits and make him fix the errors or should I just undo all his "(Removing deprecated parameters)" he did cause the ones I check he lost data (monster immune to something now it does not say it anymore) or the data changed to be missleading. (mosters where inmune to something now says its neutral) Kwigon the sharpshooter 03:06, 24 January 2009 (UTC)