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Semantic MediaWiki Extension
I'm just wondering if the Semantic MediaWiki Extension wouldn't be a good addition to TibiaWiki, as it would be able to auto-generate the Items- or Monstertables and you could even search for specific Items (which food-item has a higher Regen/Weight-Rating than normal meat?). You can sort these tables and won't have to worry anymore if they are correct if any item changes (as the changes made in Item-Pages would obviously be ported to the tables). I would be happy to help updating the pages for Semantic MediaWiki.

It looks like it would help (after being initially setup), but I cannot seem to decide if it is the "best" extension to use for this purpose (if Erig decides to implement any).

Here are the ones that I have encountered since I originally read your post to Erig's talk page:


 * Semantic_MediaWiki
 * Seems to be one of the most "advanced", but I do not see alot of room for controlling the output formatting for the lists. The output format that I think we would actually use in this wiki is listed as "unstable" in the documentation. The syntax for implementing the data values is flexible, but unfamiliar, and I think it would be very difficult to maintain with the type of users we have on this wiki.


 * WikiDB
 * In the short amount of time I have researched this topic, I think I like this extension the most. The syntax for defining the pages is very close to the standard template usage, so there would be a small learning-curve, and very little confusion over the change. This one also has an easy syntax for repeating lists using variable substitution and wiki markup, so it looks like it would be a smooth transition for the list pages. This one is also the most highly-structured one I have encountered, which has benefits and drawbacks.


 * DynamicPageList
 * This one has some additional features that are interesting, but I cannot evaluate how it would be used if this extension was implemented. This is the only extension of its kind that I can find that is actually listed as being a "stable" release. Even the Symantic extension is in beta.


 * Infobox_Data_Capture
 * This one looks very simple. I don't think it has the capabilities to do what we would need in this wiki.

The final decision is clearly Erig's to make, and since an extension like this would drastically change the way the articles on this wiki are written, all avenues should be evaluated before deciding on one.

-- Quisque comoedus est  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 09:27, 30 April 2007 (PDT)

NPCs: Ghostlands
Hey Whitelaces, While I was on my mission to make pictures of every NPC in Tibia I came across the 2 Carlin NPCs (actually Ghostland NPCs): A Ghostly Woman and An Apparition. First: when you go to their place you see no name, who came up with those names? Second, since you can't talk to them or something else, are they really NPCs? I don't think so. Maybe we should move them to something else. Please let me know what you think.

 Wie niet slim is moet slim zijn  ^^  &ordm; Bennie &ordm;  &curren; Talk &curren; ^^ 01:08, 6 July 2007 (PDT)

Yes, I know about these npcs.... they disappear if you get too close... that's because they are actually two levels above you. If you stand back and SHIFT+Click ("look") at them... it will tell you "You see an apparition" or "You see a ghostly woman". Because of how slow they walk, I would assume that they are NPCs and not creatures, but there is no way to reach them or talk to them.

Sorta like the mirage in the desert west of Darashia. It is actually two levels above you, so it disappears when you get too close (technically standing under it).

-- Quisque comoedus est  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 05:41, 6 July 2007 (PDT)

Question about your bot
After you did your bot to edit many templates, our life became much easier. But I must ask you, if he ever edit weapon lists. I've browsed some, and they seems to be very out of date due to the many new weapons after 8.0. If your bot don't edit then, let me know and I'll edit then manually until you make some bot for that maybe.

--  &dagger; Pudd Knight &dagger;  Talk  Contribs  -- 19:52, 6 July 2007 (PDT)

First of all, thanks for the compliment. I hope that those bots are helpful.

Second, no, they do not maintain the items lists ... yet. I am still waiting for things to settle down a little bit, but then I will have it update the items lists, too. The reason I'm waiting is because the items template needs to be changed before I turn that bot on.

If you ever want to know if a certain list is updated by my bots, just look at the article source... my bots always add a comment that says the list is updated by a bot.

If any of this is unclear, don't hesitate to ask more specific questions. I'll do what I can to help.

-- A posse ad esse  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 23:04, 6 July 2007 (PDT)