Talk:Achievements

I got 2 new secret ones, I think they are for making a Pretty Clay Statue and carving a Beautiful Marble Statue. Is it very spoiling if we're gonna list all the secret ones? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 15:40, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I also have a secret one. I guess if they weren't listed, then someone would list them anyway, whether they are a user on here or on another fansite. Perhaps we can wait to add these ones or something. Beejay 15:45, June 18, 2010 (UTC)

I'm looking at the list of achievements and seeing "The Milkman". What's that about? xD Xuban 12:31, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

That's a good question, I have no idea what it is yet. Maybe you just have to drink lots of milk. ;o Beejay 12:41, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

One of the daily tasks of Curos is to give him a bucket of milk. Maybe that's it?

Nevaran 14:45, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

how to earn achievements?
We should put spoilers about how to earn each achievement. dont you think so? Sez The Withe 17:28, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I think so (or rather link to the quest/mission you need to do to get that achievement). How did you find the text of the secret achievements? I don't see it in the library on testweb.tibia.com and neither do I see it on my account page there when clicking edit character. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 17:55, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

They are in the achievement list on your character page, so you can only see them when you are logged in. They aren't under the header secret achievements but are listed by the grades they are in. Beejay 18:04, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Beejay is right. I have 8 secret achievements with my chars. All of them are listed in grade 1. Some of my secret achievements:

09:50 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Allowance Collector". (Use 200 piggy bank)

10:02 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Party Animal". (Use Party Trumpets X times)

09:59 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Masquerader". (Use 300 costume bag)

10:08 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Jinx". (Use 500 winning tickets) (Doesnt matther how many winning lottery ticket you get)

10:19 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Fireworks in the Sky". (Use 250 fireworks rockets ON THE FLOOR, if you use in your backpack doesnt count)

10:33 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Clay Fighter". (Made a Pretty Clay Statue with Clay Lumps) Sez The Withe 19:24, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Here's what I have wrote down regarding the achievements:

Jinx - unlucky with lottery tickets. 100 times?

curious cat - tutorial island

Lord Protector - 3k essences?

13:48 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Masquerader". 300 bags?

13:52 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Fireworks in the Sky". 250 rockets?

14:00 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Allowance Collector". 150 piggy panks?

14:03 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Party Animal". 100 uses on party trumpet?

I am not sure about the Clay fighter achievement, but I may I got it after I successfully made 6, perhaps 10. Beejay 22:44, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with sez the withe. We should add a spoiler so people choose to see it or do it by theirselves Starygurl 00:21, June 22, 2010 (UTC)

Polisher (Secret) can be seen on "Gorak"'s page, it is a level 1 achievement but don't know how many points. Beejay 18:24, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Can you somehow see the amount of achievement points you have if you aren't on the highscore list? Then I could get the number of points you get from the His true face(secret) achievement. The preceding awesome comment was added by Dottie (talk• contribs). Remember to sign your comments! 11:15, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Never mind found it. -- The preceding awesome comment was added by Dottie (talk• contribs). Remember to sign your comments! 11:17, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Do the lottery tickets I used before update count for the 500 I need for the achievement?Klapauciusrnex 21:39, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

In short, no. They do not as there has been no record of these up until the update (eg. no record to take from a quest flag). To get these new achievements that are not related to quests (no flags/logs) you will need to do them since the update has been released. Also, I am pretty sure that this Jinx achievement is from 100 blank tickets in a row, the name speaks the same to me as well (I counted approx. 100 blanks before I got the achievement - and I may have got this after using more than 500 tickets). But when I can, I shall test this out to make sure. Beejay 00:29, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

I used a simple method in the test server. I bought 5 bps of tickets (100 tickets) and used all. The 1st wave i dont get any winner ticket (i though im really a unlucky guy xD), the 2nd wave of 100 i get 1 winner, th 3rd wave i get another winner, the 4th wave i got 2 winners, and the 5th wave i got another one. When i used the last ticket of the 5th wave (the ticket no.500) i got the achievement.

Anyway, i think the requeriment was lowered and maybe there is different ways to get it. Im gathering tickets for test it again.Sez The Withe 15:13, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

I did it on real server after update, you need 500 blank tickets to have achievement. What was changed from test server is amount of points for it, on test it was 1 point, now is 2. Crystalix

Jamjam - what it is?
Well it's an achievement but we still don't know anything about it. MaveAntica can you give any tips for it? User:Leree

Perhaps some day but the fun in this is to actually find them yourself (or at least that is my opinion), therefore you will have to wait some more or try to gget it yoursleves, ;p. MaveAntica 19:58, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... I understand you. I won't get full spoiler. I want only any hint, tip how :) User:Leree

The whole point of the quest spoiler pages is to completely spoil the quests! The way I see it is that you by adding small hints like that only want to rub it in our faces that you found something out or someone let you know how to do it.

But fine, don't spoil it. The least you could do though is to add the text that's on tibia.com for the achievements that you "find".

Nevaran 20:45, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Those text from tibia.com will complain all what you have hope that MaveAntica either me didn't spoil that. Krul~

I've been working on differents things in wikia, like completing the info about drakens, etc. don't blame me because I won't spoil an achievement. PS; as "Krul~" said, in this case the text from tibia.com is a complete spoiler of what you have to do. MaveAntica 21:52, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Then why did you add the achievement at all? To rub our faces in the fact that we don't know what you know? As I said it's supposed to be a complete spoiler.

Nevaran 22:23, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't add the achievement in first place, just so you know, I just adjusted the points it gives. MaveAntica 00:00, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Nevaran do you know what RPG mean? Tibia is boooooooooring if you can read spoil about everything at wiki. Did you done Wrath of the Emperor quest on last TS by someself? without spoilers? That was fun!! Krul~

Yes I do, more than most people who play this game. You always have the choice to not look at the spoiler, but the fact still is that the spoiler pages here on wiki are meant to be complete spoilers.

I'm not a tutor or fansite invitee so when I came on the test server it was already bloody mayhem and you couldn't even get from depot to potion stores without getting attacked so no I did not do any of the quests on test.

Ok, so it was User:Crystalix that added the achievement that still doesn't mean that your neener neener attitude here is right.

Nevaran 05:08, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

I dont support Nevaran agressive behavior, but i have to say i didnt like it the words of MaveAntica. He should talk and think for himself. The 99% DONT LIKE make quest by their own, they just want know what they have to do and do it fast. Maybe for him its more funny if the achievement isnt spoiled, but fot the other 99% of people isnt funny. Why do u think there is a lot of ppl complaining here about some achievements or asking help? MaveAntica, youre can choose dont share the spoiler, and its ok, but please dont say what its funny for the other people, you will be wrong. Sez The Withe 05:26, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

It was not my intention to be (or sound) aggressive. However it seems that the RPG-loving player that doesn't want to spoil for others are asking other people about stuff he wants to have spoiled. I'm thinking specifically about the question on User talk:Talasi.

Nevaran 07:18, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

About my question to Talasi: Guess it's useless to explain, but I wanted to know where that place is just for the fact I didn't remember any place like that so I was wondering if it was even on Tibia, I dunno if you understand what I mean. Btw, I can't belive you are actually complaining about me and you won't say a thing about people who wrote about other secret achievements, yet without spoiling how to get them, am I that speciall?. To Sez: I didn't say I'll keep this for myself forever, I will eventually spoil it, just not yet because I wanna give this 1% the opportunity to find the quests by themselves so they can be rewarded for their hard work getting something, because I consider extremly unfair that this hardworker people usually fall in disadvantage against the ones who follow spoilers. PS: if you want to follow this discussion tell me and I'll make a character on your world to talk to you, because I do not feel this is place for this kind of discussion. MaveAntica 09:52, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

I can answer that question. It's in Tibia. In Pits of Inferno. After you go through the door to get to the reward room you should go north instead of south and follow that path. From what I remember there are no monsters there at all.

I haven't seen anyone else that has added achievements without spoilers and then said anything on this page? If they don't look here what's the point in complaning to them?

We can just drop it and if a moderator want to remove the whole rant it's fine with me.

Nevaran 10:23, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Well... I know that is in Tibia... it's logic, but our team didn't found anything. There is only room with excalibug. Near entrance we've found npc A Ghostly Sage but he didn't help us too. Leree 18:03, July 10, 2010 (UTC) One player also wrote it is on Hrodmir but he won't tell me anymore. Leree 18:09, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Just In Time
The current page revision states "Just in Time" is achieved after completing Ice Delivery, yet I've done Ice Delivery and Buttery Hunter, but not Plant Collector and I did not get the mentioned achievement.

Maybe you need to fullfill all 3 missions?

Can anyone with the achievement or with a premium account doing Explorer's Society help confirm? -Unsigned comment by User:Old rush wood

Isn't it for completing the mission for Rashid where you have to run with the stinking cheese from Darashia to Port Hope?

Nevaran 14:34, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Probably for both, and maybe for ice cream delivery in Kissing a Pig quest. Crystalix

Maybe all 3 are needed to get it since he didn't get it.

Nevaran 15:49, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I've just checked right now... It's necessary Rashid (Wednsday) and Explorer Society (Ice Delivery). Mejenour 22:12, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Animal Activist
Everyone who has it, doesn't know why and everyone doesn't have it, wants it! Anyone have any ideas? User:jigarbov

Maybe the mission for scatterbrained sorcerer where you should kill bats but not hurt the kittens?

Nevaran 18:42, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

No, a guy on my server has it and he's was far too high level to do any eclesius tasks when he was added. we can also rule out the cattle/warbeasts from yalahar. I have also completed the baby seal mission in svargrond and dont have it. User:jigarbov

There are not achievements in quests with maximum lvl requeriment (like Eclesius Quest), so, it must be another quest, but i already have it with my 2 main chars, so i cant test another quests

Have you tried the mission 5 of the ice islands quest? Nibelor: Cure the Dogs Maybe you get it in that mission. Sez The Withe 21:42, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Ice_Islands_Quest/Spoiler#Nibelor_5:_Cure_the_Dogs

I've completed all Ice islands so it can't be that either. starting to run out of ideas. User:jigarbov

Well, if you have lot of quest done, i can try using elimination between your quest and my quests, if u want, post in my talk page all the quest u have completed, and i will give u some ideas. Sez The Withe 14:12, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I figured it out, kill a husky, then pay for it. I didn't realise I had killed a husky but when I paid for it I got the achievement. User:jigarbov

I've completed all quest(without Killing in the Name of... Quest and The Demon Oak Quest) I had killed a husky and paid for it but i didn't got an achievement. As jigarbov wrote maybe i have chosen wrong site in yalahar quest. User:Leree

You have to say 'Cattle' in 5th mission of In Service of Yalahar quest instead of 'Warbeasts'. But probably it is not all, you have to have other quests too.

Who did you pay? I paid mine at the guy by the dog sled. it happened immeditatley after i said "yes" when he said "I heard you were killing huskys and now you have to pay 500 gold" So I am sure that killing/paying for a husky is at least part of it. Cheyanna said that the cattle/warbeast mission has nothing to do with this achievement. She said "if that was possible, all the people that chose warbeast couldn't get this achievement. which is incorrect" I can't really think of any other requirements. maybe you have to use hams on the dog sleds some times or something? User:jigarbov

I don't know. I've chosen palimuth's way(cattle) in this mission. I've killed huskies few times and wasted 5k for payments. I still don't have this achievement Leree

I think that killing animals is exactly the opposite of the achievement description. The only tasks I can think of that fit the description are healing the wounded dog in the Ice Islands Quest, and some or all portions of the druid addons quests. Kharzad Ironfist 20:04, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

I would try the mission where you must paint baby seals, from the The Ice Islands Quest, MaveAntica 20:14, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

I don't have any addon on my main character and he unlucked the animal activist, so I am not sure what do u need to do obtain that achievement. Juan Ariel 20:13, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

I can confirm: In Service of Yalahar or the Druid addons are NOT necesary for this achievement. The problem is i dont know what its necesary xD Sez The Withe 21:17, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

About the Achievement Exquisite Taste
I Disagree with Bamfem on the way of getting this, since I actually fished 252 times (and I am pretty sure I did not misscount), therefore I deleted his aportation, and left it for discussion in here. The fact the last thing I fished was a Rainbow Trout, and that it was the 3rd one, made me think that you will get the achievement after fishign 3 Rainbow Trouts, 3 Green perches and 3 Northen Pikes, could nayone confirm this? MaveAntica 21:40, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I used exactly 250 worms to get that achievement, got 13 perches, 4 pikes and 1 trout while doing it. Another guy got 16 perches, 5 pikes and 4 trouts. At first I thought the achievement was fishing 25 special fish but I didnt get that much and still got the achievement. Anatherion 01:33, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Guess then it's about fishing 250. My guess is that everytime you fish in an icehole there is some kind of counter with increases by 1, and perhaps there is some hole which is bugged and won't increase the counter, if so I'd say it is one of the placed near the sleeping bear since I exactly fished twice on every hole there. Anyway I'll modify the spoiler now! MaveAntica 01:48, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I can cofirm, when i used the worm 250, i won the achievement. Total: 5 northern pikes, 5 rainbow trouts, 29 green perches, 211 fishs Sez The Withe 14:10, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Also confirmed 250 fish. I didn't even get any rainbow trout 5 pike, 11 perch and the rest in regulars. User:jigarbov

Polisher Achievement
Can anyone confirm that you can get by doing eclesius quest? Mirade said in the forums that all achievements will be available for all characters. Maybe its fake the spoiler, or, there is another ways to get it. Sez The Withe 14:20, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

The spoiler is incorrect, I have completed eclesius on another character and don't have the achievement. Also this achievement is on Goraks character page and he was too high level when eclesius arrived to have done it this way. I'm assuming you just need to unrust as lot of rusty eq but don't know how many User:jigarbov

I think that this achievement is awarded for unristing rusty armors and Gorak has it because he is researching the unrusting for tibia-stats Yxil 09:58, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Are the achievement points correct?
I copied all the achievements from my character page on tibia.com into an excel spreadsheet and added the points (that I find here on wiki) for each one and compared to the total amount of points I have on tibia.com.

There are two achievements that I'm not sure if I got on my main character so I did not add those points.

This is a screenshot of the spreadsheet: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j64/Nevaran/My_achievement_points.gif

My question is if the points that are added to wiki are correct? As you can see in the screenshot I have 108 points on tibia.com. I have 102 points (+ two achievements that I don't know if I have done). The points just doesn't add up.

Nevaran 15:32, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well, animal activist gives 2 points, and his true face can't give more than 3, so that give us 5 more points, plus your 102 are just 107 points.

So, yes, 1 achievement its wrong. Sez The Withe 16:14, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well, as someone said before, i'm 100% sure that Just in Time is not only about Ice Delivery Mission, since i got full explorer society quest in my char and i didn't got that achievement. Also, i don't have rashid and kissing a pig (or w/e that name is), so maybe one of those are needed too.

Another mistake i found is about Ghostwhisper... i'm sure it's not only completing mission 4 of new quest, cuz i did it on 2 chars and didn't got the achievement. My friend, who did with me, got it saying the same things i did to npcs. So if anyone has any idea about how to get that too i'll be glad to hear.

To finish, i'm working there are some errors on achievement points here, since i calculated 3x and mine achievements + points doesn't match. (i got more points on tibia.com then here).

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Sez The Withe 17:00, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Are you guys sure the marbelous/clayfighter achievements are grade 1 ones? If my information about Obtaining them is correct It's very hard to obtain them The preceding awesome comment was added by Dottie (talk• contribs). Remember to sign your comments! 18:32, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

"@Sculpting Achievements:

I lowered the requirement to one perfect statue each and set the points to 3. In addition to that, I added a higher graded achievement each."

I'm not actually sure what this means regarding what they are listed as currently, this post was made by Chayenne on 28th June. Passionate kisser = 3 points, Territorial + Secret Service = 5 points. Might be easier if we make another page and test each out separately and remove the ones that we are sure about. Beejay 20:55, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I just made a small list of the achievements here and the sections they are currently in. Bolded ones are with the correct points, just to make it a little easier to see. Feel free to change or add to this page, if you would like. Beejay 21:44, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I sorted achievements by amount of points like it was on test site, achievements was sorted by points there in the first days of test server, but later they changed it, coz one tutor complain that they are messed, and he can't find a clue why they aren't listed alphabetically. Later Chayenne was made some corrections, so yes, we need to confirm all points again.

Ghostwhisper, you need for sure to talk with ghosts to have it, including that new ones on Banuta, in Svargrond mines, maybe on Vengoth.Crystalix

Rockstar achievement
This is true? Who can confirm it? Sez The Withe 15:48, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

I got it and I played my wooden flute a whoooole lot of times. So if it still says play a musical instrument 5000 times I believe it. It could be even more actually. I would say at least 5000.

Nevaran 16:11, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Well, i played +5000 times the wooden flute and still didnt have it. Maybe I need play more times, or play without interruption. I will try it. Sez The Withe 16:30, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Done, i think its more like 15 mins playing. I used it like 15k times. Ah, and im pretty sure that gives 3 points Sez The Withe 17:08, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

I just did the achievement. It's really hard to count all those click, but I'm pretty sure it was 10000 times. Actually I counted up to ~9970, but I made few mistakes for sure. Suinn 17:27, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

I have used it around 10k times (counted 2000~ using pencil and sheet, and 7721 using clicking counter program). W_miki

Guys, are we sure that it's the same playcount for EVERY instrument there is, or that ANY instrument works for the achievement? If not, please list the instruments used when getting the achievement and the playcount.

Also, W_miki mentions using a click counting program, but remember that due to a delay that limits the amoungt of times you can use an object in-game, this could lead to a much bigger count than actual playcount for the achievement if you click way too fast. -V- 00:04, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

The Musical Instruments like the Fanfare or the Panpipes DO NOT have any delay. You can use hundreds of times in one minute. Sez The Withe 03:11, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

His True Face
I guess the spoiler info is not correct. My character didn't fight Armenius, but somehow the achievement is completed on my account. She wasn't teleported to sewers either during that mission. Suinn 10:13, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

It was confirmed by Mirade (http://forum.tibia.com/forum/?action=thread&postid=27888482#post27888482), that you have to fight with Armenius (Creature). And the name of the achievement is the same than the name of the mission of bloodbrothers when you can fight him. Maybe you achieved due to a bug or something like that. Sez The Withe 12:29, July 8, 2010 (UTC) PD. Please do not delete or modify that spoiler. People will start to complain that they have completed the mission 3 of blood brothers and didnt achieve the achievement Sez The Withe 12:31, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

The Milkman
Gives 2 points instead of 1. Sez The Withe 12:32, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

If the Milkman gives 2 point than His True Face achievement gives 3 points. (based on my character's achievements list) Suinn 17:24, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Territorial
Didn't get it when talked to all guide npcs listed on wikia's page
 * S!!!! wasted more than 1k in passages and didn't get the achievement--Klapauciusrnex 22:43, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

You need to say map yes to all :p Juan Ariel 23:02, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

You need to revisit all the npcs who you have previously asked maps from. I guess an easy way to do this would be to start at carlin, go east and work your way around to liberty bay. I got this achievement from (re)visiting all the Guide NPCs. Beejay 23:30, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

In other words, go with every Guide and say: 'hi' 'map' 'yes'. I think the spoiler its pretty clear. Shortest (and cheaper) route: Carlin->Ab->Darashia->Ank->Port hope->Thais->Venore->Edron->LB->Yalahar Sez The Withe 00:03, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I REVISITED all NPCS. And still didn't get the achievement. Klapauciusrnex 01:40, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Well, i did this achievement with almost all my chars and i didnt get any problem, so, youre doing something wrong. I will start with, you really went with the 10 guides? do you asked to they to MARK your maps? you saw the marks blinking when they marked your maps? Sez The Withe 05:18, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Ministrel (secret)
I used the instruments and didn't got it ._. Bitter Soul 01:20, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Do you did it in tomb? Leree 07:54, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Did you use them in the correct order? Maybe there's other things that needs to be done as well, just that I got it (i.e. performed the last needed thing) when I played those.

Nevaran 11:29, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Just tried with my knight, and he did not get it when using them. A guild mate however did. So it's most likely just part of it. Trying to figure out the rest now...

Nevaran 16:12, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

maybe you need the HotA quest done (still missing it ._.) Bitter Soul 16:15, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

My guild mate has only done 4 or 5 pharaohs so far so he hasn't done it either. Yet he got the achievement. Maybe it has something to do with other quests that involves musical instruments. Like Just in Time requires more than one quest to be completed...

Nevaran 16:56, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Myabe the Curo's task of the wooden flute Sez The Withe 17:10, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking that too, I'm sure I have done it on this character but not on my knight (on him I haven't done any daily tasks). My guild mate wasn't sure if he has done it or not. The annoying part about it is that you can't select which one he gives you. So you have to be lucky to get that one.

Nevaran 17:32, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

I did curos task, still didn't got it Bitter Soul 00:46, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I just went to the room with one friend, both played the instruments and both got the achievement in the moment wwe played the 5th instrument. Note: we didnt touch any of the others instruments and we was able to pass the door who leads to the teleport of the pharaon. You tried to pass this door? Sez The Withe 05:37, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I will tell what i know. I did HoTA Quest before update but i had to play on instruments again. I got an achievement without passing the door. Leree 05:46, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I know that Leere, but pass the door its the proof that YOU PLAYED RIGHT the instruments, and maybe that its the reason of why Bitter Soul didnt get the achievement PD: I haven't done any pharaon, so, is not a requeriment Sez The Withe 06:11, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

When I tested it on my knight (that didn't get the achievement) we went in and killed Vashresamun afterwards so I could get the HotA part. So yes I played it correctly :(

Nevaran 09:57, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Castlemania
I figured out the achievement would be about getting the diary pages, but I wasn't able to find the 7th, does anyone know where it could be? Perhaps it is on the area where the blood skull is? Does anyone know if getting a diary part on a secondchar and giving it to Julius will work?Uha 01:45, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Note how the text also says how you have collected tokens... and explored... there is no diary in the blood skull area as far as I know. Karlkoninan 02:31, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I went to the vengoth castle and i have one problem. The 1st diary page (1st tower to the right, 4th floor with 2 gs and many poison and spiders), i cant find it. Its impossible to use the northwest skeletons, and when i look the skeleton i got: "You see cobwebs". I wanna know if im missing something or its a bug and i should report it? Sez The Withe 05:17, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

If I remember correctly you have to move a skeleton and use the one that's underneath.

Nevaran 09:56, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think Karlkoninan is right. You have to do more than just hand in the 6 pages. Probably get the blood goblet and kill at least 1 vampire lord to get a token.

Nevaran 10:11, July 11, 2010 (UTC)