Talk:Achievements/Archive 4

Why replace the text "Secret" for Images?
Seriously, I can't see any reason why gif images would be better than plain text. I think a lot of people enjoy checking what new secret achievement someone just got and it was as easy as scrolling over the content section looking for the "(secret)" text or just using the Find feature of any browser.

Now all the "(secret)" texts were replaced by a gif image which makes it just impossible to do that and you have to look in a 600 lines page (and growing!) looking for an image which tries to hide from you between pink spoiler blocks.

Also, achievements will be added every update from now on, so it would need a better way to display all that information very soon.

Lets start the discussion! What do you guys think about that? :)

Wily Wonkas 23:08, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Images look nice but u r right, it is harder to look for the secret achievements with images. With or without images I think achievements need to be split by secret/no secret. I guess that split by points, secret and grade would make page harder to read so. I would say that we split and sort as in tibia.com, split by grade use image for secret achievements and use different naming in the titles like: Bearhugger 1P, Jamjam 5P (Secret)

Will comment later if I get another better idea. --Daniel Letalis 23:23, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

I propose make the Achievements page like the Quests page, with a brief explanation of what is a achievement, and a list of all the achievements (maybe a table DPL? whith the achievement, points, secret or no, etc).

And make one page for every achievement, and put the spoiler like in the quests pages. For example, the ministrel achievement, its harder to go to the ancient tombs quest page, and after find the vasherasum part, and then go to the tomb. In the ministrel achievement page we can put only the location of the tomb, how u must play the instruments, and where is the NPC just in case you have troubles getting the achievement. And we can put tips in the single pages, for example, for the achievement of fly 1000 times in the carpet, you can use the route darashia-edron (just 30gps with postman) Sez The Withe 05:19, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe put everything in table? It will be much more easier to read.

Leree 23:00, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think a separate page for each achievement is necessary. After all, getting each achievement requires only the completion of certain parts of quests or performing one action numerous times. I agree, though, that having (Secret) next to the title would make it easier to search for achievements in the TOC. Kharzad Ironfist 17:48, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but there are also some achievements more complicated, see Ministrel, where is the NPC? and the garden?, or poet laurate, where is the book? how you will put those instructions on the achievements page? Sez The Withe 17:59, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

The less text used, the better. The page is already too clumsy to navigate well. Minstrel isn't complicated at all: The only information needed is that one needs to play the instruments to access Vashresamun's chamber. If absolutely necessary, there can be a link to the spoiler on the The Ancient Tombs Quest/Spoiler to the portion on his tomb. There's no reason to have repeated information on a page if that content already exists on another. Poet Laureate seems to do a good job already, a couple links to map locations and to the book in quest, and it looks easy enough to keep in a couple sentences.

Getting rid of the TOC would help, too. It is over 3 pages long in my notebook's browser. On another topic, using charts would probably make the page easier to use. Considering the page has no text content other than the achievements and their descriptions, it'd make sense. The problem is that charts are really boring with pictures, e.g. (text continues after the table) This probably isn't a great chart, but I'm not too good with wiki markup.

The current achievements page prints to 14 8.5*11 inch pieces of paper. That's with the spoilers hidden. It's 26 pages long with the spoilers revealed. Considering the actual amount of content is very low, that's not a good use of vertical space. The spoilers are the only real content (the descriptions are listed on Tibia.com for most achievements, after all) and this content makes up less than half of the page's size. Just some thoughts. Kharzad Ironfist 18:17, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

First, youre wrong! Ministrel needs you to talk with one NPC, i did without the talk, but others players only won the achievement after talk with The Crone. So, you must put that in the spoiler. And in The Ancient Tombs Quest there is none reference to this, or references to the book for Poet Laurate.

Second, we should put tips for achievements. Like "Edron Cormaya" is te cheapest way to obtain "Ships Kobold", and this becomes the page more long.

Third, every update will be more achievements, and the page will become longer and longer...

Sez The Withe 18:37, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Really? The current spoiler for Minstrel just has playing the instruments listed. Anyway, do you really think a page with the content "Take the Edron-Cormaya boat 1000 times" makes sense? There are currently 93 achievements. The content for each page would be a couple sentences, at most. There's no legitimate reason for 93 'stubs' to flood the wiki. Tips? Do you really think they're necessary? How many achievements would need them and how many players who are able to complete the quest would actually need the tip? If they're premium and experienced enough to afford the trips, it shouldn't be hard for them to figure it out. What I'm saying is that because of the length of the page, every possible effort should be made to minimize its length, not the opposite. It's bad page design, especially when over 50% of the content is copied directly from publicly available information on tibia.com. I don't think any achievement currently listed would require more than one long sentence or two short/medium sentences to spoil the entire process. Kharzad Ironfist 18:58, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

How about making one page for Grade 1 achievements, one page for Grade 1 secret achievements, one page for Grade 2 achievements and so on?

Nevaran 19:01, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'd go with Nevaran's idea. There's plenty of information that can be wrote about the achievements alone and what is wrote there now should be rewrote anyway (hence the review). Putting the grades of achievements onto separate pages would make it easier to read and will prevent all the messing about of creating separate pages for each achievement. Beejay 19:31, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

I have just made the pages Achievements Grade 1, Achievements Grade 2 and Achievements Grade 3. About the TOC, I think it should remain on the pages, when the lists get bigger it makes it much easier to find what you are looking for, besides, you can hide the table of contents. I'm not sure about the table being appropriate.

The table you made Kharzad is fine, but some quests may indeed need bigger spoilers, in that way, either the description part would need to be shorter or leave them with a rather large spoiler sticking out. Then again, we could just have a list of the achievements without the spoilers on the achievements page, and link to them on their corresponding page, e.g. Achievements Grade 1, or something. Beejay 20:25, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

How about put grades in different tables(eg. big font "grade 1", table, big font "grade 2", table ...)? This page is really big and a bit unreadable. Leree 07:44, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Aww, it's ugly now. Maybe instead of that "click here for spoiler...", put there a small text or graphics which will link to a popup window with spoiler. Also we can add another column to that table: required level. Also, instead of digit in 'Grade' column, there should be graphics with stars, like on tibia.com. Crystalix 14:26, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

I don't like the new look of achievements page, old one was way better - SIGMA

I didn't know this was controversial at all, I obviously should have asked first. I posted a poll on the Main Page, which will help us decide whether to keep the new look or get the old one back. Please post any ideas for improvement. Using stars instead of digits for the grading is possible, I will take a look tomorrow. A popup for the spoiler is... too hard for me, but maybe somebody else can make that. Although there might be other (better) ideas to make the spoilers more attractive/easier to read. Another column with required lvl is feasible, but seems a little unneccesary for me, since this info can also be seen at the coresponding quest page (and if you don't have to do a quest for the achievement the lvl required is usually 0). ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 15:42, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

I like it..But I think the width of the collumn containing the spoiler is too narrow, that, and the spoiler template looks too big and messes up the table. Perhaps another spoiler template could be used to help make this look more attractive? Beejay 16:14, September 20, 2010 (UTC)  Craggles  ಠ_ಠ  Talk ∙ Contribs  20:00, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed a couple of things

Added the stars, Craggles: your thing works perfectly well :D I wonder though, if the css code "display: none" would work too (depends on if the text only gets hidden from the viewer or also become non-readable in the source). That would probably be a "cleaner coding fix" (although I have absolutely no right to judge such a thing). ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 21:36, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

 Craggles  ಠ_ಠ  Talk ∙ Contribs  08:35, September 21, 2010 (UTC)  Craggles  ಠ_ಠ  Talk ∙ Contribs  08:40, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll give it a go. I would prefer it rather than my code. Also could we add ticks and crosses for premium? I like colour and I like the tick cross system.
 * Looks like it worked.

Ok, that's cool! I'm ok with a tick/cross system, dunno about everybody else. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 09:03, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

It looks much better now! One little thing is that the ticks and crosses are not exactly sortable, I could see people wanting to sort these by that as well. Beejay 12:06, September 21, 2010 (UTC)  Craggles  <span style="align:right;background:#FFFFFF; border:1px solid #000091; padding:1px; margin-left:0px; font-size:90%;border-left:0px">ಠ_ಠ <span style="background:#DBDBDB; border:1px solid #000091; border-left:0px; padding:1px; margin-right:6px; font-size:90%;"> <font color="#6e86ff">Talk ∙ <font color="#6e86ff">Contribs  16:05, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * My bad, forgot to add sorting when I updated it. Bennie fixed that though.

Good work guys, looks much better now :) Crystalix 12:08, September 21, 2010 (UTC) <span style="align:right;background:#FFFFFF; border:1px solid #000091; padding:1px; margin-left:4px; font-size:90%;"> Craggles  <span style="align:right;background:#FFFFFF; border:1px solid #000091; padding:1px; margin-left:0px; font-size:90%;border-left:0px">ಠ_ಠ <span style="background:#DBDBDB; border:1px solid #000091; border-left:0px; padding:1px; margin-right:6px; font-size:90%;"> <font color="#6e86ff">Talk ∙ <font color="#6e86ff">Contribs  11:48, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Anyone know why the secrets image won't align properly vertically. For some reason it does on hericibe, but it's too high on all the other entries. Wierd.

I've never actually noticed that.. Unfortunately I have no idea on how to fix it either..

The new way: I like how you get more achievements into one space. I'm still not a big fan of the spoiler, when opening it creates a huge gap for the achievements description and that doesn't look attractive.

The old way: I'm not sure why but I still like this way a lot.. Maybe I just don't think a table is right for TibiaWiki, even if I can think of more positives to the table. Think I am going to have to think a bit more on this, still kind of prefer the old messier way. Beejay 02:53, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

The poll ended: TibiaWiki:Poll/Week 38, 2010. I think enough people voted in favor, so we will keep the new lay out. Still, there is always room for improvement! ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 20:03, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Animal Activist
Everyone who has it, doesn't know why and everyone doesn't have it, wants it! Anyone have any ideas? User:jigarbov

Maybe the mission for scatterbrained sorcerer where you should kill bats but not hurt the kittens?

Nevaran 18:42, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

No, a guy on my server has it and he's was far too high level to do any eclesius tasks when he was added. we can also rule out the cattle/warbeasts from yalahar. I have also completed the baby seal mission in svargrond and dont have it. User:jigarbov

There are not achievements in quests with maximum lvl requeriment (like Eclesius Quest), so, it must be another quest, but i already have it with my 2 main chars, so i cant test another quests

Have you tried the mission 5 of the ice islands quest? Nibelor: Cure the Dogs Maybe you get it in that mission. Sez The Withe 21:42, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Ice_Islands_Quest/Spoiler#Nibelor_5:_Cure_the_Dogs

I've completed all Ice islands so it can't be that either. starting to run out of ideas. User:jigarbov

Well, if you have lot of quest done, i can try using elimination between your quest and my quests, if u want, post in my talk page all the quest u have completed, and i will give u some ideas. Sez The Withe 14:12, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I figured it out, kill a husky, then pay for it. I didn't realise I had killed a husky but when I paid for it I got the achievement. User:jigarbov

I've completed all quest(without Killing in the Name of... Quest and The Demon Oak Quest) I had killed a husky and paid for it but i didn't got an achievement. As jigarbov wrote maybe i have chosen wrong site in yalahar quest. User:Leree

You have to say 'Cattle' in 5th mission of In Service of Yalahar quest instead of 'Warbeasts'. But probably it is not all, you have to have other quests too.

Who did you pay? I paid mine at the guy by the dog sled. it happened immeditatley after i said "yes" when he said "I heard you were killing huskys and now you have to pay 500 gold" So I am sure that killing/paying for a husky is at least part of it. Cheyanna said that the cattle/warbeast mission has nothing to do with this achievement. She said "if that was possible, all the people that chose warbeast couldn't get this achievement. which is incorrect" I can't really think of any other requirements. maybe you have to use hams on the dog sleds some times or something? User:jigarbov

I don't know. I've chosen palimuth's way(cattle) in this mission. I've killed huskies few times and wasted 5k for payments. I still don't have this achievement Leree

I think that killing animals is exactly the opposite of the achievement description. The only tasks I can think of that fit the description are healing the wounded dog in the Ice Islands Quest, and some or all portions of the druid addons quests. Kharzad Ironfist 20:04, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

I would try the mission where you must paint baby seals, from the The Ice Islands Quest, MaveAntica 20:14, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

I don't have any addon on my main character and he unlucked the animal activist, so I am not sure what do u need to do obtain that achievement. Juan Ariel 20:13, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

I can confirm: In Service of Yalahar or the Druid addons are NOT necesary for this achievement. The problem is i dont know what its necesary xD Sez The Withe 21:17, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

The Shattered Isles Quest/Spoiler. Case closed. :) Beejay 19:07, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

I got the achievement after paying for the husky, and I had done the tortoise egg thing before, so I guess this achievement requires different things to be done. MaveAntica 19:29, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Erm.. Then I shall readd that! For some reason I had blanked that part of the discussion out of my mind. Beejay 19:34, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, when I think about this achievement, I know for a fact that I have never paid for killing a husky, yet I have the achievement thanks to the "account achievements". So I am not sure which character I have this achievement on, but I can only assume that it is from one of two or both characters which have done the turning in of the Tortoise Egg from Nargor. Beejay 23:35, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's only for The Shattered Isles Quest/Spoiler but if you have killed husky you simply won't get achievement until you pay for the loss... W miki 00:39, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

I painted the seals, gave Striker the egg, and have no outstanding doggy debts and I do not have the achievement, so there's probably something else. I haven't actively played since a bit before Yalahar was released, so there might be something additional in Yalahar, Farmine, Beregar, or Zao that is animal-related and necessary as I have completed just about every level <=50 quest through and including Svargrond. Kharzad Ironfist 01:16, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

I really think this achievement is obtained through a quest from Svargrond. Why that? I have it in both main characters of mine, and one has not even started the The Shattered Isles Quest/Spoiler, still both have already done up to the mission after the one you have to destroy that ship in Tyrsung. Yea, I have never killed a husky before, but as you guys told, it doesn't matter. You just have to pay for it and then this achievement appears somehow :p User:Lu Ajudante

Maybe there are other ways of obtaining this achievement then. I got it immediately after giving the egg to Duncan and never killed a husky on the same char. A friend had done the egg mission and only got the achievement after paying for the huskies he had killed in the past. XCedric 23:38, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Its impossible to update the list
Lots if hidden achievements, including His True Face and the one with plants and it's impossible to update the list.

What is happenning? Those green symbols is ruining everything. -.-'

Besides I know how many points Of Wolves and Bears, Fool at Heart and Hunting in Style awards and it's still with "?" on it!

What do you mean with "the one with plants"? DreadElder 19:14, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

I don't get what green symbols you're talking about, or why it's impossible to update the page. I can edit it just fine.

In any case, why don't you post any information you have here? Somebody else will add it into the article if needed be.

Old Rush Wood 19:41, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

If you have any problems with editing use This Template replace " " for informations and paste it to achievements list. Note: Remember about table codes " " works as another wiki codes. Leree 13:05, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Just write the spoilers here and we'll fix them in for you.

Ardami 15:49, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Sort type
Is there any method to auto sort achievements as by clicking arrows symbol on 1)name 2)grade (see: On first screen we have original coded achievements list, On second one we have sorted by name but not by grade, on third screen we have sort by name and grade) Leree 20:41, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Noo, its good now, sorted by points and name. You can always sort like you wish. Crystalix 00:46, October 2, 2010 (UTC)

Undertaker
Ok so I heard about this achievement, you supposedly have to use your shovel around 500 times, I haven't done it, dunno if it has to be holes or if you can dig in the sand. Maybe if this one's real, there's another one for using rope x amount of times? If anyone does it let us know. DreadElder 21:01, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Heard of it as well. Actually testing right now. Think opening tomb holes work? Momo! 22:40, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Do you know if using squeezing gear of girlpower, works aswell or only with normal or light shovel? The revenger 22:51, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I only know that it's about opening holes, since a friend said it doesn't work digging in the sand, so probably it's about opening holes i suppose light shovel and the other stuff works too but I can't tell for sure. DreadElder 22:57, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

All tools works, as well as light shovel. You can open stone holes and the big one (rotworms') too. My friend is testing opening holes to tombs. I just added on page all info.Tazi 23:10, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

23:21 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "The Undertaker". So.. anyone up for roping himself 1k times to see if its an achievement? DreadElder 00:42, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

does opening tombs work?Klapauciusrnex 04:24, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

I can't tell, I did it all around poh. DreadElder 06:54, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Tried tombs for quite a while. Nothing so far. Will keep on tho. For like an hour or two more... Momo! 09:56, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, so I'm pretty sure tombs dont work ._.

Does anyone know a place better than poh? There are 17 holes in poh which takes around 5 min to do so when you open the last one the first one closes, but that still makes the whole thing take 2,5h which is a pretty long time to just be running around opening holes. Suggestions? Ardami 15:34, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Does anybody know if there is some place where the hole close after someone step in some switch or sqm? that would be cool The revenger 16:11, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

The best place is still poh, couldnt find anything better.Anatherion 00:51, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

I opened a tomb hole over 500 times and didn't get The Undertaker achievement. Icy Alchemist 13:20, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Bad Timing
Does anyone have any idea for "bad timing" achievement?

Your multifunction tool can jam, making it unusable for a minute. I would guess the achievement is for this happening a number of times. Icy Alchemist 15:05, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

you need to crash 10x your (ex.) squeezing gear of girlpower Arthevariel 15:05, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

19:58 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Bad Timing".

Confirmed x10 times squeezing gear of girlpower. The revenger 18:02, October 7, 2010 (UTC)

Whats the best way to do this achieve? Brandonbaker 02:24, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Using the tool on hotkey (use on yourself) then spamm hotkey easy The revenger 11:45, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

It's that possible? i mean, doesnt matther the "You cannot use this object" message? &raquo; Sez ~ Talk &laquo; 17:02, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Yes it is, I went to training dummies and put "use on target" and just went afk, it worked. DreadElder 17:48, October 8, 2010 (UTC)

Ye its working, aslong as it apears the message of "using the last squeezing~" its working The revenger 18:16, October 8, 2010 (UTC) Siamix

Moon Walker
14:03 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Moon Walker".

Ok thats cool and how you got it? The revenger 12:12, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

fake

Calango 18:48, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Mysterious Machinery
One person on Nova got it.

I think this is for entering mysterious machine (near zao carpet) x times

Could you simply sign the sentences please? just write x4 of ~

Ok thats cool and how you got it?The revenger 12:12, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Ok been trying to teleport with this mysterious machine 300 times at least, been trying aswell to turn on and off the machine for another 300 times, nothing happenThe revenger 12:43, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Who has it?

Andarist 17:50, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

It could be for using the machine to get into one of the elemental spheres. Or maybe even for the machines at the lord of the elements.

Nevaran 18:50, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

What about the Mysterious Machine in the Alchemist Quarter at the Demon or somewhere close by? Isn't there one where you use a leaver and sacrafice Demonic Essences to be changed into a Diabolical Imp? Beejay 19:41, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Don't even bother solving this achievement, before this guy will prove it. You're just wasting your time. It's fake, if it was true, he would give us a name of the player, not just "one person on nova". SIGMA 20:30, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

Forcefield Master
14:03 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Forcefield Master".

Obtained by entering tp ~3000 times.

Okey, what kind of teleport, there are many kinds, which exactly u entered The revenger 12:14, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

you used the teleport where?

I used tp in zao steps (coumple tp)

Oke so prove it, display it in your tibia character and write here which char are you playing at. The revenger 12:51, October 9, 2010 (UTC)

I trying enter tp at zao stepts.

50 minuts non stop entering and nothing. At 226 Level ED. Bali

The user Achievements Maniac is posting fake achievements, guys don't bother trying them until he gives proof to them. DreadElder 16:32, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Its true achievement (I mean mysterious machinery ;D) not forcefield. wrong thread but machinery is true !!!Achievements Maniac 14:24, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

prove it, or nobody will believe you SIGMA 14:40, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

Green Thumb
a player of Danera, name Din Gray get this, anyone know?Doug 18:00, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

watering plants x timesDoug 19:08, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

"the one with plants" = Watering the flower pots X times. But it's only a rumour, hasn't been confirmed yet.

Now it has been confirmed.

I have 5 flower pots with still-alive Plants - I guess it'll take a long while for me to get it, since I see many people with 20+ on their houses and they still didn't get it.

I'd say 250 times.

Comment left by User:Smokey1: player of Trimera, name Suzyk get this,

Don't change other peoples comments please, there's plenty of space to write here your own! Beejay 10:21, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

12:01 Suzyk [192]: i have green thumb 12:01 Coo on Trimera [1]: yes, how did you get it? :) 12:02 Suzyk [192]: simply watering them i guess about 300 time 12:02 Suzyk [192]: more or less

there you go :)

EslamK 09:07, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

i watered my plants about 300x times more and i didn't get it

By: User:Kadabra100

Sorry i'm new here there is an option where i can edit posts if someone made it maybe it was made to be used?

i was just trying to help as you can see a few minutes after i gave that name you got some good information

~just trying to help

That's true and thank you! :) However, there's really no need to change other peoples comments though, changing articles is good but as this is only a place for discussions and opinions, there may be the chance of removing someone else's good views on something. Beejay 11:18, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

ok, just remind that i did not erase i only added, but i will avoid editing as you requested.

Im getting how this works better

thank ya

Smokey1 11:35, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Asked her about the disc

she said:

18:33 Suzyk [192]: If someone gives you seeds, you usually grow a beautiful plant from it within a few days. You like your house green and decorated with flowers. Probably you also talk to them.

EslamK 15:35, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Interior Decorator
This achievement is also Avialable for Free account players (iv'e done it myself)

~Vapaus

Bluberian
20:10 Tomurka on Refugia [1]: Hiho, im coming from Candia. 20:10 Tomurka on Refugia [1]: Could you tell me how many ice cream you need to eat to get this achievement Blueberien ? 20:13 Tomurka on Refugia [1]: maybe you can tell me if you eat only a blue ice creams ? 20:13 Tomurka on Refugia [1]: :]] 20:14 Slime Slayer [79]: yes 20:14 Tomurka on Refugia [1]: More then 200 ? 20:14 Tomurka on Refugia [1]: :] 20:14 Slime Slayer [79]: you will find out 20:14 Tomurka on Refugia [1]: where do you found so many ice creams 20:14 Tomurka on Refugia [1]: lol 20:14 Slime Slayer [79]: secret :P

Kilava Onas 08:10, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Oh no! They realised we got this achievement! Viedzminium 19:02, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

any player making any test?

i eat 16-17 ice cream blue :s

maybe 20 ? Javieraoc

You get it by using 500 times a blue berry bush, easy. The revenger 19:44, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Spoiler completed (good luck with eating ice creams - LOL). Tazi 07:14, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Where is a good place to get this? and what is the respawn time on a blueberry? 30 mins? Cardea 03:14, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

1 hour for blueberry respawn Calango 11:46, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

My suggestion - Greenshore. Theres like 30 bushes here, west from the actual living area, in the fields Momo! 15:57, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

i making in thais-carlin-edron-cormaya-Greenshore-isle of knight

are 80 spawn! Javieraoc

16:46 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Bluebarian". //completed i were making the route from isle of kings behind of the building there are 12 bushes, then walking from carling to ab'dendriel there are alot of bushes, then going to thais there are aswell alot, and you finish on greenshore where there are quite alot of blueberys bushes, didnt check cormaya neither edron but i guess there might be alot aswell The revenger 15:52, October 31, 2010 (UTC)

Commitment Phobic
have it in his achievements. Probably for getting divorce 5 times. Tazi 15:21, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

Nevermind :P. Spoiler completed. Tazi 16:51, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

I just have a question...

If i marry 5 times with the same person, and i make the divorce the 5 times... who wins the achievements?

Both players or just the one who pays the divorces?

&raquo; Sez ~ Talk &laquo; 17:18, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

After I asked some players that have made it seems its after 3 divorces but those made by you only count. Tazi 19:08, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

'''17:48 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Commitment Phobic"'''. Proven, it's 3 divorces. Changing it in the article Momo! 15:50, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

I won't get this "achievement". I'm married for more than 6 months!! Thats a long time and I wouldn't divorce just to get those, Cip is being untoughtful when they implement that one.

My suggestion is 2 achievements, 1 for being married and another for divorcing X times (3 on this case). And you can only get one.

If you get married; you get the married one - if you divorced X times to get the other; the one you had when you were married goes annulated. It awards the same points and you can only have 1 activated on the same character. Klauss ad 07:52, October 31, 2010 (UTC)