Talk:Administrator Team

Welcome
Feel free to discuss things among admins. Ask things to admins, propose new ideas etc. Reporting a vandal can also be perfectly done here, but is not really the intention of this page. Also note that this page doesn't have the same function as TibiaWiki talk:Community Portal.

Loot Calculator
I have uploaded that loot calculator, as mentioned here to some free webhost, being AwardSpace. The calculator can be accessed on tibiacalc.awardspace.info. The spamfilter is blocking it, so I can't directly link to it. This is just a quick free host I found, which seems to do the job so far. I have also edited the file on my server to redirect to the new link.

I am not sure if people will use it, even if you post it on some Help page (Help:Loot Statistics or something). I can give any admin that wants it full access to the account on AwardSpace, as its only purpose is to host that one script. And if it doesn't get used.. Well, I had some hours of fun creating it :)

Temahk 09:27, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Hmm, AwardSpace was unavailable this afternoon, so I also uploaded it to another host, lol. Apart from the downtime, the script doesn't work properly on AwardSpace when it comes to bigger log files.

Have a look at http://tibiacalc.vndv.com/, which now includes a TOC (looks stolen from Bennie :D). Not sure what the limit of lines is, but 37K lines worked on my connection. Scripts can execute during 30 seconds, which includes uploading. So slow connections cannot use big log files. Or at least, thats how I understood it from some testing today.

Temahk 20:25, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Tibia article at Wikipedia
If Anyone feels like updating the info there and making shure all is ok? Also if some one can make a beautiful screenshot of a Paladin hurting a dragon/dragon lord (howing fire wave and showing the palading doing harm to the dragon), so we can use it on wikipedia, they have a very old tibia version screenshot and is not good... people will think this game sux by looking at those grapics. Also did they change the link to the old tibia wiki to the new tibia wiki? --Kwigon the sharpshooter 21:15, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

Vandal:Pdrino
The user Pdrino ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary. I've already undone his edits, tough those sites should be watched.

Sincerely, User:Xomoda

Bennie has blocked him and protected those articles, thanks for reporting.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 16:14, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

VANDALISM:Wodofilex
-- the user Wodofilex are editing pages with a false link.

'Don't want to be hacked? Use the official software created by TibiaBR.com and Tibia.wikia.com. This program working in background prevents access to all keylogers. Go to TibiaBR.com and download now, or get it from a direct link www.tibiaBR.com/download/tibiasecurity'

this link is FALSE.. plz, undo the wrong edits and take care of this user. Daniel.7976

The user Wodofilex ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary.

He writes the same text with a link to tibiabr.com on all quest sites.

Sincerely, User:Xomoda

He has been blocked. Thank you for all who noticed and reverted the edits, well done. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 01:52, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Skins
Affff, I was playing with the skings, and now I can't find the old one I was using before, also now each time I want to save something It ask me to make a preview first...(making all 2 times slower) Is there a way to change that? --Kwigon the sharpshooter 01:19, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Check Special:Preferences and preview the different options and see what you had before. The preview is now forced on all users, but it might not work with some of the older skins. This is to remind people to double check for typos and other mistakes. You can email me about this if it still bothers you. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 01:52, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't know I was using the same sking that this wikia have since 3 years ago (I never changed sking), then on other wikia I could not see some info so I changed sking there and now the sking changed here too, anyways the sking thing doesn't bother me much, but I have to get rid of the preview mode (it will slow me down alot). Help me with that, I don't want to be forced to preview. --Kwigon the sharpshooter 03:14, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Buy from/Sell to
If you take a look for example at the page Axe. Rather like many pages, there is little organisation with who buys the item and in what town. I think it should be organised alphabetically by town and then by the npc who buys/sells. Mainly because there are no two npcs with the same name (as far as I know) but in some cases there is more than one npc in the same town that buys/sells for the same price. What do you think? beejay 00:15, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

If it makes you happy, go ahead. I don't have much problems with the current method, since there are usually only ~6 npcs selling it, which can be read quite fast. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 07:11, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Preview/Skin
I dont want to preview before saving eddits -.- I want my old skin, and that sking is not in this wiki, what can I do... This ship is making me crazy and angry --Kwigon the sharpshooter 05:00, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I understand you are angry about this kwigon, but I think I can do nothing about it atm. I promise I will take a look later how this can be by-passed. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 05:10, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

The old MonoBook skin (I guess this is what you're referring to) has been completely removed and will not come back. Wikia no longer supports this skin and it should not be supported. The skin is outdated and causes more trouble then its worth. Nothing our local admins can do about it. If you feel the need to complain, please use Special:Contact. They won't add the skin, though.

The preview thing is there to enforce you to check your changes. Be it template-wise, be it your spelling. I -always- prefer before saving a page, but this functionality actually annoys me. Nevertheless, I think it's a good functionality and truth be told; you could use it. I know English isn't your first language, but sometimes I get the feeling you aren't even trying to write a proper English sentence. This is not meant as a personal attack, it's just an observation over time.

Temahk 07:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Already got an addon for firefox to fix 99% of my typos, anyways preview my eddits wont change the amount of spelling errors since if I don't know a word I JUST DONT KNOW IT, but when I need for example to remove old templates from monsters I have to do like 2000 eddits on them, it used to take me like 5 minutes for 8 monsters (checking sounds and attacks and strategies) now takes me like 15 because the page has to load again after the preview. To me its slowing me to much. Isen't a way to chose if you want to have that option on? Should be a on and off switch... I use preview button only when I needed, now that its forced I have to use it even if I want to add a dot in the end of a line. (makes angry face) --Kwigon the sharpshooter 12:47, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Kwigon, every other normal user has to preview and I don't like it either. Especially when it takes double the time undoing vandal's edits, but I live with it like everyone else does. beejay 13:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I just don't understand why I have been here for like 2 and a half years and till now I have to do edits like that, am not used to it, since when is this thing like that? also other wikis does not have this, you can save right away. --Kwigon the sharpshooter 14:28, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I understand you and I'm the same, but I would usually preview my edits first anyway. I only wish it didnt include rollback edits too. And it's been like this since May, check here as you can see theres already been a discussion about this before. beejay 14:52, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm if I understand well theres a way to by pass the preview, or anyone knows how to do that group "trusted" to add people there so they can edit protected pages and do roll backs and skip the preview thing? --Kwigon the sharpshooter 15:05, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Took me 30 seconds to bypass it the easy way (disable JavaScript..), another 5 minutes to figure out how to disable it without disabling JavaScript. I'm using Opera though, and I'm guessing most of you use Firefox. Been trying for the last 50 minutes in Firefox, but I give up now. Disabling JavaScript is an 'option', though it will render alot of pages useless or ugly and it will disable quite some functionality. GreasyMonkey just doesn't do what Opera can do without addons, so I have no clue how to disable it in Firefox. Might try Chrome tomorrow, just for fun :).

And for crying out loud Kwigon, it's spelled edit.

Temahk 22:52, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't in my home when I posted that, some words my brain can't memorize and I always make the same mistake. Never mind I will wait till the trusted grup is created and I am added to it so I can skip preview XD --Kwigon the sharpshooter 23:01, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

I've modified MediaWiki:Common.js to test permitted users, try clearing your cache and try again. Hopefully I didn't epically screw up, but no promises. -- Sixorish 02:20, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nevermind this, was spitting out errors and it didn't work, clearly. -- Sixorish 03:05, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks I don't have to preview each time to eddit, BIG thanks. --Kwigon the sharpshooter 01:09, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

User:Manjyome Black is probably the next account to vandalize Water Elemental (Helmet of the Deep was already verified several times to block Water Damage). NeWsOfTzzz 07:31, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

always preview
Since 3 days ago i don't have to preview before i edit pages, it is much beter this way, but i don't know if it is right, but i hope so. I usualy preview big changes, only shorts texts and when i "undo" something i don't preview. --Maguu 08:15, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Was caused by an error on my end in the script enforcing the preview, which should now be fixed. You won't notice it, since you have rollback permission. However, others should actually notice it.

Temahk 14:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

undoing edits @admins @rollbackers
Just a reminder: when undoing edits that are mistakes and not vandalism remember that not every user knows about Special:RecentChanges or about page history and edit summary so they may not know why their edit was removed or a page deleted. Please make a habit of leaving them a message on their user talk page explaining it. They will see a note at the top of any page reminding them they have an unseen message. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 19:48, 26 July 2009 (UTC) ''On an unrelated note i think this page should be archived as soon as all present conversations are no longer being discussed. It is too crowded.''

Vandal acount User:Lanon33 he is admiting hacking, buying and selling real money, scaming, and moking at CIP. And yes this page is too long now, it should be archived, its geting slower to edit it. --Kwigon the sharpshooter 17:01, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Set a user edits into the watch list?
Is there a way to add a user to the watch list, so if they contribute again you can see their edit in bolt? This would be useful for people that does 2 or 3 bad edits then stop for like 4 months and comes again and do 2 more bad edits. --Kwigon the sharpshooter 13:34, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

This works the same with user pages as it works with any other page. Go to the desired page, add &action=watch to the end of the url (or if this does not work, click on edit and replace &action=edit by &action=watch). ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 15:26, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

No, you can't watch a user's contributions page. What you can do, though, is add an RSS feed which will list their most recent ones. Link is: http://tibia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&feed=rss&target=username -- Sixorish 15:36, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Includeonly/noinclude
There seems to be a problem with these two tags but I'm not sure why. I just made an edit on The Snapper and it now says "Invalid tag extension name" and then checked another page eg. (previewing without making an edit) and it came up with a similar thing for includeonly, am I the only one seeing this? beejay 14:34, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Odd .. I've fixed Premia, which I thought was because the rich text editor converted (one of) the noinclude tags to use HTML entities instead, but I can't find what was wrong with The Snapper... Commenting a gap between the noinclude and the spoiler tag seemed to fix things, but that doesn't explain why it did that... -- Sixorish 15:25, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Ive got the same problem, I was wanting to edit darashia d lair, and adding new templates was impossible Xomoda (talk~*~rares) 15:46, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I just checked wikia and Uberfuzzy said this:
 * Try changing anything else in the page, even just adding a space or something somewhere, just enough so the hash for the page will change, and the error will go away. The code you have isnt broken, some template somewhere has the error message cached. Also try nullsaving all the templates used on that page.

beejay 17:28, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it has something to do with a new mediawiki version we have (probably)? I see 1.15.1 here (1.14 before?) and rollback links on the RC page. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 20:17, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I thought that update was meant to happen in september, I just tried with Silver Amulet putting a space inbetween the noinclude and spoiler tags but it didn't work when the page was saved, though it showed up as normal on the preview, I tried purging as well but it made no difference. I wouldn't try editing templates cause I'll probably mess it up somehow, even though they are probably protected so I guess I'll just leave it the way it is. beejay 21:29, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

My user page stop linking to chars on tibia.com
Char template is not working right when I click it i get ---> =character & amp ;name=   instead of    =characters&name=   <--- this works here but my page stop working. Should be--->  http://www.tibia.com/community/?subtopic=characters&name=Chrisy+the+master  But when I click it opens http://www.tibia.com/community/?subtopic=character & amp ; name=Chrisy+the+master (I made spaces so they show up, if I remove them the name looks normal)  This is the page where am having this new problem: http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kwigon_the_sharpshooter/Kwicop_Back_List must be a new problem with my page, links where working and sending me direct to the player name, now they don't. --Kwigon the sharpshooter 02:47, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Your current revision works fine for me, and there's nothing wrong with the template. -- Sixorish 03:29, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) Were you previewing when this error occurred? If so, it's probably a fault with the server rendering your page, this isn't a thing we can fix. The Wikia staff know of this problem...
 * 2) Were you logged out of your account when this occurred? If so, it might be a problem with the outbound redirect page they have in place for anons.

Someone reported a tibianews map link not working, I think it has something to do with the outbound page too. Is there a way to bypas it (for a certain domain)? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 06:41, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Still not working in my page, but if I a new create a link to a char in other pages it work, yes I was loged no it was normal view, maybe something changed in the template? --Kwigon the sharpshooter 06:47, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Could you do the following for me: Report any findings if you can't resolve with the above instructions... -- Sixorish 08:02, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) purge the server cache
 * 2) clear your browser's cache (usually: IE, FF, Chrome: Ctrl+F5; Safari:Click 'Reload'; Opera: Tools - Preferences)
 * 3) attempt to edit the page where there are problems - any edit which modifies the content around it, such as adding a space, should work.
 * 4) if the above don't fix it, list a few links which are broken. (I can't find any)
 * 5) find the direct link to which those URLs take you; are they internal (outbound to external) or external (directing straight to the target destination)?

Just tested some stuff, leaving a space in front of the template makes the line gets surrounded around a framed outlined box, making a new char link also works, only old ones stop working, adding a - in front makes them work, I guess I will add a symbol in front to fix it. Maybe the problem happens if you have the char template link to close to the beginning of a line? --Kwigon the sharpshooter 09:39, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Doubt it, see Beejay's second message at above. The only thing which seems odd to me is that not all of the templates were causing this problem (or do they?). -- Sixorish 16:10, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

I don't think is my problem I think is the server problem, I never use  I use  now in my page some or a lot of   changed by themselves into , I check the history and nobody has edited the page but me. That combined to the char template stop working. I think something is wrong with the servers? --Kwigon the sharpshooter 01:49, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

If it was a server problem everybody would see broken links, but I don't see them. Try viewing the page from another computer (e.g. on school/work) and see if it's not working there either. If that does not work I would try contacting Wikia. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 08:14, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

All the links in my page and tibia news links where broken for like 4 days I think, and I think it was caused if the template was the first thing on to the left on a new line. Like I said, they working now and I didn't do a think to fix them. --Kwigon the sharpshooter 15:11, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

It's magic man, magic I tell you!

Temahk 16:23, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

It was a problem with the template, but no, we didn't fix it - we couldn't fix it, because nothing is physically wrong with it. -- Sixorish 19:53, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Book
Can somebody make the text field of a book have the same effect as it would have if it was inside of  ?

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 14:57, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Is there somebody here who knows how to fix the bug in book texts?

The Template:Infobox Book uses Template:Pre, and the result is: only the first and last paragraphs are affected by the special font (Courier New?).

I'm asking to replace the Template:Pre by poem and code tags, or to edit Template:Pre. The poem tag auto-detects a paragraph with no need to use br tags in the text, like the Template:Pre already does. And the code tag gives a special font to the text what seems to be the same used by Template:Pre, however all paragraphs have the same font.

I failed to fix this bug, it's why I'm asking help here.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 18:33, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

New lines act as non-existent whitespaces to the parser and therefore get ignored; there's no way to convert them to any distinguishable characters. We can't automatically have them replaced.... One option, though, is to feed it through regex (excepting with DPL, there is no way we can do this!), which can find end-of-lines. But why does adding &lt;br /&gt; affect you so? -- Sixorish 19:37, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

New lines act as non-existent whitespaces - Template:Infobox Book uses Template:Pre, and it auto-detects a paragraph (or new lines or end-of-lines), like I already said.

I'm suggesting to use poem tag which does the same thing.

It was never the bug (the bug is explained on my last message).

why does adding &lt;br /&gt; affect you so - we do not use &lt;br /&gt; in book texts because it's easier to copy & paste from the game to the wiki without adding &lt;br /&gt; in end-of-lines; removing every new line because it sucks the font; adding poem tags because it can be done in the template in somehow that I don't know yet.

Clarifying: the "bug" is in Template:Infobox Book which is used on book articles, to see the bug just edit (without saving, only previewing) the text field of a book and get it to have more than 2 paragraphs.

And I thought that I was clear enough with my last message...

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 00:44, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, sorry that was totally my bad. Still, your message is vague: do you want all paragraphs of the poem tag to be styled with that font, or is that not the problem? -- Sixorish 02:40, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I'll exemplify from now on...

Currently, a book text looks like this:

Line #1 Line #2 Line #3 Line #4 Last line

As you can see only the first and last lines are affected by the "special" font and detected as new lines (I had not noticed this one before).

If we use poem and code tags, the same book text would look like this:

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 20:01, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

 Dear Muriel! My apprentice behaves strangely lately. I fear he has something evil in mind. He must have stolen the books about necromancy you were missing after our last visit but I have no proof yet. ...

...Your friend, Arcian (technically, this does not use &lt;br&gt; in source, which seems to cause it to break). This font doesn't have to be bold - was using it so that it could be noticed easily.

- none work. Oh .. I see... I think the problem is with the &lt;code&gt; tag, and how browsers render it when there are line breaks in the source? &lt;pre&gt; should be able to render the font properly, while maintaining the line breaks; the only problem is that some articles have line breaks (&lt;br /&gt;) on them, which will need to be removed. -- Sixorish 21:28, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

If I understood you, Template:Pre uses &lt;code&gt; (which is causing the problem) and you have a way to fix the problem by editing Template:Pre which is different of the way I suggested. What is wrong with using &lt;poem&gt; and &lt;code&gt;?

Remember that Template:Pre is only used in book articles (as far as I know) which don't have &lt;br /&gt;.

By the way, &lt;pre&gt; is not the same as Template:Pre.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 22:14, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

The problem, I was wrong about. It's actually Template:Pre forcing the first and last line outside of the paragraph (view page source).

Template:Pre does not contain any line breaks and nor do most of the books which use it. However, every multi-lined book is parsed with line breaks. &lt;pre&gt; explicitly 'tells' the server not to add line breaks - because pre can't contain tags. Clients will render pre as the source is loaded, with whitespace in consideration.

To be honest, nothing is wrong with using poem + code. But, this bug you reported - I cannot reproduce it, at least in the examples you've given. The font is as it should be for me, which leads me to believe that I'm misconstruing your report or you're using a stylesheet which I'm not. Is this a problem with the font of poem+code?

I'm sorry to have you repeat this. -- Sixorish 23:34, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

The font bug depends of the skin you are using (I use CologneBlue).

When I used other skin to check this, I noticed that the &lt;code&gt; tag has a non-transparent background, so I suggest to use only the &lt;poem&gt; tag (there isn't problem with &lt;poem&gt; + &lt;br /&gt; tags).

To see the font bug with Template:Pre: http://tibia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Administrator_Team&useskin=cologneblue#Template:Infobox_Book

Example of a skin that the &lt;code&gt; tag background is not attractive to use: http://tibia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Administrator_Team&useskin=monaco&usetheme=gaming#Template:Infobox_Book

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 00:36, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

That helps! Hmm, if Wikia haven't yet removed it from the skin, we could have CologneBlue skin synchronize with Monobook's or Monaco's, but if not you'll have to have it local. I added an entry to MediaWiki:Cologneblue.css, when you clear your cache, can you see a difference in the text above (in poem tags)? If local isn't an option - we could convert to use my suggestion above, which would produce the same outcome. -- Sixorish 02:19, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

Nothing has changed. And the problem is with Template:Pre font (and automatic line break).

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 21:50, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

For the last time...

Please, can somebody edit the Template:Pre or Template:Infobox Book to make book texts to have an automatic line break? My suggestion is to put the text between &lt;poem&gt; tags. (But I don't know how to do it, this is the why I'm asking to somebody edit for me.)

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 20:33, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Link bug
There is still one thing which is bugging me. Outside links (possible only links via Special:Outbound) get & amp ; instead of & in the link which lead tibia.com news links to get broken, tibianews maps links to link to the wrong coordinates. I have a feeling only wikia can fix this for us, but I'm checking here first. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 22:24, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Vandal:Yaramazz
The user Yaramazz ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary.

Sincerely, User:Beejay

Thanks for reporting, Craggles blocked him already. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 22:41, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

Second Fansite Soccer Cup
Erig chose me to be the TibiaWiki's soccer team leader/captain.

I've contacted (via e-mail and IM) all premium account administrators, some didn't reply me, others won't participate.

Now I'm inviting (via talk page) the administrators didn't reply me.

Tomorrow I'll invite some "ordinary" users. (already invited)

Requirements to participate: Regarding the #1: we have enough time to create a character on Calmera and level him/her up, however we'll need help to get access to Yalahar.
 * 1) You'll need to have a character at level 10 on Calmera with access to Yalahar (so you need to have a premium account);
 * 2) You need to have free time between 17:00 to 20:00 CET on weekends (month not yet decided).

TibiaWiki's soccer team:

Alreth (every other weekend)

Hunter of Dragoes

Our soccer team can have up to 8 participants.

If you're a free account administrator and plan to buy premium time, just contact me and I'll be adding you to the team members list.

Hunter of Dragoes,

TibiaWiki's Soccer Team Captain - 21:43, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

I am sorry but i have no guarantee that i will have time to play any weekend, due to my studies. I hope it works out for you all. Perhaps you can allow helpers/rollbackers to participate? --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 03:43, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

I've invited Kwigon, Beejay, Sadonic and Pudd Knight by a comment on their talk page, and Nevaran by PM in-game. Nevaran won't participate.

Do you have any suggestion of a user to be invited to the tournament?

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 16:58, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Sadonic won't participate too. I didn't imagine that it'll be so hard to find active users with premium account who want (and can) participate...

From now on, I'm accepting applications from any TibiaWiki user here.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 23:47, October 19, 2009 (UTC)

Vandal:Suryanic‎
The user Suryanic‎ ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary.

Sincerely,

User:Beejay

Thank you for your report, the user has been blocked.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 19:16, December 10, 2009 (UTC)

List of sellable items to npcs
A while ago I came across a page which had a list of items by the "npcvalue=" price, it was a DPL list like List of Creatures by Exp/HP Ratio. Since then I've forgotten how I first found the page and I'm looking for it again, does anyone know what I'm talking about and if so, could anyone please help me find this page again, I'm not having any luck finding it myself. beejay 18:50, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Proposals
I just deleted the article Australasian Server Proposal because TibiaWiki is not the place to users post their own proposals (I think everyone agree). Though, we can have a list of the rated proposals (or maybe only the proposals rated as "Promising idea" and "Nice-to-have feature") with a little summary about each proposal and a link to the corresponding thread, in my opinion. We can use images too. However we already have 2 lists of proposals, they are: Proposals and The Best Proposals! Proposal. The point is: what should we do with these articles? Delete them and create the list of rated proposals? I want to know what you think about this issue before doing a major edit like this.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 23:22, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Why did you ask whether to keep them if you've already deleted one proposal? Does the Australasian Server Proposal page have less merit than the others for inclusion? Just wondering why you didn't delete them all... I would say, delete them and don't create a page for an overview of those "highly rated". This is an encyclopedia on Tibia, present and its history, but have [other than these few proposals] no pages detailing the future of Tibia. My opposition is not very strong because it doesn't hurt to have an article on it [though the same could be said about the existing proposals]. If we do decide on creating a page, they should be removed if they become rejected, and moved to the update page if implemented (imo). -- Sixorish 03:13, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I suggest keeping the page Proposals and turn it into a list of promising ideas like Hunter said, delete all other proposal pages. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 09:16, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't delete the lists of proposals because there might be some of the rated proposals there and we can use what is written about them in the new article. If you don't know, the rated proposals have been forwarded to the responsible departmentare and are being discussed by CipSoft (or will be discussed soon). Do you really think it shouldn't be here? In the Tibian community there are several groups of players: those who item/creatures information, those who like quest spoilers, those who like books, those who like the history of Tibia etc. What about those who like speculate about the future of Tibia? What is better than the proposals that are being discussed by CipSoft?

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 20:00, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Vandal:Holypaladiin
The user Holypaladiin ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary.

Sincerely,

User:Beejay

The user Holypaladiin has been blocked. Thank you for undoing his editions, warning him and reporting him. And sorry for the delay.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 06:38, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Problems with Loot Statistics Processor
I solved the problem. Sorry for the inconvenience,

White listing.
Two of Tibia's official resellers websites are blocked on here, they are called iLop (onepay.pl) and ProKey Zajac, Drewnowski Spolka Jawna (prokey.pl). These sites can be found on tibia.com here so I think TibiaWiki should allow these two sites. beejay 18:31, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

I've added those two to the whitelist. I don't necessarily agree with them being noted on the Wiki though, because over time that list is going to increase and our page will eventually be less of a page about premium accounts than it is of resellers. -- Sixorish 19:40, March 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, what do you think would be better, making a page about official resellers, putting the info there and linking to it from the premium page or something else? beejay 20:24, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * I added the page Official Resellers and placed all the info about resellers there, it's probably better that way, I'll add the extra service info to this page but I'm not sure whether all extra services work via this way or just some. The page could do with a bit of work on it if there is anyone who knows more about these resellers. beejay 10:51, March 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * It looks good! Unfortunately I don't know a thing about official resellers, well someone else will know.

^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 11:03, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! I don't know much about them either but I'm sure that if one of the resellers come by they will add more info if they see fit. Thanks to Boacompra I could find about the recovery key, the site can also be viewed in English. :) beejay 11:15, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

Vandal:Victor12v
The user Victor12v ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary.

Please check what they wrote on User Talk:Nevaran Thank you!

Sincerely,

User:Beejay

Thanks for the report, I blocked him again. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 06:51, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Vandal:Dmnlux‎
The user Dmnlux‎ ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary. I think hes trying to spread links to download malware of some sort

Sincerely,

User:Beejay

The user is already blocked.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 20:48, March 16, 2010 (UTC)

Fansite Contact Person
Hello everybody, I would like to announce Erig is no longer the TibiaWiki Contact person since he passed it to me today. As you might have noticed, he has not been very active here lately, this is mainly the reason. The tibia fansites page still lists Erig as contact, this will be fixed at a later time. Please note (and this is important) that Erig is still the owner/leader of TibiaWiki, I am merely the contact person, This means: I have access to the fansite board on the tibia.com forum, can appoint helpers, organize contests and Cip member interviews, that kind of stuff. I just thought you have the right to know :) ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 17:45, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Not sure if a congratulations is in order but here is one anyway for your new position. :) beejay 18:07, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Nice. I guess it's better this way. Will you then be bringing about the long overdue Talk:Main Page/Interview? (I'm not sure this ever concluded) -- Sixorish 18:14, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Beejay :) About that interview, yeah... A lot of questions are already outdated. I discussed this with Erig too today, he advised me to make up some own questions. I guess I just take some good questions from the Main Page/Interview~ page and spice it up with some own questions. Unless anyone feels a big urge to organize it? Anyone? :P To be honest though, I don't see this interview as a very high priority, since I can predict most of their answers, they obviously don't want the whole world to know their secrets. About botters they will only say they do their best to fight them. About secret quests or items they will say they are not allowed to spoil anything. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 21:33, March 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * Could ask them about ideas that didn't quite get implemented. The close-but-no-cigar ideas, those are interesting. Wrong place for that anyway - congratulations, this definately needed to be done sooner. You're clearly the most active and dedicated and now that you've got this straight connection between tibiawiki and tibia.com we should be able to get things done. I still respect what Erig has done with this but he himself says he's just let this wiki grow rather than try and guide it. '''Craggles Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile

'''

To Craggles: I don't think much for him is gained 'in connection with tibia.com' besides the added responsibilities.

Speaking of which, doesn't CIP require that you send them details of website traffic? (, 11). Did you discuss that with Erig, since I assume he had worked something out with Wikia? -- Sixorish 00:43, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Good to see. Glad you guys are holding things together. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 03:57, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know how far the 'connection with tibia.com' goes but when I mail to fansites@tibia.com it is read quite quickly, on fansite board Rejana is quite active in replying too.. Erig did explain me how to send the website traffic. Wikia will send me an email monthly, which I need to forward to Rejana. In case you're interested, I can forward it to you guys too. Although I think a comparison of all fansites is more interesting than the statistics from only one of them.. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 08:38, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations for the new position and responsibilities, and good luck!

Erig made the right decision choosing you to replace him.

About TibiaWiki traffic, it'd be nice add our traffic average to TibiaWiki:About.

Regarding the interview, I think we should have specific/personal questions to the Cip member who will be interviewed. People asked questions that were already answered before or questions about a private issue that won't be spoilt (and very few of them asked stupid questions like mine xD)... but this is only my opinion...

Other issue is: we are the only promoted fansite that never had a rewarded contest! We already discussed it before here. My suggestion is to create a poll about which kind of contest would our users like, the options could be: drawing skills (logo, fanart or TibiaWiki ads contest), luck (lottery), logic (puzzles), English writing skills (literary contest), RL photos (cosplay contest), Tibia knowledge (hard questions about Tibia [answers should be sent by email]), guess the location/item/creature contest (tips can be something written or a screenshot/image), other. We can have some in-game contests too.

Bennie, will you get a heavily bound book and/or a nightmare doll? =P

Will you appoint Erig as a senior helper (so he will get premium time voucher and private TS access)?

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 20:20, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I will add the relevant traffic into to TibiaWiki:About when I get it (first of April I think). I can even mail it to all admins, well we'll see. I will try to work on the interview in the next few months, at least before the summer update and the contest at least this year (before January 1, 2011). I know this seems like a long delay but when I plan my time a bit beforehand I can put all necessary effort in it, there are ideas enough but lack of time and dedication I think. Yes, I will appoint Erig as a senior helper, since he asked me so. Yes, I got a heavily bound book :D Not a nightmare doll though, it has no relation with tibiawiki, does it? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 08:47, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Actualy, the nightmare doll has relation with all promoted/supported fansites since it can be a prize of their contests, and every promoted/supported fansite contact person got one (including Erig).

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 14:18, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Some problems with loot pages
I found some problems with loot pages. Some looks like in old loaction "/Loot". Is it a problem of my browser or just error? (eg. Nightstalker). Any idea how to fix it? Jura 16:17, March 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * It seems to be a problem of my browser. Any idea how to fix it? Jura 16:23, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Append this to the URL:

This will update it. It's not a problem with your browser, but not all pages have been updated yet (they're allocated a spot in the job queue). This doesn't affect the JavaScript code which is the predominant means of inputting samples. -- Sixorish 16:28, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Vandal: Matthe_Konopie
Vandalism report for User:Matthe_Konopie.

Vandalizing the Magera world page: http://tibia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Magera&diff=prev&oldid=290398

Vandalizing Loot Statistics:Demon Skeleton - http://tibia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Loot_Statistics:Demon_Skeleton&diff=prev&oldid=289332

Constant editing wars and additions of physically impossible (on non pvp) and unconfirmed information on the Secura page: http://tibia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Secura&action=history

Vandalism of Blood Brothers Quest/Spoiler: http://tibia.wikia.com/index.php?title=Blood_Brothers_Quest/Spoiler&diff=290409&oldid=267990

Thanks, --Kharzad Ironfist 18:38, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Not every edit is vandalism or entirely vandalism. I will warn him, then a temporary ban if he does not stop. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 18:51, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

How i add my character info in my account in tibia wikia like DM Did Please Answer Me Thank You!!!!

image upload
can an admin upload this image? it is a higher quality of the formula on Experience Formula

http:// img293.imageshack.us/img293/7680/math1.png Polski 09:04, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Craggles uploaded your image with the following name: File:Math1.png.

Why is TibiaWiki using images when we can use tags?

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 14:29, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

it was, but its font quality is substantially higher than it is here. compare: Polski 18:18, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Math1.png]]
 * $$\frac{50}{3}(x^3 - 6x + 17x - 12)$$

That's a lot better indeed. If you used a different font with a LaTeX renderer, perhaps you could suggest a &lt;math&gt; implementation wiki-wide? Come to think of it, the size looks a lot like the rendering used at Wikipedia... Why don't they share fonts, anyway? -- Sixorish 02:00, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Lock request for the page Draken boots
Please lock the page Draken Boots. People misuse the bug of buying them from Esrik for 40.000 gp and selling them for far more!

 Sadonic ( Page/Talk ), Seeker of Myth ( Page/Talk  ),  12:17, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

I just made a reply on Talk:Draken Boots, thank you for the warning. :) Beejay 18:28, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism
The user "Leopelusi" is intentionally inserting false information on the pages of Troll Green, Bog Raider, etc Sez The Withe 20:56, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

I left them a message and asked them to not do it again, thank you! Beejay 21:08, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

About map system
I finished the map thingy for tibiawiki, you can check it on Mapper and examples on my user page.

I want to start replacing all map links(and some map images) on tibiawiki soon, I've made a lot of tests (older and other o.s. browsers) and it seems everything is ok, but I want a second opinion just in case anything have problems or needs to be changed on the script or the templates. Hope someone can take a look at it when you have time, thanks.

--Daniel Letalis 08:21, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

It looks fine to me, using FF3/Win XP. I'm surprised by the way you made this without using scripts for the rendering. Where did you get the maps from though? Did you disassemble your .map files? I fear users won't be able to replicate that and if you leave the project will fail.

One aspect I dislike is being unable to click on the image to see a larger version, as is usually the case when users upload and scale maps, but a link could accompany the map for users to see whatever they wanted to any level of depth. I think it still lacks some features: for example, the lines on maps is generally undesirable, but in some cases it is required (the specific floor tiles in PoI, on the Banshee Quest, the Paradox Tower...)

Positives I can see are the maintenance being reduced to a single map and updating coordinates, centralized information and independent development. I wonder how TibiaNews will fare without the traffic we send them for their maps. I'm not against it for this reason though, because it's an innovation the wiki has long needed.

If you have already tested it on several operating systems and browsers, I would just propose or set the standard. If there are issues with the script, they are one in a million and we wouldn't find any either. If users experience problems, they can always report them when they arise. -- Sixorish 11:23, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Floor 0 map is a mix of my maps and the outdated fansite tibia.com map, all other floors are my maps. I thought they were more complete but after testing the mapper I noticed I have a lot of missing areas to explore. The coordinates system is based on tibia real coordinates that is used in .map files naming too, each .map file has data for an area of 256x256 sqms so it is almost impossible it changes. I have the source code of the program I used to export my map files to bmp and I can upload both the source code(or the program) and my maps if it is needed/requested by anyone interested. I dislike that not anyone can give maintenance to the map images but having updated map files and the tibia map viewer, merging can be done on photoshop or similar by anyone.

I don't understand about the larger map version, you mean like the mapper has a link to the map image like this one?: File:Minimap Floor 7.gif

Also I'm not sure what you mean about the lines thing, maybe something like: File:Way_to_Minotaur_Tower.png. If so I believe marks could be enough or maybe I can add marks with numbers or the possibility to add text labels to the maps. Please give me examples of images so I can understand better the limitations and I try to remove them. Making the mapper "create" lines is possible but links generated would be too long even for simple maps with 2 or 3 line segments

--Daniel Letalis 12:03, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Larger map version: kind of, I mean that the current practice is usually: if a map is too big, use it with restricted dimensions. The map you have created can't be enlarged without editing the page(?), and the larger map on the page will be obtrusive. Two ways around this I can think of: 1) a link to the mapper page with the set coordinates so users can look around, at the surroundings and such, or 2) a simple script to enlarge the map.

Lines: I thought I could back this up, but it is an indefensible claim. I glanced at the respective pages and it appears all of them use in-game images, not maps. I referred to these images: File:Banshee_Queen_Quest_Fifth_Seal_c.png, File:Pits_of_Inferno_Quest_3.jpg, etc. -- Sixorish 13:37, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

I think I understand now, you are talking about Template:Minimap. If that's the case I think better way to do it now would be that template Minimap displays like this:

--Daniel Letalis 14:11, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

It seems that there is a positioning bug, I will work on it probably soon. --Daniel Letalis 14:24, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

A few things: When zooming in on Mapper the images get very pixelated/fuzzy and do not look as smooth as in game maps. Would it be possible to upload a better resolution of the images? For example in File:Way_to_Minotaur_Tower.png you can see distinct squares relative to how they are in game.

Also what is the best way to update the maps, for the reason i just wrote above i cannot easily add my maps to the mapper files since the resolution is different. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 19:53, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

The maps I uploaded are using native resolution, 1 sqm can't be more than 1 pixel because it can't be more than 1 color.

This problem is caused because web browsers are designed to use filters to make images look better(like photos) when zoomed

Making mapper images 200% i.e. would increment floor 0 image size from 300~ to 700~ kb, and zooming to 400% well probably like 2 mb but I can't export the image optimized to that size on this computer (not enough memory on photoshop CS2).

I don't see like an option to store 200% or 400% or 800% zoomed images on wiki specially because of the load times.

Other option would be have zoomed images and load them by sectors, but I'm sure that would take more time for me to program than the time I used on mapper+template, I will think about this anyway, probably using google maps api from the beginning would have been a better idea, I will think about that too.

--Daniel Letalis 04:32, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

It seems to me that google map API isn't better than current version because it would require external hosting, I optimized images with other program and it seems that floor 0 with 800% zoom is like 800kb, still decent but it had problems on not very powerful computers like freezing on dragging/loading because of high CPU usage. Having the same maps but zoomed would be possible like having images with different zoom:
 * Minimap_Floor_7.gif (current 1:1)
 * Minimap_Floor_7_2.png (200%)
 * Minimap_Floor_7_4.png (400%)
 * Minimap_Floor_7_8.png (800%)

This would have a big BUT, the maintenance would be huge, instead of 15 images that are 1:1 we would have to maintain 60 images, having to correctly update 4 images every time we update 1 floor.

I would rewrite the mapper in flash but I don't think it is possible to insert flash objects on wikia.

If no new ideas come in some days I will start changing tibianews worldmap links.

--Daniel Letalis 23:37, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

I usually use Firefox and this is how i see Mapper on the right vs. Tibia Map Viwer on the left:. Also i double checked with other browsers and they show Mapper fine, so the issue would seem to be on my end, unless others are having the same issue. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 05:05, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

It looks the same here with 5 browsers, is just the way they resize images I will keep doing tests maybe having only 100% and 400% images would be enough. --Daniel Letalis 05:28, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't notice your screenshot looks like different size on firefox maybe you changed zoom by accident, try view->zoom->reset, the size is the same for both tibia map viewer and browsers here but still looks fuzzy, I will upload the version that uses 400% image later. --Daniel Letalis 14:45, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

That is the highest zoom for TMV but the Mapper image is one less than the highest zoom, which is bigger than the TMV one (i picked those two since they were the closest for comparison). I have checked all obvious reasons for the poor resolution, like browser zoom, screen resolution, css, etc. and nothing has helped. Besides that may we upload newer versions of the file? I would of course only patch parts on where i have a more updated area. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 16:37, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

I will add the images on 400% so mapper and template have the high resolution option (saved as cookie) and basically it will work like this:

People that don't care about the fuzziness will be able to keep using low resolution images for improved load times.

I will try to figure out a formula to "translate" tibianews links to Mapper links. --Daniel Letalis 00:29, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, I'll try help with that. How will the links be changed though? By means of bots? They don't use templates. -- Sixorish 21:30, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Odd, it appears that the links have been replaced? There used to be over 1000 links to the TN map. Or did you intend to link to TN on the Mapper page? -- Sixorish 21:43, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Nvm it appears there's a problem with that listing, more than those listed appear on Thais' transclusions alone.

An annoyance with the TN map: the query string which provides the coordinates are not accompanied by a separate definition of zoom level. Here's some data I gathered from observation: We need more data, preferably from different zoom levels. Most of the TN links we have are zoomed in (e.g. for NPC locations) though. -- Sixorish 22:04, July 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * There is an origin, and
 * North-west the origin is (+, +)
 * North-east the origin is (-, +)
 * South-west the origin is (+, -)
 * South-east the origin is (-, -)

I believe the TN origin was somewhere around on the TW mapper, give or take a few pixels. --Kharzad Ironfist 01:05, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

I already filtered pages with tibianews links using Special:Statistics's database dump and figured out a formula to convert coordinates. The change has to be done manually and zoom may be problematic, maybe use a zoom so it looks similar to tibianews map would work fine. I will try to automatically convert all the links with the formula so even if it have to be manual edits we can copy & paste.

I also added the option to have numbered marks in the maps for mapper and template so it gets more useful.

--Daniel Letalis 01:29, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'm back again and I can't read through 25 days of recent changes, so if anyone can update me on what happened since the July 3 that would be nice. The Mapper looks amazingly cool! Good job. Is it completely finished and are we gonna change all tibianews links to the mapper links? Because my intentional idea was to use the Template:Worldmap for every map link and if another supported fansite creates a good map system (like tibiaML is working on) we could easily let all links go to them by only adjusting that one template. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 12:04, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

About our TibiaWiki's map, I am not quite sure what is happening yet because I don't exactly understand the discussion above.. :p Some links have been changed to follow the new map which has been needed for the new quests.

I think TibiaML's map is going to take quite a long time, I was helping with it before the update but the user incharge of it has been rather busy. So their current display and files they have for the map is maybe 2 months out of date. Beejay 11:30, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure why the popup is not always working, I will check that later.

I don't think external maps will be able to handle the marks, zoom and other options as Template:Minimap/Mapper. Template:Minimap is only for internal use, and possibility to mark is there so we can use it instead of upload map images on quest spoilers, etc. Even that Template:Minimap_Popup shows a popup, it (and it's JS code) could be modified in case it is needed to link to other site. Simple links for mapper could use Template:Worldmap but not more complex maps with marks like this one Beejay made showing some dragon respawns.

I will start replacing some tibianews links for links with Template:Minimap_Popup, if it is decided is better to use Template:Worldmap I will look for the way to adapt Mapper to it. --Daniel Letalis 03:55, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the explanation. Just replacing all tibianews map links with the popup minimap template link seems ok then, the worldmap template is not needed. If any other fansite in future makes a map which is worth linking to we can always add that link in the popup minimap, I think. Thanks for doing this Daniel, it's looks very cool and I think will be very useful. What is the best way to help changing the links? It is obviously a way to big job to do alone, will the links disappear on User:Daniel Letalis/Test‎ if they are finished, or else what system can we use to show others that particular link is already changed to prevent people doing it double? Use strike perhaps? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 09:04, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for slow answers, I've been busy these days. Replacing the links will be more work than I thought, what I had in mind is that every user helping takes 1 number at a time and edit the list page like I wrote there: User:Daniel Letalis/Test

When we finish tibianews links I will upload a new list that has tibia earth (tibia.pl) links translations. --Daniel Letalis 23:02, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

A couple comments on the map system and its changes.

1) Perhaps the use of AutoWikiBrowser would greatly simplify the process. I've used it a bit on an unrelated wiki (never with scripts, though) and I think it is powerful enough to handle simple link changes if there's a formula for the coordinate conversion. If you've already compiled a list of links, it should be fairly straightforward to go through. You can probably use it directly to find the TN map links through the database dump. There's an option to run scripts based on page input in the form of plain text, XML, and possibly others. Done manually, this would still simplify things greatly. If there were a manual-bot account created to do it automatically (it could also easily make any changes in the future), things would be greatly simplified. In order to use the AWB, you need to request permission on an account by account basis on the page I linked to before.

2) Could a small graphic be added or map links colored a different text? A great advantage of the TN links is the TN favicon appearing after the link, making it readily apparent that there's a map link there.

Kharzad Ironfist 00:19, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Interesting but, I'm wondering if it will really save time because we are checking the context of the link(that may need to be changed on some pages) and we are previewing to verify maps are correct, so probably using it as bot wouldn't be possible, so the time saved would be the copy, find, replace. I will check this system anyway.

About the icon, is a good idea, anyone can implement it but I will add it to my todo list in case no one doing it. --Daniel Letalis 01:44, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I will go ahead and start of some stuff: edit MediaWiki:Sitenotice, edit MediaWiki:Common.css (for the links). I will try to find a small map icon too. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 08:21, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

There are also a number of dead links to Tibia Earth, if it were possible to make a list like TibiaWiki:Mapper Project for these as well. Beejay 12:56, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Shall I ask Rejana to make a news ticker on tibia.com in a few days stating something like "Enjoy TibiaWiki even more with their new worldmap. Don't hesitate and take a look at their cool new Mapper!" ? I think a lot of people will be glad to hear there are maps again on TibiaWiki, the links to tibianews worlmap were used a lot. Also, a lot of other fansites have lots of news tickers on tibia.com, we should spam there a bit too :) ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 17:55, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

I agree there! One thing I have found quite annoying since the recoding of TibiaNews, is when people have complained about "TibiaWiki's maps not working"..Well very soon, that won't be problem anymore. :) Beejay 18:51, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, Mirade just published a ticker for us. See it. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 10:06, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Vandal:Captain_alucard
The user Captain_alucard ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [ bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary.

Hello! The user User:Captain_alucard recently made a couple destructive edits on some quest pages by replacing the pages' contents with hack links. I've reverted his edits as of the time of this message, but he has probably made more edits since then.

Permanent links to his vandalism on affected pages:

       

Sincerely,

User:Kharzad Ironfist

Thanks for the active response. He has been blocked. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 04:19, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Shield of Corruption
Please change the max price to 3kk and log it since people won't stop changing it. Bitter Soul 17:11, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, I have changed this. Beejay 17:21, July 31, 2010 (UTC)

I can't make it work properly:

The code doesn't turn into popout map. Zielu 00:44, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

The pop up map does not work within the spoiler tags. I have replaced that link with the full link to the map, thank you. :) Beejay 17:58, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone heard about this vandal/hacklink?
Hello, Rejana forwarded me a complaint from somebody: "I went to tibia wikia today to look for something, and I noticed the left search bar seemed a bit slow. When I tried to choose a link from that sidebar I got a pop up from my antivirus progaram stating there was potential spyware. I thought perhaps I had followed an incorrect link, so I went to the site taking the direct link from the cip fansite page. The main page of wiki does not seem to be affected, but the item links seem to generate it. I did notice recently when visiting tibia wiki that there seemed to be a lot of non tibia related links set into pages- right in the description of items or places. I cannot tell you exactly which pages, as I have not been there in over a week, since I have been batttling a redirect and spy virus. Please note that I recently updated my spyware program and this could be why my program did not catch this info a week ago when I noticed it at first. I have attached a ss of the warning which includes the potential redirect site RD.APMEBF.COM Please forward this to the wikia people for immediate investigation." I have no idea, if anyone else has seen this please leave a note so we can take appropriate actions. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 15:33, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

I have not noticed such a thing recently but around January 2008 i remember a very advanced trogan used in the ads that i got just from being on another wikia site that had ads enabled. It was a bot that i fortunately found and removed, but it was not active at the time - as i assumed whomever created it was waiting for enough infected people to perform some attack, DoS perhaps. On the other hand Rejana may have something on her computer that inserts links in the hopes of her giving away private information.

A third option is some new users were inserting hack links last week and Rejana happened to get that version and had not purged her cache of the vandalized pages; the wikia servers have been slow lately. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 16:14, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

A few Google searches seemed to point to RD.APMEBF.COM being a service that tracks browser activity and occurs when someone is infected with a [local] trojan. Because the user reporting claims to have recently been infected with a considerable amount of spyware, including browser redirecting, odds are there's still some on her computer because she's describing symptoms of spyware she said she removed. --Kharzad Ironfist 16:18, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

I have seen problems like this before.. Me and another TibiaWiki user have experienced a trojan (?) which came up as a folder and appeared to be scanning the hardrive. With a bit of research about that trojan it appeared to be an issue with java not being updated. There was an issue like this with a user before but I cannot remember the talk about them with it. I do have the picture though. In the past two users of TibiaML also experienced this similar kind of virus as well, link to it here, hope that helps. Beejay 16:52, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

This is a serious issue that probably only happens to people with not fully updated software and it only happens randomly because ads are random, we need to demand to wikia to filter the ads in a more advanced way to make impossible this kind of situations, even for users that have super old browser & plugins versions.

Because wikia may not care about this, maybe we should create a help page telling people how to update browsers, java, flash and any other plugin and link to it on Sitenotice?

Also, would be useful to try to reproduce the problem, or just would be waste of time? --Daniel Letalis 20:45, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

It could be useful to someone, but not sure how much it would help us by reproducing it. You would want an old test computer and have it repeatedly refresh one page or go to random pages trying to catch the problematic ad(s) and record respective page/ad, but there are a lot of unknowns that might make it not work, unless this problem is so pervasive that you find it right away. There is free testing software to do this, but i do not know any names or how well they work. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 22:38, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

How sure are we this is caused by the ads? If we're pretty sure I will message wikia. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 07:29, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not 100% sure on that, all I can say is the 4 experiences I have seen/had were due to adverts. Seeing as people do not see the adverts when logged in, I guess you could ask Rejana if the person who complained experiences the problem when they are logged in. They should not have issues with creating an account from the main page, if they don't experience the problem there. So that could be one way to narrow down the cause of the problem. Beejay 10:47, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Daniel: I'm sure Wikia care about this, although they did announce to all admins weeks ago to update Flash (vital security update) so that may have been a movement toward negligence...

Pretty sure that if this is true, then it's an advertisement. We have the URL, don't we? If the URL fed to Wikia was not a redirect itself then that should suffice to have it investigated... -- Sixorish 13:22, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * PS: Did Rejana forward the aforementioned image? If he did, we'd know what to look for at least... -- Sixorish 13:26, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Well, Rejana did not attach any image with this message because the person emailing her didn't attack one either. Rejana is a she by the way. I will contact wikia and ask what they can do. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 13:42, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for contacting us Bennie. We definitely care about reports like this. It's really important to us to hear about any potential problems of this kind. See our recent blog post for more info on how we deal with malware.

So far, we've not had any other reports of this... so it's possible that the original sender had an existing problem on their computer unrelated to this wiki. But malware is a possibility on any site, so we'll be keeping an extra eye out for problems over the next few days. If you see anything worrying, please let us know. Thanks -- sannse (help forum | blog) 21:54, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Physical Damage
Hello, how do i edit the Weak against psychichal section at Physical Damage, it shows every singel monster under the section "weak against", so i was thinking about fixing it into 4 sections, weak, strong, neutral, immune,   but dunno how   Taaf 12:06 26th october

As far as my knowledge goes, you can't. You can do it manually and use that table for your information, but then it would also require to be updated manually. That would include the changes to their weakness/strength percents, if you decided to have that as well. Beejay 12:53, October 26, 2010 (UTC)

Trivia contest
I was discussing this with some friends and I thought it would be fun to have another contest: this time, trivia based. There are many things around the world of Tibia that seem oddly out of place, and are somewhat unique appearances in the world. I don't want to give examples because they can be used in the contest (these would be shared in internal emails amongst admins, or each admin would be given a certain amount of trivia entries and keep the answers to themselves). I think it would be best if there were many level ranges (e.g. not centered around the inquisition quest) so that everyone can participate. Note that the answers to the trivia contest would not be on the wiki as they would not be notable enough for articles to mention them (hence, trivia).

The last contest that we held went horribly wrong -- our administrators did not have time to judge, and it was filled with plagiarism. It's too difficult to judge a contest which involves self-made images. This would be a lot easier to judge because you would judge correct and incorrect, rather than giving it a rating of 0 - 10.

Please don't spread ideas for trivia questions here! In case we do host this contest, we don't want the questions to be public just yet (it would be unfair to give regulars a notice on what to look for).

Give me your thoughts on this. -- Sixorish 15:22, May 3, 2011 (UTC)

I really like this idea and the community has expressed interest in this at some point when we asked for contest ideas. We would need to confer among the admins on what questions we each come up with to avoid redundancy and ensure accuracy. Also make sure there are enough questions that it would be hard for one person to answer them all - make it easier to determine winners. Personally June or July would be a better time for me to do this.

The only 'tricky' part is that we could not securely have players give their answers here or identify what account is answering. I think we could set up a form with the questions and simple PHP script to email them to a shared admin account. Maybe the script could grade as well, but not sure how secure it would be on a wiki. Then send the top 'X' winners to Cip who can make sure there is not more than 1 account per winner and any other restrictions we have (e.g. there must be a player of 20+ on the account who has been active over time).

--DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 20:24, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I like this idea and how it fits with the wiki style. :)

Players can give their answers on a talk page (maybe we should have one talk page for each question/puzzle/riddle) and the first 3 whose answers are right get points, for example. So, one of us protects the talk page, and everybody waits the organizer posts the next question.

We can decide whether we will announce to the public beforehand when exactly all questions (or only the next question) will be posted or not.

To avoid complain about somebody being prejudiced because his/her timezone, the post/launch time of questions should be spread from 0:00-23:59 CEST (on different days, of course).

What do you think?

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 02:53, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

Field runes and the creature template
I'm thinking this will be the next addition to the creature template and need to discuss how this should be implemented. I'll explain a little about how field runes work: If a creature does not walk over fields, they will walk around them unless there is no path to the player (i.e. all squares are blocked by fields) when they will run through it (unless the player has not initiated hostility(?)). A creature can walk over some fields but not others, e.g. a Lizard High Guard does not walk over fire fields (55%) or energy fields (100%). A Lizard Legionnaire, on the other hand, walks over fire fields (55%) but not energy (100%). I don't think there's any clear-cut way using their resistances to determine if they walk over fields, which is why we need to define it separately. The question I need to ask is: how do we go about this? Do we split the parameters into walksoverfire/walksoverenergy/walksoverpoison (taking a Boolean value) or do we describe it all in two parameters (walksover=Energy, Fire; walksaround=Poison)?

And is anyone against this addition for some reason? -- Sixorish 14:54, May 9, 2011 (UTC)

I think (walksover=Energy, Fire| walksaround=Poison) is better (as 2 parameters), I was thinking that Cip doesn't have these parameters on creatures but then I remembered that some days after some update hydras started to walk over energy even if not attacked. --Daniel Letalis 00:06, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Bad ads
A few weeks ago I was surfing the website on my mobile and noticed that the mobile skin of Wikia's serves different ads than the main one. I liked that there were no flashy banners and they were all static ads, but I noticed that a lot of them were related to gold and account selling. I personally don't want such ads on the wiki (though they were easy enough to ignore), and think that we should start an 'anti-bad ad' campaign where we request our viewers to report ads that they feel do not belong on the wiki, and the links to those ads and, maybe, a screenshot of it. We would compile lists and send them to Wikia requesting they be removed.

I understand that mobile users represent a very small portion of our userbase, but they are users nonetheless and it is tarnishing to our reputation if we serve such ads. What do you guys think? -- Sixorish 08:31, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure about this sorry if it is documented, wikia removes ads on request? --Daniel Letalis 12:41, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

Some ads, yes, see http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:Bad_advertisements. -- Sixorish 19:56, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

About tibiawiki being used for scams/false information
Lately there have been a lot of "new" users changing info on some cheap and relatively easy to get creature products, putting a high price to obviously scam people. I really feel that it is useless to block the user and undo the changes even if the response time is fast (i.e. 1 hour or so) and sometimes the helpers/admin response takes more than that. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think wiki is one of the most visited, if not the most visited of all fansites when someone needs information, and even that the information manipulated could be just 1/100000 of all info in the wiki, it negatively affects players and gives the wiki bad reputation.

I really believe the tools provided by wikia have proved to be not good enough, isn't there something we can add or implement to improve this weakness?

--Daniel Letalis 17:24, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

I do not know of any existing tools, but an idea is some mechanism that monitors active editors (maybe checks who has edited every 15 minutes) and if it detects some edit that has been undone 3 times, reverts to the original and locks the page. It could block the first editor, but considering it may be a stupid edit war and not intentional vandalism, neither should be blocked. It is easy enough to script a monitor to check but i suppose it would have to be connected to an admin account to lock a page. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 17:42, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

One thing that we could do is store the value on a separate, full-protected article. I'm afraid that some value edits are legitimate though, and admins surely can't keep the values of items updated. There are some bots dedicated to fighting vandalism, but even if we had such a tool these scammers would find ways to bypass it. I think what we need is a wiki extension which prevents any changes to specific values (sellto, buyfrom, etc. etc.) by regular users. Unfortunately, I doubt there exists such a pre-made extension and I'm not sure if Wikia or MediaWiki restricts what we can and can't implement.

I think that first things first, we should focus on the NPC trade system, because we are in the process of adjusting everything and a prevention today might not work tomorrow. -- Sixorish 20:46, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

Almost all of the creature products (definitely all of the ones that are targetted because they are dropped by easy monsters) have fixed prices (since they are sellable to NPC's) and we know what drops them. So why not lock the pages and if someone finds a new monster that drops it, let them go to the talk page and write it there.

Nevaran 18:17, May 20, 2011 (UTC)

I protected the creature product pages, using cascading protection so that we don't need to adjust 100 protections later. It is temporary, because I think we may need users' help later when we are content with our NPC trade system. -- Sixorish 07:25, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Bot flag
With the upcoming mass edits required for the new NPC trade system, our task will most likely require the use of bots. The operations to be performed by bots right now are not known, and the bot would not be operated here until we have agreed on some format for item/NPC pages. I'm experimenting in a separate environment (at w:c:sixtest:) and am requesting a bot flag there on my user account User:SixBot, as, apparently, it is required now for AWB to properly function.

However, I suspect I will need to demonstrate community consensus before I am assigned a bot flag. So I am here asking your opinions on whether I should or should not have the flag. Note that all edits would be manually saved; it would make the necessary changes but I would confirm them before submitting. -- Sixorish 07:42, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

I would not say a bot is required, but it would definitely be helpful. My only condition is the same that you noted, make sure we agree on a format for the pages. You have my support. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 15:03, June 2, 2011 (UTC)

If you see the bot is really needed I support it and I'm willing to help run it to reduce your workload. But I'm not sure if it is really needed, the edits I made to npcs(Template:Trades/Sells & Template:Trades/Buys) where done with a greasemonkey script and this user, this is a 1 time many edits and we as admins can mark the edits as bot to don't show spam on recent changes.

Now, about how you plan to get the info, when I made the Template:Trades/Sells & Template:Trades/Buys edits, I generated a json "database", I can easily update this database to the small changes & fixes done on wiki.

About how the info would be get, I'm not sure how you plan to get the info but I propose these 2 options the bot could use. --Daniel Letalis 23:33, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) The bot use that json "database" to generate what it will edit, with the json info and a template that would require only get_price/get_value subtemplates, the generated tables would look like the ones on Crowbar/Sellto but they would be generated by 1 template call with info extracted by bot from the json "database", if a notes parameter is included in Template:Trades/Sells or Template:Trades/Buys it would be shown on those tables to.
 * 2) The bot generates substituted pages, exactly as Crowbar/Sellto is generated.

But the entire purpose of this system was to have prices updated semi-automatically; rather than editing every page to update information the template would transclude the main item page for that info - which would allow for further cosmetic changes because all information is available (itemtype, npcvalue, etc. etc.). I think what you are suggesting involves editing all articles as the information changes? I'd like it if we had as little possible required maintenance for these templates because a lot of things will be overlooked and there will be inconsistencies everywhere if the project comes to a halt (e.g. nobody runs the script). For that reason I think scripts or bots should be used only for the first edit, which would basically link items to NPCs or vice versa. -- Sixorish 06:26, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

I see your point and again I support this bot, it is safer to have it as bot instead of use an admin account.

I believe these are the hardest item pages, the items linked to Raffael and Rashid specially those at the end of lists and Crowbar because it has the most npcs selling it. Let me know if you need anything I can do. --Daniel Letalis 21:33, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Temahk coded a bot to generate a usable database with the system used in the test environment. See w:c:sixtest:Rashid, w:c:sixtest:Raffael and w:c:sixtest:Crowbar. Some cosmetic changes are still due, but overall I am very happy with these outcomes. Note that I created the templates using the monobook skin, so the interface may be difficult to see under your skin (add ?&useskin=monobook to the articles' urls to see how they are supposed to look)

His program had some problems because it was using | as a delimiter (essentially required given the syntax of our existing trade system), so the notes caused errors on pages with alternate-name links. Alternative text in names were not supported and some pages are broken as a result of that, but I think they should be stored in the notes, as here: w:c:sixtest:Cocktail Glass. He used the local copy (tibia.wikia.com) so any errors on there are probably reflections on the ones here (except for the aforementioned issues caused by the bot). -- Sixorish 18:47, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

It seems to be going good, we don't have many long notes but they don't look very well, maybe an option is to make them css "font-size:xx-small;" if they are longer than X characters, either with template or javascript. --Daniel Letalis 05:13, June 6, 2011 (UTC)

I think part of this project will involve fixing a lot of itemclasses, primarytypes, and secondarytypes because the category sorting as in w:c:sixtest:Black Bert requires that all items follow the same organization. I find that the itemclass is often confused (do we even have a standard for this?). I imaged Black Bert as having an inventory full of "Other Items" (itemclass=Other Items, primarytype=Quest Items...) but I guess about 55%~ actually do. Page load times are pretty bad for some pages, the main issue is that it needs to transclude every item listed to get the necessary information...

Another thing I think needs changing, Special Flask and similar pages. The trades template lists all forms of "Special Flask" considering them all one item, but, they have different purposes and different prices (see Special Flask, monobook). It won't highlight proper values because it assumes the special flask from Bozo is the same special flask from Bert. -- Sixorish 12:53, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Does anyone have any comments, suggestions, proposals, or anything for this system? Also, are we happy with the way w:c:sixtest: is looking or should we focus on another system? I'm not satisfied with the load times but am looking for more efficient ways right now (e.g. with w:c:sixtest:Template:AlgorithmTest which should reduce #if calls by ~50%). We need to keep this project alive to get it done asap. -- Sixorish 21:38, June 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not an active editor now and still don't have time to be one as I was. If there is something to manage the quick and easy jobs for anything then I will obviously support it. Beejay 00:26, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

I haven't had time to completely go through all the code, I will try to check it tomorrow if I have time. --Daniel Letalis 05:05, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Well, there's not much code just yet, the template uses just what is needed for the very basic functionality. I expect the most time-consuming code to analyze would be of the techniques employed for efficiency. So right now, I'm looking for opinions on the visual and functional aspects of it rather than technical/behind-the-scenes. Also, I'm wondering if the format is usable or if it will be confused a lot (on item pages: |Item name | value if value is not npcvalue / npcvaluerook for rook npcs | note. The page needs to be very well formatted because if each NPC is not in unnamed parameters 3n-2, it will cause pages to break.

I expect that the optimized code will take several more days for me to finish because I have never done anything like this using wikitext. -- Sixorish 21:37, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

No suggestions, no proposals, only one comment: don't worry, Six, everything is ok! :)

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 01:39, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

I think I have done everything I can to minimize server resources. The good thing is that NPCs will take long to render, rather than item pages which I believe to be the most accessed articles of the site. There is one other option, and that is to use a centralized page which contains all the data (name, npcvalue, npcprice, itemclass, primarytype, ...) rather than transcluding every article used. The problem is that we'd need to use a bot or (if even possible) a substituted DPL list to update that.

I think the system should be implemented some time within the next two weeks, are there objections to this? -- Sixorish 15:22, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

This is referring to the blog I started earlier of hacklinks
"My friend was hacked through Tibiawiki.

He went onto "Yalahar Quest" and someone edited it. He clicked on a "link" to some "maps" and the link had been changed to a website which automatically downloads some virus onto your computer."

This is copied striaght from tibia.com. I myself do not have the knowledge to investigate it myself. I merely was trying to make people aware that there could potentially be hacklinks going around and that they should be absoluetly sure before clicking ANYTHING.

Regards,

WhyldWhyldJuggalette 19:23, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Could you please provide a link to the thread here or provide a post/thread ID? The "Yalahar Quest", In Service of Yalahar Quest/Spoiler, has not had any vandalism since around May 2009 or so, when page protections were applied... Thanks, -- Sixorish 20:32, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Edit: found this: -- Sixorish 20:42, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Nice of you to check the subject and comment on it, tho we can only handle one wiki there are a few more supported wiki sites for tibia like : Tibia-Wiki.net, and TibiaWiki.com.br (better not link to them) and probably some more unsupported ones.. either way good job --~ Vapaus 21:23, July 22, 2011 (UTC)