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outfits
I don't know where else to suggest this, so I'll do it here since your character page is the basis of most other people's.

There are templates for damage calculation, for rune making costs, etc. Wouldn't it be cool if there was a template to display which outfits you have on your character? Unfortunately, I lack the knowledge to make this myself. I did think about how the input could be though:

The "sex" attribute would be necessary if the template would show which outfits/addons you have via images, like Pudd Knight does.


 * — Mathias (profile, talk) · Favelets · Formulas — 01:55, 9 January 2007 (PST)

I have been thinking about this a little, but I am kinda stuck on it.

What do you expect it will look like? Just a series of pictures of the outfits you have gained? Would there be some "placeholder" image for outfits you have not obtained? Some fancy formatted table (which would end up taking a full page)?

I kinda want you to think about it a little bit, too, but I also am wondering what you kinda expected.

--'' Magister Mundi sum! '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 10:39, 11 January 2007 (PST)

Well, I just saw your outfits page and I must say I'm impressed. This is a perfect visualisation of what is needed for a certain addon, plus it displays the image :) What I was thinking is something like you did there, but then even more user friendly by putting it all in a template. You could write...

...which would display one of those fancy tables with all required items. In the above example, I'm talking about a template for a full outfit, which would include all items needed to get the outfit and all addons for that outfit. My suggestion would be making separate templates for each outfit/addon. Those templates only include how many of which items are needed, and are based on another template which creates the tables based on the calculated numbers.

I do realise this sounds like a lot of work though :) So don't worry, I'm just sharing my thoughts.


 * — Mathias (profile, talk) · Favelets · Formulas — 02:12, 21 January 2007 (PST)

I think that is do-able, but pretty complicated. I'll try to find some time to work on it this week.

-- Labra lege  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 11:17, 22 January 2007 (PST)

Alright, I finally got around to making some of those templates:


 * Template:Obtained Outfits/Male Summoner Outfit Cape Addon
 * Template:Obtained Outfits/Female Mage Outfit Tiara Addon
 * Template:Obtained Outfits/Assassin Outfit
 * Template:Obtained Outfits/Assassin Outfit Headpiece Addon

I didn't do more than that. Most of the other outfits and addons should not have templates like this, since they only require one kind of item, or only one or two items. These templates only apply to outfits and addons that require a large number of items.

-- Ecce potestas casei  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 09:00, 7 March 2007 (PST)

I'd like to add some more templates I made this morning: I added new base and called it base2 so that it will use Addon 1.gif pictures. It is the same as base just with this little correction. And, btw, preview picture is not good in Assassin Outfit template as it uses base for template, and template:base shows addons, not outfits. I think it should be made another base for showing outfits.  Djomla  Talk Contributions
 * Template:Obtained_Outfits/Male_Druid_Outfit_Paws_Addon
 * Template:Obtained_Outfits/Male_Citizen_Outfit_Backpack_Addon
 * Template:Obtained_Outfits/Male_Pirate_Outfit_Pirate_Sabre_Addon

Thanks for doing that, Djomla, but it was really unnecessary to make ones for the Druid Paw addon, or the Citizen backpack addon... you only need to collect two different kinds of items for these. I won't delete them, but it would probably be best to only make these templates for outfits/addons where you need to collect at least 3-4 different kinds of items.

--'' Omnis Minervae homo Petronius. '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 07:27, 26 March 2007 (PDT)

Well, I saw your comment ("Most of the other outfits and addons should not have templates like this, since they only require one kind of item, or only one or two items.") after I added these templates, so I won't add more "easy-earned" addon templates. I'll add some more temps tonight.  Djomla  Talk Contributions

Awesome! Thanks!

--'' Te audire no possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure. '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 12:19, 26 March 2007 (PDT)

Here they are: I changed a little bit your Assassin Outfit temp to add appropriate image, and than figured out that there was no need for adding base2 as image can be changed without it, but, who will change all that. Keep it as is :) p.s. If u think there should be more temps, just tell, I'll made them.  Djomla   Talk  Contributions
 * Template:Obtained Outfits/Male Oriental Outfit Turban Addon
 * Template:Obtained Outfits/Male Barbarian Outfit Barbarian Wig Addon
 * Template:Obtained Outfits/Male Barbarian Outfit Axe Addon
 * Template:Obtained Outfits/Male Warrior Outfit Shoulder Spike Addon

Thanks, Djomla! These templates don't seem to be used very much yet, but I think it is very useful to have them.

--'' Non curo. Si metrum non habet, non est poema. '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 05:46, 27 March 2007 (PDT)

Heh, I added this one too: I think there should be a page with all templates. I know there is page for unused temps, but haven't find one for all. Btw, visit my page, I use some of these: User:Djomla/Outfits  Djomla  Talk Contributions
 * Template:Obtained Outfits/Male Beggar Outfit

Sounds good.

I was planning to make a page that listed all of them:

Template:Obtained_Outfits

Go ahead and make it there if you like. Otherwise, I'll do it later.

-- Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est.  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 12:08, 27 March 2007 (PDT)

I've made pretty much work tonight: made the page, and Assassin temps moved to Male Ass~ temps, and removed gender from them. Pls see my contributions page. I'll add female temps later, don't have much time now :p  Djomla  Talk Contributions

Mysteries
Is there a page about mysteries in this wiki? (With mysteries I mean things like Colossus in Kazordoon, GM Island, how to talk to Arkhotep etc.) I haven't found one and it would be nice to have one :) Art Featherpitch, the seeker of mysteries

No, there is not a page about mysteries in Tibia yet. The closest thing I think we have in the quest spoiler for the Serpentine Tower Quest... it is incomplete, and there is an ongoing discussion about it on its talk page.

I think I would be a little cautious about making such a page. It would be great to have that information on the wiki, but since I'm sure all of the information it might contain would be considered quest spoiling, it needs to be done carefully.

Maybe the page could be exclusively "Unsolved Mysteries".... then as soon as any confirmed information is discovered, that particular item is moved to its own quest page/spoiler (like the Serpentine Tower Quest).

--'' Feles mala! '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 05:32, 30 March 2007 (PDT)

regarding the infobox
I have seen and also worked along with your new adjustment of the infoboxes to automatically include the items category whilst checking the item class. I would like to know if what you have done works in both ways with the creatures, too. (As in, for example in a Fire Elemental page to display who are the elementals of Tibia and so on). If the infobox is edited to work that way, let me know, and I'll add the templates and remove the category links in the pages, the same way I did with the helmets, light sources, food and other stuff along with Pudd.

Edit: I have seen how the infobox works, it checks the class and tries to find the corresponding page in the templates pages.. perhaps we should edit it to include another parsing to the template Infobox_Creature, in a way we could add the race of the creature and thus adjust to the new template standard you have created.

Thanks, 09:36, 1 April 2007 (PDT)

For creatures, it is more complicated than that. I'm still trying to figure out something good for creatures... I'm sure it will look a lot like the new lists for items, but I haven't figured out how it will work behind the scenes yet.

--'' Delenda est Carthago. '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 07:22, 2 April 2007 (PDT)

New Monster
new monster: the imperor

It is already in TibiaWiki, feel free to improve its page: The Imperor --Ville-v 03:30, 1 April 2007 (PDT)

Thanks for the update, Erig... It's nice to have those kill stats back! The wiki editors seem to be pretty efficient about adding stuff, but please continue to keep me up-to-date with new creatures you find!

-- non compos mentis  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 07:36, 2 April 2007 (PDT)

new monster: magic pillars

I guess it is already in Wiki as well, but Cip uses different name about some of the Traps (maybe Magicthrower) --Ville-v 00:35, 4 April 2007 (PDT)

That's interesting... is that maybe like "elemental forces"? Where the Magicthrower, Flame thrower, Lava Hole, Shredderthrower, etc. are all called "Magic Pillars"?

-- <span title="(latin) Your fly is open">Braccae tuae aperiuntur  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 05:38, 4 April 2007 (PDT)

Maybe somebody should test it by dying and looking what kill statistics say :P --Ville-v 23:34, 4 April 2007 (PDT)

Haha. Anyway, I was browsing the kill stats, and magic pillar is separate from magicthrower, shredderthrower, etc... so it must be a new one... unless CIP changed the name of one of these others. I'll go ahead and add a new page for it.

-- <span title="(latin) I came, I saw, I want to go home">Veni, vidi, volo in domum redire  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 05:59, 5 April 2007 (PDT)

According to Ferumbras page, "Also there are 2 Magic Pillars at his room, which can summon up to 3 Demons each."

If this is true, anybody killed by Demons in Ferumbras' Room (when Ferumbras isn't there) would show in kill statistics as "killed by magic pillar".

Somebody should test it, by going there, killing normal spawn, and watching if more demons are being summoned (by pillars). --Ville-v 05:15, 9 April 2007 (PDT)

Items' Category Revision
Hello there. I've thought about doing a full revision on all items pages, to fix their categories (and their respective lists). I know it will be a huge job, but I'm up to it. I'll also take the chance for applying certain standards (like weight always with YY.X0 oz, etc). However, I supposed you could be working with similar project, so I'm asking here first to avoid working uselessly on something that will change in a near future. So, let me know what are your plans and I'll be able, then, to know what exactly to work with ^^

15:40, 3 April 2007 (PDT)

I think that would be fine, to fix the "itemclass" for the items... it has been a while since that's been done across the board, and I don't have any "big plans" to change how that works.

Keep in mind, that items can only have one "itemclass", but they can belong to multiple categories. Clearly the "itemclass" should be the primary group that the item belongs to.

Good luck updating the items!

-- <span title="(latin) I can't believe I ate the whole thing">Non possum credere me totum edisse  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 05:46, 4 April 2007 (PDT)

Also I think that we should remove all   templates, so you could add it direct to the infobox, maybe me, master player and even maverick could do this in no time... since he'll start something we could do it altogether.. just tell me if the idea sounds good :)

--  &dagger; Pudd Knight &dagger;  Talk <span style="small-caps; border: 0px solid #186fc8; background-color:White; color:#186fc8" title="My Contributions"> Contribs  -- 08:31, 4 April 2007 (PDT)

Sounds fine with me. I do not have any objections based on this conversation.

--'' <span title="(latin) I can't hear you. I have a banana in my ear.">Te audire no possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure. '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 08:36, 4 April 2007 (PDT)

Sounds ok with me, just let me know if I need to remove the items template, and I'll talk with Pudd.

09:01, 4 April 2007 (PDT)

DONE!!!! (tired) Now you can update the infobox as you wish.

--  &dagger; Pudd Knight &dagger;  Talk <span style="small-caps; border: 0px solid #186fc8; background-color:White; color:#186fc8" title="My Contributions"> Contribs  -- 22:34, 5 April 2007 (PDT)

It is done. :) Let us know if you need anything else, White. -- Maverick the hunter ω talk ω contribs 00:21, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

I was adding the items template to the Infobox_Item template, and there is going to be an unforeseen side-effect... and spoiler tags and everything placed outside of the infobox template will be pushed to the bottom of the page. This makes any notes like this basically "hidden" on the bottom of the page. As I see it, we have two options (don't hate me, I'm only the messenger):


 * 1) re-add the items template to the bottom of every page (I don't like this idea very much)
 * 2) find every place that has any text placed outside the infobox template, and move it into the "notes" section of the infobox (better solution, but still lots of work)
 * 3) leave the items template off and pretend it doesn't exist (also seems like a poor solution, but would simplify the issue)

Is there any other ideas? What do you guys think?

-- <span title="(latin) Thank you for not smoking">Tibi gratias agimus quod nihil fumas  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 06:17, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

I had this on mind, a long time ago.. ;P In the start I added the spoiler inside notes and then moved out... well I think solution 2 is fair better and easier. Leaving pages without item template would be a "poor" way, spoilers, we have many but including items again is much harder.. I'll start moving spoilers to notes today, not now, but tonight

--  &dagger; Pudd Knight &dagger;  Talk <span style="small-caps; border: 0px solid #186fc8; background-color:White; color:#186fc8" title="My Contributions"> Contribs  -- 12:24, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

I don't like the idea of not leaving the items template, however we could try to work a roundabout on this issue. You could, for instance create something that would work a lot like the spoiler extension, but instead of being the spoiler, it's something that would show "Click here to show all the items classes". That way, it would work a lot better, by clicking in that button, it would extend the boxes with the items category, and beneath it, it would show the spoiler information. It's still weird, but better than leaving the pages without any kind of items template, and it could even be fixed alongside the spoiler information without making the page too messy.

It's your call, though. -- Maverick the hunter ω talk ω contribs 12:27, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

There seems to be some limitation in the wiki software that will not allow the spoiler block to be used in a template... it has to be on the final page.... what that means is we cannot use the spoiler tags in the Infobox Item template... anything in the spoiler tags seems to be discarded.

I think the best solution is to move the spoilers and other things into the notes section of the infobox, but I am still open to more ideas.

--'' <span title="(latin) May barbarians invade your personal space!">Utinam barbari spatium proprium tuum invadant! '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 12:33, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

When the item has multiple attributes, they are added following way:

Attributes: attr1 attr2 attr3

Couldn't you add comma between them? Then it would look like

Attributes: attr1, attr2, attr3

It would be clearer that way. --Ville-v 05:08, 9 April 2007 (PDT)

First of all... I had not thought about items being included through the "Featured" item template... you are correct. It would be best to leave the "noinclude" tags around the spoilers.

Next... I will look at adding commas between attributes. Commas were not originally added because it would have involved more processing for some simple formatting, but I'll see if I can find a "good" way to do it that will not impact the server any more than necessary.

-- <span title="(latin) Stupid is as stupid does">Stultus est sicut stultus facit  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 07:09, 9 April 2007 (PDT)

Vandal: Brogdon
The user Brogdon ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [/&bot=1 bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary.

Quests, Unused Sprites, Library, Orshabaal and Books pages (so far) were replaced with silly messages submited by him. I've undone his changes, but I believe he's no going to stop soon.

12:02, 4 April 2007 (PDT)

Thanks for the report. He has been temporarily blocked from editing.

-- <span title="(latin) If catapults are outlawed, then only outlaws will have catapults">Cum catapultae proscriptae erat, tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 12:08, 4 April 2007 (PDT)

Signature
I know this might sound like a newbie question, but since i am a newbie i thought i shld ask. How do u get the templates for your signatures and how do u add it to be in your signature?--Karim 13:22, 4 April 2007 (PDT)

Have a look on this tip ;)

13:32, 4 April 2007 (PDT)

Yup... I wrote that tip a while ago. It should explain everything. There are also some more interesting tips and tricks on the TibiaWiki:Tip page.

If you have any more questions, or if you still can't figure it out, please let me know!

-- <span title="(latin) Completely naked">in puris naturalibus  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 13:48, 4 April 2007 (PDT)

well the tips are realy good, the problem i have is adding a sub page, the 1 on wikipedia doesnt rele explain alot, i always end up adding a url to my site--Karim 16:16, 4 April 2007 (PDT)

http://tibia.erig.net/User:Karim/Signature

thats your sig ;] --  Farscaper  Talk   -- 16:20, 4 April 2007 (PDT)

what the... XD how did u remove the url though?--  &psi; Karim &psi;  Talk <span style="small-caps; border: 0px solid #186fc8; background-color:White; color:#666699" title="My Contributions"> Contriutions  16:32, 4 April 2007 (PDT)

Karim, You wrote Contributions without that marked B :P Art Featherpitch

Hehehe thnx man--  &psi; Karim &psi;  Talk <span style="small-caps; border: 0px solid #186fc8; background-color:White; color:#666699" title="My Contributions"> Contributions  02:01, 5 April 2007 (PDT)

If I also want to have a signature can u help me plx whitelaces and plx answere my question about tibianews.

♥♦♣♠Asklan♠♣♦♥

Sure... check out that Tip about the signatures... if you still can't figure it out, post your specific questions here.

-- <span title="(latin) If it isn't broke, don't fix it">Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 11:53, 5 April 2007 (PDT)

--- ty whitelaces for the tip now I have my own sign here ty and also u can have a template for the signs explaining the colors and signs

 Asklan &dagger;  Talk &dagger;  15:34, 5 April 2007 (PDT)

About key list
I was adding missing list for the items infobox, and then on the keys I got a doubt:

Making a list of colors (cooper, silver, etc) or make a list like it's on the keys page, refering to their places... ?

--  &dagger; Pudd Knight &dagger;  Talk <span style="small-caps; border: 0px solid #186fc8; background-color:White; color:#186fc8" title="My Contributions"> Contribs  -- 21:19, 5 April 2007 (PDT)

Another option would be listing the keys in numerical order. Depending on how the list will look, numerical might be the cleanest approach. ~ Uno time

The other option would be to just have "Keys_List" be a full list of all keys... probably sorted numerically.

What do you think would be most useful? When looking at a key page, what makes the most sense for a list on the side?

--'' <span title="(latin) Say, you sure are drinking a lot.">Re vera, potas bene. '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 06:20, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

In my opinion as a player, I would first search for their color (example, I have a cooper key #xxxx I'll see cooper keys). BUT, sorting then numerical is somehow better, since every key, doesn't matter the color have your own number, the color is just some reference... but what do you think is better? Numerical or color? (I just discard the location sorting, it's completely useless)

--  &dagger; Pudd Knight &dagger;  Talk <span style="small-caps; border: 0px solid #186fc8; background-color:White; color:#186fc8" title="My Contributions"> Contribs  -- 12:28, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

I think the key list by numerical order is good u can follow the exampleof the fansite Tibiahispano in their section of keys  Asklan &dagger;  Talk &dagger;  12:44, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

That would be the easiest way to do it, but consider this.... there seems to be two main ways that people look for keys. First of all... they might have the key number, and want to know what the key is for... another common thing is that a person comes across a locked door, and wants to know which key fits it.

As far as I know, both of these scenarios are common, and I don't know which would be "best" to use on the key pages.

Maybe there's an alternative to the lists like we have on items pages? Any ideas?

-- <span title="(latin) Yes, that is a very large amount of corn.">Aio, quantitas magna frumentorum est.  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 12:49, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

Yes you can make the key list kinda the same as quest list to put a kinda page as in order of quests instead of looking in number order by place. (Slect by number or select by place)

 Asklan &dagger;  Talk &dagger;  12:55, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

Well, then we could add to the end of the list in small font a link "see also doors and their respectives keys" (or something similar) this link would the Keys page.. what do you think?

--  &dagger; Pudd Knight &dagger;  Talk <span style="small-caps; border: 0px solid #186fc8; background-color:White; color:#186fc8" title="My Contributions"> Contribs  -- 13:06, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

The present Keys page already is divided by area, so what do you mean by sorting it by doors? Once nice thing to do for each key, as it is still possible, is to provide a picture or link (tibia.pl?) to the corresponding location of the key's door. If this is done, should it be in a spoiler or not? I think that if a side list is made it should be by area (doors?) since the template already links to the Numerical List of Keys. I tend to have an idea of where most keys come from, but maybe others prefer to check by number..? Also could not two lists be added of location and numerical? --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 15:28, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

Creature Templates
As you may or may not have noticed, I have been trying to make the creature pages more identical to each other (though not as fast as I had hoped). I have a couple of proposals concerning the creature pages. First, I would like to propose the deletion of the sub-sub-templates (ie necromancers) as most of the creatures in these categorys can be shared among many creatures and just seems to make an uneccesary loop in finding creatures. Second, I like how the item lists turned out and I was wondering if that could be done with the creature sub templates (ie human-like, animals). I don't know much about coding so I would probably need someone else to create the template. If a list template was created for each sub category, that would also make the previous sub templates deletable. Thanks and I can't wait to hear from you. ~ Uno time

I agree. Yes, I am working on a way to add lists similar to the items list, but there are some issues I need to work out first (I want to do it right the first time).

Expect to see something in the next week or so. Until then, it's probably best to just leave the "sub-sub-templates" as they are.

--'' <span title="(latin) How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?">Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari? '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 10:47, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

I have an idea, maybe very simple and not creative, but it would copy somehow items infobox... Add a list of similar creatures to the right, and create a template similar to for creatures. It's not an original idea, but I think it's better than many sub sub sub templates..

--  &dagger; Pudd Knight &dagger;  Talk <span style="small-caps; border: 0px solid #186fc8; background-color:White; color:#186fc8" title="My Contributions"> Contribs  -- 12:33, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

One of the issues with creatures is that there is no "creaturetype" or "class" value, and I'm not sure how easy it would be to choose one for each creature (Maverick suggested this before). I am trying to figure out a "good" way to have multiple lists for any given creature, but the largest problem seems to be formatting and appearance... I'm having trouble getting something that is functional, looks good and is easy to read. I'm also in the middle of another project... but hopefully I'll get to this one soon.

-- <span title="(latin) Nobody expects the spanish inquisition">Nemo Hispanic Inquisition expectat  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 12:51, 6 April 2007 (PDT)

Spoilers
I've moved mostly spoilers to notes field with some help from Maverick.

I've checked almost every item, but some items that that are obviously not used in quest, like most rubbish items and some other items I din't checked, so there's maybe one or another item needing spoiler move, but I'm sure 95%+ are OK. Also about the noinclude tags, I've added to some items, in the start I was not adding. I think it's necessary, as happened to Soft Boots, it appear on the main page and it's somehow strange, also for instruments, the notes field appear in the instruments list, so I added to all other edits noinclude tags to prevent anything like that. That was a hard work, but I think now there's nothing more to change to add items template on the infobox (if there's something else, this time I'll be surprised).

That's all for now

--  &dagger; Pudd Knight &dagger;  Talk <span style="small-caps; border: 0px solid #186fc8; background-color:White; color:#186fc8" title="My Contributions"> Contribs  -- 14:08, 8 April 2007 (PDT)

After doing that combo of edits, me and Pudd found out that there isn't a template for Quest Items to adequate with your latter infobox adjustment, and after we found it out, we figured it might of fall under the category of quest spoiling if we add it. This is because someone watching the Ice Pick page might see the item that is needed in a following mission, therefore we haven't done anything.

There are a lot of items that are still unsorted, but I'll keep finding them and fixing them out. If you need any major editing to adequate within your infobox adjustment please let us know. Although like Pudd had forementioned, it's hard to think anything else needed to be done..

-- Maverick the hunter ω talk ω contribs 19:13, 8 April 2007 (PDT)

You were right about the noinclude tags, Pudd. I didn't remember about the "Featured" template for items, and I was thinking that the "notes" were not used in any other templates.

I added the items template to the infobox. If you guys see anything else the looks weird with it, let me know. Thanks for all the hard work!

-- <span title="(latin) If you can read this you're over-educated">Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 07:56, 9 April 2007 (PDT)

I'm not sure, but it seems these changes created a "huge" bug on several templates, just like on Character_Information. After some tests, Maverick and I concluded it has to do with the items, and these seem to be the only changes that were made to them recently.

15:00, 9 April 2007 (PDT)

gold coins
why it says on loot pages that "unknown" monster drops goldcoins

cant we make a item oage about gold and platinum coins? --  Farscaper  Talk   -- 11:51, 9 April 2007 (PDT)

Just saying am very sorry for making those eddits, I dint knew what to do when i saw him saying he is vandalising the site. I chose to revert his eddits and now i know thats not the best option, I will not make that again i dont whant to get banned from making eddits I whish to keep adding more good info to help players of Tibia. Still think we should keep an eye in "warlord" eddits some of them are clearly wrong and the small eddits in monsters attacks seems like ramdom numbers he choose to add. -  Kwigon the sharpshooter  Talk   -April-9-2007.

Troublesome bug
I don't know what the heck is wrong, but I think that after your latter infobox item adjustment, all the templates that had the equips set are jerked. Check your character page and it shows that there is an unrecognised expression in there. The same goes for most of the pages, I don't know what's wrong neither do I know how to debug the problem..

Hope you can do something about it, -- Maverick the hunter ω talk ω contribs 15:12, 9 April 2007 (PDT)

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The user Bluegel ( talk &bull; contribs &bull; [/&bot=1 bot contribs] &bull; [ block log] &bull; block ) has vandalized. Please review their edits and take appropriate actions if necessary.

Sincerely, -- 18:39, 9 April 2007 (PDT)

Bluegel has been blocked for 1 month. --Erig 19:00, 9 April 2007 (PDT)

Thanks for the report, Genosonic, and Thanks for taking care of it, Erig.

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