Talk:Administrator Team

Welcome
Feel free to discuss things among admins. Ask things to admins, propose new ideas etc. Reporting a vandal can also be perfectly done here, but is not really the intention of this page. Also note that this page doesn't have the same function as TibiaWiki talk:Community Portal.

Loot Calculator
I have uploaded that loot calculator, as mentioned here to some free webhost, being AwardSpace. The calculator can be accessed on tibiacalc.awardspace.info. The spamfilter is blocking it, so I can't directly link to it. This is just a quick free host I found, which seems to do the job so far. I have also edited the file on my server to redirect to the new link.

I am not sure if people will use it, even if you post it on some Help page (Help:Loot Statistics or something). I can give any admin that wants it full access to the account on AwardSpace, as its only purpose is to host that one script. And if it doesn't get used.. Well, I had some hours of fun creating it :)

Temahk 09:27, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, AwardSpace was unavailable this afternoon, so I also uploaded it to another host, lol. Apart from the downtime, the script doesn't work properly on AwardSpace when it comes to bigger log files.

Have a look at http://tibiacalc.vndv.com/, which now includes a TOC (looks stolen from Bennie :D). Not sure what the limit of lines is, but 37K lines worked on my connection. Scripts can execute during 30 seconds, which includes uploading. So slow connections cannot use big log files. Or at least, thats how I understood it from some testing today.

Temahk 20:25, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Tibia article at Wikipedia
If Anyone feels like updating the info there and making shure all is ok? Also if some one can make a beautiful screenshot of a Paladin hurting a dragon/dragon lord (howing fire wave and showing the palading doing harm to the dragon), so we can use it on wikipedia, they have a very old tibia version screenshot and is not good... people will think this game sux by looking at those grapics. Also did they change the link to the old tibia wiki to the new tibia wiki? --Kwigon the sharpshooter 21:15, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Vandal:Pdrino
The user Pdrino ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary. I've already undone his edits, tough those sites should be watched.

Sincerely, User:Xomoda

Bennie has blocked him and protected those articles, thanks for reporting.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 16:14, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

VANDALISM:Wodofilex
-- the user Wodofilex are editing pages with a false link.

'Don't want to be hacked? Use the official software created by TibiaBR.com and Tibia.wikia.com. This program working in background prevents access to all keylogers. Go to TibiaBR.com and download now, or get it from a direct link www.tibiaBR.com/download/tibiasecurity'

this link is FALSE.. plz, undo the wrong edits and take care of this user. Daniel.7976

The user Wodofilex ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary.

He writes the same text with a link to tibiabr.com on all quest sites.

Sincerely, User:Xomoda

He has been blocked. Thank you for all who noticed and reverted the edits, well done. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 01:52, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Skins
Affff, I was playing with the skings, and now I can't find the old one I was using before, also now each time I want to save something It ask me to make a preview first...(making all 2 times slower) Is there a way to change that? --Kwigon the sharpshooter 01:19, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Check Special:Preferences and preview the different options and see what you had before. The preview is now forced on all users, but it might not work with some of the older skins. This is to remind people to double check for typos and other mistakes. You can email me about this if it still bothers you. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 01:52, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't know I was using the same sking that this wikia have since 3 years ago (I never changed sking), then on other wikia I could not see some info so I changed sking there and now the sking changed here too, anyways the sking thing doesn't bother me much, but I have to get rid of the preview mode (it will slow me down alot). Help me with that, I don't want to be forced to preview. --Kwigon the sharpshooter 03:14, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Buy from/Sell to
If you take a look for example at the page Axe. Rather like many pages, there is little organisation with who buys the item and in what town. I think it should be organised alphabetically by town and then by the npc who buys/sells. Mainly because there are no two npcs with the same name (as far as I know) but in some cases there is more than one npc in the same town that buys/sells for the same price. What do you think? beejay 00:15, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

If it makes you happy, go ahead. I don't have much problems with the current method, since there are usually only ~6 npcs selling it, which can be read quite fast. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 07:11, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Preview/Skin
I dont want to preview before saving eddits -.- I want my old skin, and that sking is not in this wiki, what can I do... This ship is making me crazy and angry --Kwigon the sharpshooter 05:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I understand you are angry about this kwigon, but I think I can do nothing about it atm. I promise I will take a look later how this can be by-passed. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 05:10, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

The old MonoBook skin (I guess this is what you're referring to) has been completely removed and will not come back. Wikia no longer supports this skin and it should not be supported. The skin is outdated and causes more trouble then its worth. Nothing our local admins can do about it. If you feel the need to complain, please use Special:Contact. They won't add the skin, though.

The preview thing is there to enforce you to check your changes. Be it template-wise, be it your spelling. I -always- prefer before saving a page, but this functionality actually annoys me. Nevertheless, I think it's a good functionality and truth be told; you could use it. I know English isn't your first language, but sometimes I get the feeling you aren't even trying to write a proper English sentence. This is not meant as a personal attack, it's just an observation over time.

Temahk 07:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Already got an addon for firefox to fix 99% of my typos, anyways preview my eddits wont change the amount of spelling errors since if I don't know a word I JUST DONT KNOW IT, but when I need for example to remove old templates from monsters I have to do like 2000 eddits on them, it used to take me like 5 minutes for 8 monsters (checking sounds and attacks and strategies) now takes me like 15 because the page has to load again after the preview. To me its slowing me to much. Isen't a way to chose if you want to have that option on? Should be a on and off switch... I use preview button only when I needed, now that its forced I have to use it even if I want to add a dot in the end of a line. (makes angry face) --Kwigon the sharpshooter 12:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Kwigon, every other normal user has to preview and I don't like it either. Especially when it takes double the time undoing vandal's edits, but I live with it like everyone else does. beejay 13:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I just don't understand why I have been here for like 2 and a half years and till now I have to do edits like that, am not used to it, since when is this thing like that? also other wikis does not have this, you can save right away. --Kwigon the sharpshooter 14:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I understand you and I'm the same, but I would usually preview my edits first anyway. I only wish it didnt include rollback edits too. And it's been like this since May, check here as you can see theres already been a discussion about this before. beejay 14:52, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm if I understand well theres a way to by pass the preview, or anyone knows how to do that group "trusted" to add people there so they can edit protected pages and do roll backs and skip the preview thing? --Kwigon the sharpshooter 15:05, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Took me 30 seconds to bypass it the easy way (disable JavaScript..), another 5 minutes to figure out how to disable it without disabling JavaScript. I'm using Opera though, and I'm guessing most of you use Firefox. Been trying for the last 50 minutes in Firefox, but I give up now. Disabling JavaScript is an 'option', though it will render alot of pages useless or ugly and it will disable quite some functionality. GreasyMonkey just doesn't do what Opera can do without addons, so I have no clue how to disable it in Firefox. Might try Chrome tomorrow, just for fun :).

And for crying out loud Kwigon, it's spelled edit.

Temahk 22:52, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't in my home when I posted that, some words my brain can't memorize and I always make the same mistake. Never mind I will wait till the trusted grup is created and I am added to it so I can skip preview XD --Kwigon the sharpshooter 23:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I've modified MediaWiki:Common.js to test permitted users, try clearing your cache and try again. Hopefully I didn't epically screw up, but no promises. -- Sixorish 02:20, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nevermind this, was spitting out errors and it didn't work, clearly. -- Sixorish 03:05, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks I don't have to preview each time to eddit, BIG thanks. --Kwigon the sharpshooter 01:09, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

User:Manjyome Black is probably the next account to vandalize Water Elemental (Helmet of the Deep was already verified several times to block Water Damage). NeWsOfTzzz 07:31, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

always preview
Since 3 days ago i don't have to preview before i edit pages, it is much beter this way, but i don't know if it is right, but i hope so. I usualy preview big changes, only shorts texts and when i "undo" something i don't preview. --Maguu 08:15, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Was caused by an error on my end in the script enforcing the preview, which should now be fixed. You won't notice it, since you have rollback permission. However, others should actually notice it.

Temahk 14:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

undoing edits @admins @rollbackers
Just a reminder: when undoing edits that are mistakes and not vandalism remember that not every user knows about Special:RecentChanges or about page history and edit summary so they may not know why their edit was removed or a page deleted. Please make a habit of leaving them a message on their user talk page explaining it. They will see a note at the top of any page reminding them they have an unseen message. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 19:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC) ''On an unrelated note i think this page should be archived as soon as all present conversations are no longer being discussed. It is too crowded.''

Vandal acount User:Lanon33 he is admiting hacking, buying and selling real money, scaming, and moking at CIP. And yes this page is too long now, it should be archived, its geting slower to edit it. --Kwigon the sharpshooter 17:01, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Set a user edits into the watch list?
Is there a way to add a user to the watch list, so if they contribute again you can see their edit in bolt? This would be useful for people that does 2 or 3 bad edits then stop for like 4 months and comes again and do 2 more bad edits. --Kwigon the sharpshooter 13:34, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

This works the same with user pages as it works with any other page. Go to the desired page, add &action=watch to the end of the url (or if this does not work, click on edit and replace &action=edit by &action=watch). ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 15:26, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

No, you can't watch a user's contributions page. What you can do, though, is add an RSS feed which will list their most recent ones. Link is: http://tibia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&feed=rss&target=username -- Sixorish 15:36, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Includeonly/noinclude
There seems to be a problem with these two tags but I'm not sure why. I just made an edit on The Snapper and it now says "Invalid tag extension name" and then checked another page eg. (previewing without making an edit) and it came up with a similar thing for includeonly, am I the only one seeing this? beejay 14:34, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Odd .. I've fixed Premia, which I thought was because the rich text editor converted (one of) the noinclude tags to use HTML entities instead, but I can't find what was wrong with The Snapper... Commenting a gap between the noinclude and the spoiler tag seemed to fix things, but that doesn't explain why it did that... -- Sixorish 15:25, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Ive got the same problem, I was wanting to edit darashia d lair, and adding new templates was impossible Xomoda (talk~*~rares) 15:46, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I just checked wikia and Uberfuzzy said this:
 * Try changing anything else in the page, even just adding a space or something somewhere, just enough so the hash for the page will change, and the error will go away. The code you have isnt broken, some template somewhere has the error message cached. Also try nullsaving all the templates used on that page.

beejay 17:28, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it has something to do with a new mediawiki version we have (probably)? I see 1.15.1 here (1.14 before?) and rollback links on the RC page. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 20:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I thought that update was meant to happen in september, I just tried with Silver Amulet putting a space inbetween the noinclude and spoiler tags but it didn't work when the page was saved, though it showed up as normal on the preview, I tried purging as well but it made no difference. I wouldn't try editing templates cause I'll probably mess it up somehow, even though they are probably protected so I guess I'll just leave it the way it is. beejay 21:29, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

My user page stop linking to chars on tibia.com
Char template is not working right when I click it i get ---> =character & amp ;name=   instead of    =characters&name=   <--- this works here but my page stop working. Should be--->  http://www.tibia.com/community/?subtopic=characters&name=Chrisy+the+master  But when I click it opens http://www.tibia.com/community/?subtopic=character & amp ; name=Chrisy+the+master (I made spaces so they show up, if I remove them the name looks normal)  This is the page where am having this new problem: http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kwigon_the_sharpshooter/Kwicop_Back_List must be a new problem with my page, links where working and sending me direct to the player name, now they don't. --Kwigon the sharpshooter 02:47, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Your current revision works fine for me, and there's nothing wrong with the template. -- Sixorish 03:29, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Were you previewing when this error occurred? If so, it's probably a fault with the server rendering your page, this isn't a thing we can fix. The Wikia staff know of this problem...
 * 2) Were you logged out of your account when this occurred? If so, it might be a problem with the outbound redirect page they have in place for anons.

Someone reported a tibianews map link not working, I think it has something to do with the outbound page too. Is there a way to bypas it (for a certain domain)? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 06:41, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Still not working in my page, but if I a new create a link to a char in other pages it work, yes I was loged no it was normal view, maybe something changed in the template? --Kwigon the sharpshooter 06:47, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Could you do the following for me: Report any findings if you can't resolve with the above instructions... -- Sixorish 08:02, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) purge the server cache
 * 2) clear your browser's cache (usually: IE, FF, Chrome: Ctrl+F5; Safari:Click 'Reload'; Opera: Tools - Preferences)
 * 3) attempt to edit the page where there are problems - any edit which modifies the content around it, such as adding a space, should work.
 * 4) if the above don't fix it, list a few links which are broken. (I can't find any)
 * 5) find the direct link to which those URLs take you; are they internal (outbound to external) or external (directing straight to the target destination)?

Just tested some stuff, leaving a space in front of the template makes the line gets surrounded around a framed outlined box, making a new char link also works, only old ones stop working, adding a - in front makes them work, I guess I will add a symbol in front to fix it. Maybe the problem happens if you have the char template link to close to the beginning of a line? --Kwigon the sharpshooter 09:39, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Doubt it, see Beejay's second message at above. The only thing which seems odd to me is that not all of the templates were causing this problem (or do they?). -- Sixorish 16:10, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

I don't think is my problem I think is the server problem, I never use  I use  now in my page some or a lot of   changed by themselves into , I check the history and nobody has edited the page but me. That combined to the char template stop working. I think something is wrong with the servers? --Kwigon the sharpshooter 01:49, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

If it was a server problem everybody would see broken links, but I don't see them. Try viewing the page from another computer (e.g. on school/work) and see if it's not working there either. If that does not work I would try contacting Wikia. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 08:14, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

All the links in my page and tibia news links where broken for like 4 days I think, and I think it was caused if the template was the first thing on to the left on a new line. Like I said, they working now and I didn't do a think to fix them. --Kwigon the sharpshooter 15:11, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

It's magic man, magic I tell you!

Temahk 16:23, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

It was a problem with the template, but no, we didn't fix it - we couldn't fix it, because nothing is physically wrong with it. -- Sixorish 19:53, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Book
Can somebody make the text field of a book have the same effect as it would have if it was inside of  ?

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 14:57, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Is there somebody here who knows how to fix the bug in book texts?

The Template:Infobox Book uses Template:Pre, and the result is: only the first and last paragraphs are affected by the special font (Courier New?).

I'm asking to replace the Template:Pre by poem and code tags, or to edit Template:Pre. The poem tag auto-detects a paragraph with no need to use br tags in the text, like the Template:Pre already does. And the code tag gives a special font to the text what seems to be the same used by Template:Pre, however all paragraphs have the same font.

I failed to fix this bug, it's why I'm asking help here.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 18:33, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

New lines act as non-existent whitespaces to the parser and therefore get ignored; there's no way to convert them to any distinguishable characters. We can't automatically have them replaced.... One option, though, is to feed it through regex (excepting with DPL, there is no way we can do this!), which can find end-of-lines. But why does adding &lt;br /&gt; affect you so? -- Sixorish 19:37, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

New lines act as non-existent whitespaces - Template:Infobox Book uses Template:Pre, and it auto-detects a paragraph (or new lines or end-of-lines), like I already said.

I'm suggesting to use poem tag which does the same thing.

It was never the bug (the bug is explained on my last message).

why does adding &lt;br /&gt; affect you so - we do not use &lt;br /&gt; in book texts because it's easier to copy & paste from the game to the wiki without adding &lt;br /&gt; in end-of-lines; removing every new line because it sucks the font; adding poem tags because it can be done in the template in somehow that I don't know yet.

Clarifying: the "bug" is in Template:Infobox Book which is used on book articles, to see the bug just edit (without saving, only previewing) the text field of a book and get it to have more than 2 paragraphs.

And I thought that I was clear enough with my last message...

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 00:44, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, sorry that was totally my bad. Still, your message is vague: do you want all paragraphs of the poem tag to be styled with that font, or is that not the problem? -- Sixorish 02:40, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I'll exemplify from now on...

Currently, a book text looks like this:

Line #1 Line #2 Line #3 Line #4 Last line

As you can see only the first and last lines are affected by the "special" font and detected as new lines (I had not noticed this one before).

If we use poem and code tags, the same book text would look like this:

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 20:01, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

 Dear Muriel! My apprentice behaves strangely lately. I fear he has something evil in mind. He must have stolen the books about necromancy you were missing after our last visit but I have no proof yet. ...

...Your friend, Arcian (technically, this does not use &lt;br&gt; in source, which seems to cause it to break). This font doesn't have to be bold - was using it so that it could be noticed easily.

- none work. Oh .. I see... I think the problem is with the &lt;code&gt; tag, and how browsers render it when there are line breaks in the source? &lt;pre&gt; should be able to render the font properly, while maintaining the line breaks; the only problem is that some articles have line breaks (&lt;br /&gt;) on them, which will need to be removed. -- Sixorish 21:28, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

If I understood you, Template:Pre uses &lt;code&gt; (which is causing the problem) and you have a way to fix the problem by editing Template:Pre which is different of the way I suggested. What is wrong with using &lt;poem&gt; and &lt;code&gt;?

Remember that Template:Pre is only used in book articles (as far as I know) which don't have &lt;br /&gt;.

By the way, &lt;pre&gt; is not the same as Template:Pre.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 22:14, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

The problem, I was wrong about. It's actually Template:Pre forcing the first and last line outside of the paragraph (view page source).

Template:Pre does not contain any line breaks and nor do most of the books which use it. However, every multi-lined book is parsed with line breaks. &lt;pre&gt; explicitly 'tells' the server not to add line breaks - because pre can't contain tags. Clients will render pre as the source is loaded, with whitespace in consideration.

To be honest, nothing is wrong with using poem + code. But, this bug you reported - I cannot reproduce it, at least in the examples you've given. The font is as it should be for me, which leads me to believe that I'm misconstruing your report or you're using a stylesheet which I'm not. Is this a problem with the font of poem+code?

I'm sorry to have you repeat this. -- Sixorish 23:34, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

The font bug depends of the skin you are using (I use CologneBlue).

When I used other skin to check this, I noticed that the &lt;code&gt; tag has a non-transparent background, so I suggest to use only the &lt;poem&gt; tag (there isn't problem with &lt;poem&gt; + &lt;br /&gt; tags).

To see the font bug with Template:Pre: http://tibia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Administrator_Team&useskin=cologneblue#Template:Infobox_Book

Example of a skin that the &lt;code&gt; tag background is not attractive to use: http://tibia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Administrator_Team&useskin=monaco&usetheme=gaming#Template:Infobox_Book

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 00:36, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

That helps! Hmm, if Wikia haven't yet removed it from the skin, we could have CologneBlue skin synchronize with Monobook's or Monaco's, but if not you'll have to have it local. I added an entry to MediaWiki:Cologneblue.css, when you clear your cache, can you see a difference in the text above (in poem tags)? If local isn't an option - we could convert to use my suggestion above, which would produce the same outcome. -- Sixorish 02:19, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Nothing has changed. And the problem is with Template:Pre font (and automatic line break).

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 21:50, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Link bug
There is still one thing which is bugging me. Outside links (possible only links via Special:Outbound) get & amp ; instead of & in the link which lead tibia.com news links to get broken, tibianews maps links to link to the wrong coordinates. I have a feeling only wikia can fix this for us, but I'm checking here first. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 22:24, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Vandal:Yaramazz
The user Yaramazz ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary.

Sincerely, User:Beejay

Thanks for reporting, Craggles blocked him already. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 22:41, September 22, 2009 (UTC)