Talk:Quests

Spoilers
Regarding the handling of quest spoilers, please see my example at Edron Goblin Quest. I figured I'd start with something simple.
 * 19:39, 12 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Quest List and Names
Concerning quests with multiple common names (e.g. "Desert Dungeon Quest"/"10k Quest"/"Vocation Quest"), should the main list contain EVERY alias, and they be setup as redirects? Currently DTD Quest is also in the list as Noble Armor Quest, for example (what does DTD mean anyway?).

Currently the standard appears to be that the most common name is used in the list, but sometimes this makes finding a quest difficult. For example, when someone is looking for the "Crown Set Quest", they may not think to look at the quest that is listed as "Black Knight Quest".

On a little side note, most quests are named by the most valuable reward from the quest (Bright Sword Quest, Time Ring Quest, etc.), but this is not always the most common name for the quest. Other naming schemes used less frequently are Location of the Quest (Elvenbane Quest, Triangle Tower Quest, etc.), Strongest Creature faced during the quest (Orc Shaman Quest, Banshee Quest, etc.), and Unique NPC or Item associated with the quest (Dead Archer Quest, Skjaar Quest, etc.).

Would it be beneficial to standardize the list on one naming scheme?

If you have any ideas or thoughts, please list them here.
 * 13:55, 18 October 2005 (EDT)

We hold these truths to be self-evident:
 * 1) redirects are cheap, but arguing is expensive.
 * 2) yes, Crown Set Quest should redirect to Black Knight Quest as "crown set quest" never refers to any other quest, but "crown set quest" is not the best name because it doesn't give you a complete Crown Set, so leave it with the title Black Knight Quest.
 * 3) nobody knows what "DTD" means. (see Talk:DTD_Quest)
 * 4) Title the quest as whatever the most commonly used name is, adding extra words where needed.  Like Goblin Quest refers to the one in edron, the one in femor hills, and the one in rook, so they should be named according to geographical location because the items (noob equips, power rings, snowballs) aren't that significant, but that's what redirects are for.  If there are two or more names that seem equally common, choose the name that emphasizes the most unique aspect of that particular quest.


 * 14:23, 18 October 2005 (EDT)

That all makes perfect sense, but speaking strictly of the list on the Quests page, should the aliases be added to the list? I have no vested interest either way, I would just like to know what the admins prefer, or what would be most useful for the site visitors without causing too many headaches in site maintenance.
 * 14:34, 18 October 2005 (EDT)

Well right now I'd say err on the side of luring in more visitors. We need more traffic. We haven't even had a vandal in over a month.
 * 14:51, 18 October 2005 (EDT)

premmium islands
The Quests in the premmium islands should be named as 'Main Quests'. I agree they are not-Rookgard, but maybe we should separate the Main's like so, and the Premmy islands' in another section.

What you think?

--Kaio 00:29, 9 March 2006 (CST)

There are some quests that require a premium account, but are not based on the premium islands. Also, they are all marked as premium or not in the list.

I'll try to fix up some way to make the premium quests stand out more, so they are easier to see.

There is also the page List of Quests by Location, which has the quests organized by where they can be found. Is this what you were talking about?

If I'm just not understanding, please explain a little more.

09:16, 9 March 2006 (CST)

Well, yeah, that listing is useful. My point is only that Edron and Darama are not Mainland (unless you call all non-Rook this way). If they were Mainland, any char could reach it by foot (although there are small islands free, like Draconia and Fibula).

Don't get me wrong, and I don't want to cause polemic. My question came after a guy (Free) asked me how he could reach some (premmy) quest that were reffered in the Mainland listing.

I'll say to him that look at the listing by Location.

--Kaio 11:39, 9 March 2006 (CST)

Oh, I see.

Hmmm. I'm not sure about the best way to do that. I've always understood "Mainland" as anything not Rookgaard, but I see your point.

There's also a page on Travelling that has some routes between free cities and also links to the boat and magic carpet pages.

12:42, 9 March 2006 (CST)

New Quest?
Rockstarguy18 created a page about that level 30 door behind Markwin in Mintwallin. I haven't been to Mintwallin in so long, that I have never been through that door. Does anyone know what's back there? Is there a quest at all? I have also heard rumours that Demons used to spawn near mintwallin somewhere (when demons were much weaker), but that they were removed. Is this related?

Any confirmed information would be helpful. Thanks guys! 11:26, 27 April 2006 (CDT)

The demons were found somewhere else in Mintwallin. I heard that General Murius was found in a room behind a gate of expertise, so that might be related.

-Andern Faion, 8:53 April 27 (EST)


 * I guess that door it's for on the quests already there. I can't remember if Devils Helmet or Mad Mage Hat. I got a little confused that time since our party made several quest at same time in Mintwallin. However, I'm sure we use that door sometime.
 * I don't think it's a new quest.


 * --Kaio 01:09, 28 April 2006 (CDT)

Concerning General Murius, I know he has been seen in the park area in mintwallin, but that does not mean it is impossible for him to spawn behind this door sometimes, just seems unlikely.

I recently completed the mad mage quest, and I never went through that door.

I found some maps, and that passage does lead to the "secret laboratory", but in some books in mintwallin, you can read about how Markwin blocked the entrance with rocks. Maybe it's nothing more than that..... part of the story about the secret laboratory.

I agree that this does not look like a new quest. Oh well.

If someone has more info, please let us know here. 07:52, 28 April 2006 (CDT)

Oh sorry, i missed this topic. If this gate of expertise you are discussing is the one in Markwin's castle, then Whitelaces is correct, that is the old door to the laboratory. His library tell us that he was attacked by Palker by that door, so he blocked the passage. Not a new quest. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 12:00, 29 April 2006 (CDT)

Than why it is a gate of expertise for level 30???

09:31, 18 May 2006 (CDT) <·>

This is part of the devil helmet quest. This is one way you can exit from the quest room (the Secret Laboratory). There is no way to enter the lab from this way, though.

I think that this door is lvl 30 because there is also a lvl 30 door at the actual entrance to the devil helmet quest. Maybe they were just trying to let you know that this was part of a lvl 30 quest... even though you don't have to go through this door to do the quest.

The alternative to exiting through this door, is to go through the Giant Spider.

-- Whitelaces &dagger; Talk &dagger; &chi;&rho;&iota;&sigma;to&sigmaf; &alpha;n&epsilon;&sigma;t&eta;, &alpha;&lambda;&eta;&theta;&omega;&sigmaf; &alpha;n&epsilon;&sigma;t&eta; -- 10:34, 18 May 2006 (CDT)

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Addon/Outfit Quests
I found an addon quest... The NPC's name is Ajax. He is north of carlin by the amazons camp. Not the tower. I am a free account so I can't help really. But i checked and nobody has added it yet, or Ajax either for that matter. So just a word to you premium people near carlin.

Another Addon quest.. Ceiron is the first NPC... He is directly east of the entrance to Ab'dendriel.(He may move i am not sure)... Elemental Talk

Ceiron is for druid outfit addon's, saw it around here somewhere... Craggles

Ajax, along side bron are some way intertwined with the barbarian addons no idea how. Ajax is simpley stupid, bron won't help and theres an annoying kid called Gelagos who MAY have done something to bron.

Craggles

Try saying violence to bron.

Gregor in Thais - Knight Addon 2nd quest, helmet ornament as reward:

Gregor: Well then, listen closely. First, you will have to prove that you are a fierce and restless warrior by bringing me 100 perfect behemoth fangs. ... Gregor: Secondly, please retrieve a helmet for us which has been lost a long time ago. The famous Ramsay the Reckless wore it when exploring an ape settlement. ... Gregor: Third, we need a new flask of warrior's sweat. We've run out of it recently, but we need a small amount for the show battles in our arena. ... Gregor: Lastly, I will have our smith refine your helmet if you bring me royal steel, an especially noble metal. ...

THATS THE Sweaty Cyclops!!!!!!

Say Uth'Kean while holding a crown armor you recieve a royal steel. I believe you can aso give him a dragon shield, halberd, and a demon helmet(?) to recieve other types of steel. I dont know wut they are part of the same quest or not though.

Amber in Rookgaard - helmet ornament as reward:

Amber: Okay, here we go, listen closely! I need a few things... a basic hat of course, maybe a legion helmet would do. Then about 100 chicken feathers... and 50 honeycombs as glue. That's it, come back to me once you gathered it!!

Tom in Rookgaard:

Tom: Would you like to wear bear paws like I do? No problem, just bring me 50 bear paws and 50 wolf paws and I'll fit them on.

Ustan in Port Hope:

Ustan: Would you like to wear bear paws like I do? No problem, just bring me 50 bear paws and 50 wolf paws and I'll fit them on.

Myra in Port Hope:

Myra: Okay, great! You see, I need a few magical ingredients which I've run out of. First of all, please bring me 70 bat wings. ... Myra: Then, I urgently need a lot of red cloth. I think 20 pieces should suffice. ... Myra: Oh, and also, I could use a whole load of ape fur. Please bring me 40 pieces. ... Myra: After that, um, let me think... I'd like to have some holy orchids. Or no, many holy orchids, to be safe. Like 35. ... Myra: Then, 10 spools of spider silk yarn, 60 lizard scales and 40 red dragon scales. Myra: I know I'm forgetting something.. wait... ah yes, 15 ounces of magic sulphur and 30 ounces of vampire dust. ...

Lubo, north from Thais:

Lubo: Sorry, the backpack I wear is not for sale. It's handmade from rare minotaur leather. plazer: backpack Lubo: Well, if you really like this backpack, I could make one for you, but minotaur leather is hard to come by these days. Are you willing to put some work into this? player: yes Lubo: Alright then, if you bring me 100 pieces of fine minotaur leather I will see what I can do for you. You probably have to kill really many minotaurs though... so good luck!

Jura