Talk:Allusions/Archive

=Structure=

As far as I can see, there is no real structure in this great article. There are several possible ways to order the page, we can categorize on object or subject, e.g (NPC, Place, Texts, Others) vs. (Literature, Movies, History, Brands, Others). In those categories we can apply alphabetical order. Personally I think the subject focussed structure is nicest to read. --Borr 19:57 24 July 2006 (CET)

I agree. I wasn't sure how big this page would get when I started it, so I hadn't really thought about a "good" way to organize it. I have tried to keep all of the headings based upon the RL reference, and not the Tibia side of the allusion (this was specifically because of the many references to Lord of the Rings, but has served well for other things, too).

Because it is setup like that now, I like your idea of organizing it by subject. It seems to make the most sense for how/why people would be reading the page.

-- Whitelaces &dagger; Talk &dagger; &chi;&rho;&iota;&sigma;to&sigmaf; &alpha;n&epsilon;&sigma;t&eta;, &alpha;&lambda;&eta;&theta;&omega;&sigmaf; &alpha;n&epsilon;&sigma;t&eta; -- 11:35, 24 July 2006 (PDT)

=Content=

Pacman
The screenshot from the Pacman area mentioned it's a fake, right? The Ghouts have names, which means somebody using the Create Illusion spell.

Do you have additional information about this area and where is located?

I think we should enter accurate and real information here.

--Kaio 02:36, 20 March 2006 (CST)

The screenie is from Tibianews, 01/04/2004 PotD. There is no mention in the caption of the pic that it is from tombs (were there tombs in Jan of 04?). I think it's a fun screenshot, nothing more. I've been in all the tombs, and NEVER seen this; besides, it is obviously sand and not tomb tiled floor.

I think it's incorrect info. Besides, wouldn't cip use real walls and not parcels? ;)

--- Digger Smith, Calmera · Talk — 07:07, 20 March 2006 (CST)

Have you seen the actual space in the Tombs? I've been in the tombs too for a while and as far as I could see, there's no space like the one described in the allusion.

Does it really exists? Which tomb is it? Which floor?

--Kaio 12:58, 20 March 2006 (CST)

This area with "pacman" theme really exist. I saw this "pacman board" in real. It's not fake. Ghosts are there really. Same as blueberries, apple and oranges.

--Jura 20:09, 12 July 2006

LoTR
Edwin, please check the info you provide before posting. There are a lot of resources to research: google, wikipedia, etc...

Don't input comments like "Don't know if its spelled correctly" in the same article text because diminish the quality of it, and the Wiki itself. Also, you're showing a lack of english grammar. :) In the same way you give comments to other contributors, you should follow the same rules and recommendations.

--Kaio 13:11, 20 March 2006 (CST)

Comments
Wow! What a funny page! :D I have been inactive on this wiki for a good 11 months now and I'm glad to see it has progressed greatly. Very fun to see. This article was very fun to read, some nice facts on Tibia. :) Good job guys and keep up the good work!

Alreth 02:45, 18 May 2006 (CDT)

Crossbows and Tulips
I saw a a reference to Guns'n'Roses in Wikipedia here. Should it be in the Allusions page? I haven't seen a tavern of that name so I won't add it. Mocca-Kahve 08:04, 12 July 2006 (PDT)

Windows
I found this while looking at some pages :P You see a grave. You read: Here lies a window, killed by a penguin. Someone please add it cause I lack the english to add it =/

Pink Panther
Jaras added: NPC Emperor Kruzak's name seems to be an allusion to an inspector Clouseau from "Pink Panther" movie. Note that "Clouseau" pronounces similarily to "kruzo".

Am I the only one that fails to see the allusion here? Borr 11:08, 27 July 2006 (CET)

I also think it is a very weak reference, if any at all. It does not seem accurate because I see no other similarities between Emperor Kruzak and the Clouseau character in Pink Panther. Maybe if there was some similar function or personality traits it would work, but that does not appear to be the case.

-- Whitelaces &dagger; Talk &dagger; &chi;&rho;&iota;&sigma;to&sigmaf; &alpha;n&epsilon;&sigma;t&eta;, &alpha;&lambda;&eta;&theta;&omega;&sigmaf; &alpha;n&epsilon;&sigma;t&eta; -- 05:44, 27 July 2006 (PDT)

Sorry, I'm Polish and in our language when one says "Clouseau", then other hears "kluzo". Some people, as I know, called this inspector: "Crusoe" ([kruzo] in Polish). Moreover, here is Emperor Kruzak, and in the film there was Inspector Clouseau ([inspektor kluzo] in Polish). As you see, all of this is similar to the name of Tibia's NPC. But, for me, it's a similarity only in pronouncing. For every Polish people this would be straight reference. However, if you think it's not good - remove it.

Sorry for my not so well English. ;-)

Greetings.

Well another chariteristic is that clouseau (in the cartoon series) was short - DWARF like even.. Craggles

Even though I don't think there's too much in common with "Kruzak" and "Clouseau", I still fail to see what User:Oajng means by saying 'Deleted "Pink Panther" because the Emperor Kruzak was created before the movie of the pink panther'. I don't know when Emperor Kruzak was installed to the game, but I don't think it's too much before or after the millenium. In and after the 60's Peter Sellers starred in many "Pink Panther" movies. So, at least I think it shouldn't have been removed because of that.

Mocca-Kahve 08:09, 17 September 2006 (PDT)

Venorean Guards
The links of the guards namesakes (Arnold, Jean Claude and Sylvester) should point to the English wikipedia entries instead of the Spanish. Would be more universal.

&mdash; Ereglam &mdash;&gt; May the Force be with you &lt;&mdash; 01:59, 5 September 2006 (PDT)

As nobody commented or rejected, I replaced the Spanish links with links to corresponding www.wikipedia.org-pages

&mdash; Ereglam &mdash;&gt; May the Force be with you &lt;&mdash; 06:52, 7 September 2006 (PDT)

Abbott and Costello?
Abbot Costello in the Isle of the Kings monestary sounds like a allusion to the two-man comedy group "18:01 Costello: I am the abbot of the white raven monastery on the isle of the kings." Or at least that's what I get from it :> Kharzad Ironfist &lt;&mdash; 15:10, 11 September 2006 (PDT)

Considering this is the only monk in tibia (i think) that is referred to as an abbot it probably is intentional. In addition try out keywords and see if he has any comic responses, that would make it more sure. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 18:36, 17 April 2006 (CDT) 19:00, 11 September 2006 (PDT)

Jack the Ripper
Is it really important to name the women Jack the Ripper killed? I think it's really useless info and should be deleted.

I agree, there is no reason to add this since it is completely unrelated to this allusion, if there were female npcs ingame with those names it might be different.

Christo?
This allusion seems to be very weak. I can vaguely see the connection, but I'm not sure it really belongs on this page.... maybe it would be helpful to have more information about the artist "Christo" so that the connection is more clear.

-- Whitelaces &dagger; Talk &dagger; &chi;&rho;&iota;&sigma;to&sigmaf; &alpha;n&epsilon;&sigma;t&eta;, &alpha;&lambda;&eta;&theta;&omega;&sigmaf; &alpha;n&epsilon;&sigma;t&eta; -- 13:51, 30 October 2006 (PST)

Kalvin Klaus?
How is Kalvin, an NPC in a clothing warehouse, an allusion to Klaus Störtebeker, a privateer in the 1200s and 1300s?

Was this just placed under the wrong heading?

-- Whitelaces &dagger; Talk &dagger; &chi;&rho;&iota;&sigma;to&sigmaf; &alpha;n&epsilon;&sigma;t&eta;, &alpha;&lambda;&eta;&theta;&omega;&sigmaf; &alpha;n&epsilon;&sigma;t&eta; -- 12:27, 7 November 2006 (PST)

I hope it was, cuz neither can I see any connection between those


 * Nagatho Goldenflag (talk | contribs) 12:37, 7 November 2006 (PST)

Certainly was intended to go under a different heading... fixed.

-- Whitelaces &dagger; Talk &dagger; &chi;&rho;&iota;&sigma;to&sigmaf; &alpha;n&epsilon;&sigma;t&eta;, &alpha;&lambda;&eta;&theta;&omega;&sigmaf; &alpha;n&epsilon;&sigma;t&eta; -- 12:50, 7 November 2006 (PST)

Asgard
In Norse mythology, Asgard (Old Norse: Ásgarðr) is the realm of the gods (from wikipedia) how does asgard refer to rook? or is it just me not understanding

The only real similarity I see is the last part of the name Asgard and Rookgaard. Other than that, I don't see the allusion.

-- Whitelaces &dagger; Talk &dagger; &chi;&rho;&iota;&sigma;to&sigmaf; &alpha;n&epsilon;&sigma;t&eta;, &alpha;&lambda;&eta;&theta;&omega;&sigmaf; &alpha;n&epsilon;&sigma;t&eta; -- 08:09, 20 November 2006 (PST)

Juggernaut
I think that Juggernaut is an allusions to Juggernaut from the X-Men strips.

Hoola Boola

More likely, the name "Juggernaut" was chosen simply because of the definition of the word (see Juggernaut), and not as an allusion to any one or thing.

It is truly is a reference to the x-men, then there will be something else about the creature (what it looks like, what it says, etc)... not just the name.

-- Whitelaces &dagger; Talk &dagger; &chi;&rho;&iota;&sigma;to&sigmaf; &alpha;n&epsilon;&sigma;t&eta;, &alpha;&lambda;&eta;&theta;&omega;&sigmaf; &alpha;n&epsilon;&sigma;t&eta; -- 06:36, 7 December 2006 (PST)


 * The marvel comics juggernaut was human - I'm not quite sure of the class of the tibian juggernaut but i'm better somethiung majorly different to humanoid 'Craggles 6 Nov 2006 [ Random::Chat::Guild::Contributions::Tibicam Profile ] ''

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Also, in Dutch (language they speak in Holland), Juggernaut means Moloch, a monster that is eating people.

Hoola Boola

well i'm from Holland and i never heard of a word like Moloch >.< maybe u meen germany?

Kind Regards, Dille 11:16, 18 December 2006 (PST)

I'm from Holland too, and when you look in a English - Dutch dictionary you will find that Juggernaut is Moloch. And then look in a Dutch dictionary at Moloch, you will find that Moloch is a monster that eat children

Hoola Boola

Teddy Bear
How is this an allusion? --Tethys of the Angels 22:25, 4 January 2007 (PST)