User talk:Whitelaces/Archive 2008/02


 * 1) Templary Vandal
 * 2) Presunto &amp; Kzangetsu vandal report
 * 3) PorrandoCaraleo
 * 4) Classing
 * 5) HTML Tables
 * 6) Ferman1234 Vandal
 * 7) Vandalreport Abedaboutaleb
 * 8) Vandal report Crark
 * 9) Infobox NPC
 * 10) TavinBot_TypeLists
 * 11) Javascripts
 * 12) bug on invisibility

Templary Vandal
The user Templary ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary.

I want to report a vandel on the Tibia Tales Quest/Spoiler. I'll try to redo the editing he did when i got time later this day. Or else you or someone else with more time.

Sincerely, User:Proudelm

I reverted to the version before his edits, and I left a warning on his talk page.

--'' Vorrei un po' di carne rosso, per favore. '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 14:13, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

ok, nice. I saw a lot of vandalisme today on the wiki. Is there a possibility to check if there all the same IP and if so, ban it?  "What you can do today, can also be done tomorrow.:)" - a Dutchie Ragon Avron | Talk 14:20, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Presunto & Kzangetsu vandal report
The user Presunto ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary.

The user Kzangetsu ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary.

Sincerely, Wilk

Thanks for the reports, Wilk. I left warnings on their talk pages.

-- Fac ut gaudeam  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 20:03, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

PorrandoCaraleo
The user PorrandoCaraleo ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary. Hi,

this user made a page about nothing, i tried to delete it, but i cant seem to. I marked it for deletion. he also made offensive language on it. I removed it.

Please, inform me if i can somehow delete pages? Im active during the day when not many are. I would like to help make this wiki clear of vanadals.:)

Sincerely,  "What you can do today, can also be done tomorrow.:)" - a Dutchie Ragon Avron | Talk 12:13, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

The warning on his talk page is sufficient for now. If it continues, then he'll be blocked from editing. Art deleted the page for you. You have to have sysop privileges on the wiki to delete items. I think you handled it very well. Thanks!

--'' Neutiquam erro. '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 15:24, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. I try to check during the day (atleast for me), so i see most vanadals quit soon and can take actions.. I will just mark for deletion then.:)  "What you can do today, can also be done tomorrow.:)" - a Dutchie Ragon Avron | Talk 15:29, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Classing
Hi Whitelaces, I got a question about classifiying items/objects. Some objects could be placed in 2 object classes. E.g. a Wall Lamp could be on Wall Hangables and in Illumination. If you but two lines with those 2 object classes on the object page the dpl table will only read out one of them. I think I understand why, it's like with CSS, the cascading arguments (which is stronger) will be followed, e.g. if body says background-color: white and table says background-color: red the table argument will be followed because it's stronger. Is there a way to put 1 object in two classes? Thanks in advance,

^^  &ordm; Bennie &ordm;  &curren; Talk &curren; &ordm; My Contributions &ordm;  ^^ 15:14, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

It's actually based on the article categories. I added a "secondarytype" parameter to the object template, you can look at the wall lamp page to see how to add it to other object pages, when necessary.

This is very similar to how the Items template works, but without a lot of the other "bells and whistles". If I get around to it, I'll add the lists on the right and some other things to make them more alike.

-- Tibi gratias agimus quod nihil fumas  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 15:22, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

HTML Tables
Hi,

im trying to make a image the background of a table, take a look here. This works for html, but not here. Is it even possible? Let me know if you know any thing more. Thanx.  "What you can do today, can also be done tomorrow.:)" - a Dutchie Ragon Avron | Talk 13:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I also tried that at one time (when I was re-writing the main page), and I discovered that it is, sadly, not possible. Because it could be a very large security hole, the wiki parser will not allow it. It will either remove background declaration, or it will convert it to literal text (depending on how you try to set the background).

The closest that a normal user will be able to come, is setting the class on the table, and editing their user css to set the background image.

-- Fac ut nemo me vocet  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 14:04, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, thank for the clerification. I was trying to update the Skills template close to the 'real' thing. Sadly, but so. Maby some day.....  "What you can do today, can also be done tomorrow.:)" - a Dutchie Ragon Avron | Talk 14:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Ferman1234 Vandal
The user Herman1234 ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary.

Sincerely, User:Kwigon the sharpshooter

I left a message on his talk page.

--'' Omnis Minervae homo Petronius. '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 13:36, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Vandalreport Abedaboutaleb
The user Abedaboutaleb ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary. Maybe whe should delete this page (Forum:Index).

Sincerely, User:Bennie

Looks like he was just goofing off. I left a message on his talk page.

About deleting the forum, I don't know if we should yet. Forums definitely act differently than wikis, and serve a different purpose. Maybe it would be a good idea to couple a forum with the wiki to facilitate community among the wiki users. Then again, maybe it would confuse people about how the wiki should be used, and may cause a lot of people to start treating the wiki like a forum... I don't know.

-- <span title="(latin) Always wear underwear on your head.">Semper ubi sububi in caput tuum  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 13:40, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Vandal report Crark
The user Crark ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary.

Sincerely, User:Kwigon the sharpshooter


 * Thank you for reporting, but I don't think it's needed as he has been reverting his edits. I have a feeling it's a new guy simply testing the wiki features. If he starts vandalising again, but without putting all together afterwards, we'll block him.


 * →  &#171; Alreth &#187; ' &#171; Talk &#187; ' &#171; Contributions &#187;  ← 22:30, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Infobox NPC
Hi Whitelaces, I got a question. The situation now forces to manually add a link for the npc pictures on their page. I think the NPC pictures should be included in their infobox. I want to have it looked like items or objects infoboxes. I tried something on my testpage but it didn't quite worke out very well. I know you are busy but maybe you could take a look at it and change the Template:Infobox NPC (since it is protected). Thanks in advance,

^^  &ordm; Bennie &ordm; <span style="font-variant: small-caps;background-color:purple; color:yellow; font-weight:bold" title="Talk page of Bennie"> &curren; Talk &curren; <span style="font-variant: small-caps;background-color:white; color:green; border:orange; font-weight:bold;" title="Credits Page"> &ordm; Credits &ordm; ^^ 18:38, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

TavinBot_TypeLists
I don't know how wiki bots work, but yours seems to have an error. It is listing Avalanche on Template:Arena_Bosses_List and Template:Cryo-Elementals_List when it should be Avalanche (Creature). Think you could fix it?


 * →  &#171; Alreth &#187; ' &#171; Talk &#187; ' &#171; Contributions &#187;  ← 22:23, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

All of my bots are actually disabled since we implemented DPL2. All pages can just me manually edited for errors, or better yet, converted to use DPL2.

--'' <span title="(latin) Say, you sure are drinking a lot.">Re vera, potas bene. '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 22:25, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Now that I look at it, that page is not even used anymore. The creature and items infoboxes now have embedded DPL lists where these template lists once were.

-- <span title="(latin) Yes, that is a very large amount of corn.">Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est.  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 22:27, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I got no idea what DPL is. I'm not as advanced in wiki coding as you are and haven't been active here the past year or so. :-P


 * →  &#171; Alreth &#187; ' &#171; Talk &#187; ' &#171; Contributions &#187;  ← 22:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

DPL is actually very cool, and has relieved a lot of the maintenance requirements for this wiki.

The documentation for it can be found here: http://semeb.com/dpldemo/index.php?title=Dynamic_Page_List

-- <span title="(latin) Thank you for not smoking">Tibi gratias agimus quod nihil fumas  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 22:38, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I feel like a cave man when I visit the wiki nowdays with all these new cool DPLs, bots and template stuff. ^^ I remember the good old days when we actually did all the work ourselves. ;-)


 * →  &#171; Alreth &#187; ' &#171; Talk &#187; ' &#171; Contributions &#187;  ← 22:42, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Javascripts
Is it possible to use javascripts on the wiki in some way? I was looking at the Route: Demona and those maps are horrible. So I made a new bit it's quite large and best viewed using a javascript which replaces the images, enabling you to go down or up a floor in the map. You can have a look at it here http://tibia.rookira.se/demona. Maybe add the function to the wiki header and then have a template or something to use it? As mentioned before my wiki skills are very basic.


 * →  &#171; Alreth &#187; ' &#171; Talk &#187; ' &#171; Contributions &#187;  ← 01:05, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

There's not an easy way to add javascript, but there are a few options.

First of all, that page you linked to can be easily accomplished without javascript, and simply using multiple articles and adding links between them.

To actually implement some javascript, one of the admins can add some site-wide script, but all events would need to be "attached" in script, since the wiki parser would strip out any attempts to add javascript on individual tags. Doable, but a little more complicated.

The last thing that comes to mind, is writing a custom MediaWiki extension (the thing is a custom extension that uses javascript). This is more advanced, but I think it could be great if we have a few developers that would be willing to spend the time writing up a "real" javascript map viewer. Once it gets going, then I'm sure there would be wider interest from other gaming communities as well.

Anyway, those are the options that come to mind at the moment.

-- <span title="(latin) My dog ate it">Canis meus id comedit  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 16:13, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

bug on invisibility
Hey Whity, I just got killed by 2 Vampires, apparently they can see Invisibility. Although they are listed wrong on that page. It's a dpl-list so I can't manually change it. Could you fix it? Kind Regards,

^^  &ordm; Bennie &ordm; <span style="font-variant: small-caps;background-color:purple; color:yellow; font-weight:bold" title="Talk page of Bennie"> &curren; Talk &curren; <span style="font-variant: small-caps;background-color:white; color:green; border:orange; font-weight:bold;" title="Credits Page"> &ordm; Credits &ordm; ^^ 14:39, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

I fixed the list, and made it like a table. I had to remove the list of creatures not able to see invisible, since there isn't a real simple way to make that list without making the page take a LONG time to load. I'd spend some more time trying to figure it out, but I don't have time right now.

-- <span title="(latin) Behold the power of cheese">Ecce potestas casei  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 16:07, 27 February 2008 (UTC)