Talk:Achievements

Achievements Talk Page Archive 1
This talk page becomes too long, and it will keep growing (every update will be new achievemnts), then the closed discussions will be moved to one archive.

Talk:Achievements/Archive 1 Summary:
 * Achievements, How to earn achievements? (reason: old comments)
 * Jamjam, Just In Time, Exquisite Taste (reason: spoilers completed)
 * Rockstar, The Milkman, Territorial, Ministrel (reason: spoilers completed)
 * Curious Cat (reason: this achievement didnt was introduced in the update)
 * Superstitious (reason: spoiler completed)
 * Party Lover, Vegetarian (reason: fake achievements)

Sez The Withe 17:43, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Achievements Talk Page Archive 2
Talk:Achievements/Archive 2 Summary:
 * magic carpet, Just posting a couple mistakes (reason: old comments)
 * Polisher, Culinary Master, Vanity (reason: spoilers completed)
 * Allowance collector, Cocoon of Doom (reason: spoilers completed)

Juan Ariel 17:56, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Notice (Tracker)
There are still 34 (54/88) missing secret achievements. Also, this is a list of all of the achievements still missing descriptions and/or spoilers:


 * Castlemania (missing spoiler, see discussion)
 * His True Face (missing spoiler)
 * Brutal Politeness (missing spoiler)
 * Wild Warrior (missing spoiler)

The following achievements spoilers are not accurate, not confirmed or may have multiple requeriments:


 * Ship's Kobold (spoiler incomplete, the number of boat travels needs to be confirmed)

Note: This is just a Tracker, please do not add comments here, use the appropiate category.

Why replace the text "Secret" for Images?
Seriously, I can't see any reason why gif images would be better than plain text. I think a lot of people enjoy checking what new secret achievement someone just got and it was as easy as scrolling over the content section looking for the "(secret)" text or just using the Find feature of any browser.

Now all the "(secret)" texts were replaced by a gif image which makes it just impossible to do that and you have to look in a 600 lines page (and growing!) looking for an image which tries to hide from you between pink spoiler blocks.

Also, achievements will be added every update from now on, so it would need a better way to display all that information very soon.

Lets start the discussion! What do you guys think about that? :)

Wily Wonkas 23:08, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Images look nice but u r right, it is harder to look for the secret achievements with images. With or without images I think achievements need to be split by secret/no secret. I guess that split by points, secret and grade would make page harder to read so. I would say that we split and sort as in tibia.com, split by grade use image for secret achievements and use different naming in the titles like: Bearhugger 1P, Jamjam 5P (Secret)

Will comment later if I get another better idea. --Daniel Letalis 23:23, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

I propose make the Achievements page like the Quests page, with a brief explanation of what is a achievement, and a list of all the achievements (maybe a table DPL? whith the achievement, points, secret or no, etc).

And make one page for every achievement, and put the spoiler like in the quests pages. For example, the ministrel achievement, its harder to go to the ancient tombs quest page, and after find the vasherasum part, and then go to the tomb. In the ministrel achievement page we can put only the location of the tomb, how u must play the instruments, and where is the NPC just in case you have troubles getting the achievement. And we can put tips in the single pages, for example, for the achievement of fly 1000 times in the carpet, you can use the route darashia-edron (just 30gps with postman) Sez The Withe 05:19, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe put everything in table? It will be much more easier to read.

Leree 23:00, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think a separate page for each achievement is necessary. After all, getting each achievement requires only the completion of certain parts of quests or performing one action numerous times. I agree, though, that having (Secret) next to the title would make it easier to search for achievements in the TOC. Kharzad Ironfist 17:48, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but there are also some achievements more complicated, see Ministrel, where is the NPC? and the garden?, or poet laurate, where is the book? how you will put those instructions on the achievements page? Sez The Withe 17:59, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

The less text used, the better. The page is already too clumsy to navigate well. Minstrel isn't complicated at all: The only information needed is that one needs to play the instruments to access Vashresamun's chamber. If absolutely necessary, there can be a link to the spoiler on the The Ancient Tombs Quest/Spoiler to the portion on his tomb. There's no reason to have repeated information on a page if that content already exists on another. Poet Laureate seems to do a good job already, a couple links to map locations and to the book in quest, and it looks easy enough to keep in a couple sentences.

Getting rid of the TOC would help, too. It is over 3 pages long in my notebook's browser. On another topic, using charts would probably make the page easier to use. Considering the page has no text content other than the achievements and their descriptions, it'd make sense. The problem is that charts are really boring with pictures, e.g. (text continues after the table) This probably isn't a great chart, but I'm not too good with wiki markup.

The current achievements page prints to 14 8.5*11 inch pieces of paper. That's with the spoilers hidden. It's 26 pages long with the spoilers revealed. Considering the actual amount of content is very low, that's not a good use of vertical space. The spoilers are the only real content (the descriptions are listed on Tibia.com for most achievements, after all) and this content makes up less than half of the page's size. Just some thoughts. Kharzad Ironfist 18:17, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

First, youre wrong! Ministrel needs you to talk with one NPC, i did without the talk, but others players only won the achievement after talk with The Crone. So, you must put that in the spoiler. And in The Ancient Tombs Quest there is none reference to this, or references to the book for Poet Laurate.

Second, we should put tips for achievements. Like "Edron Cormaya" is te cheapest way to obtain "Ships Kobold", and this becomes the page more long.

Third, every update will be more achievements, and the page will become longer and longer...

Sez The Withe 18:37, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Really? The current spoiler for Minstrel just has playing the instruments listed. Anyway, do you really think a page with the content "Take the Edron-Cormaya boat 1000 times" makes sense? There are currently 93 achievements. The content for each page would be a couple sentences, at most. There's no legitimate reason for 93 'stubs' to flood the wiki. Tips? Do you really think they're necessary? How many achievements would need them and how many players who are able to complete the quest would actually need the tip? If they're premium and experienced enough to afford the trips, it shouldn't be hard for them to figure it out. What I'm saying is that because of the length of the page, every possible effort should be made to minimize its length, not the opposite. It's bad page design, especially when over 50% of the content is copied directly from publicly available information on tibia.com. I don't think any achievement currently listed would require more than one long sentence or two short/medium sentences to spoil the entire process. Kharzad Ironfist 18:58, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

How about making one page for Grade 1 achievements, one page for Grade 1 secret achievements, one page for Grade 2 achievements and so on?

Nevaran 19:01, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

I'd go with Nevaran's idea. There's plenty of information that can be wrote about the achievements alone and what is wrote there now should be rewrote anyway (hence the review). Putting the grades of achievements onto separate pages would make it easier to read and will prevent all the messing about of creating separate pages for each achievement. Beejay 19:31, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

I have just made the pages Achievements Grade 1, Achievements Grade 2 and Achievements Grade 3. About the TOC, I think it should remain on the pages, when the lists get bigger it makes it much easier to find what you are looking for, besides, you can hide the table of contents. I'm not sure about the table being appropriate.

The table you made Kharzad is fine, but some quests may indeed need bigger spoilers, in that way, either the description part would need to be shorter or leave them with a rather large spoiler sticking out. Then again, we could just have a list of the achievements without the spoilers on the achievements page, and link to them on their corresponding page, e.g. Achievements Grade 1, or something. Beejay 20:25, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

How about put grades in different tables(eg. big font "grade 1", table, big font "grade 2", table ...)? This page is really big and a bit unreadable. Leree 07:44, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Aww, it's ugly now. Maybe instead of that "click here for spoiler...", put there a small text or graphics which will link to a popup window with spoiler. Also we can add another column to that table: required level. Also, instead of digit in 'Grade' column, there should be graphics with stars, like on tibia.com. Crystalix 14:26, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

I don't like the new look of achievements page, old one was way better - SIGMA

I didn't know this was controversial at all, I obviously should have asked first. I posted a poll on the Main Page, which will help us decide whether to keep the new look or get the old one back. Please post any ideas for improvement. Using stars instead of digits for the grading is possible, I will take a look tomorrow. A popup for the spoiler is... too hard for me, but maybe somebody else can make that. Although there might be other (better) ideas to make the spoilers more attractive/easier to read. Another column with required lvl is feasible, but seems a little unneccesary for me, since this info can also be seen at the coresponding quest page (and if you don't have to do a quest for the achievement the lvl required is usually 0). ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 15:42, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

I like it..But I think the width of the collumn containing the spoiler is too narrow, that, and the spoiler template looks too big and messes up the table. Perhaps another spoiler template could be used to help make this look more attractive? Beejay 16:14, September 20, 2010 (UTC)  Craggles  ಠ_ಠ  Talk ∙ Contribs  20:00, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed a couple of things

Added the stars, Craggles: your thing works perfectly well :D I wonder though, if the css code "display: none" would work too (depends on if the text only gets hidden from the viewer or also become non-readable in the source). That would probably be a "cleaner coding fix" (although I have absolutely no right to judge such a thing). ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 21:36, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

 Craggles  ಠ_ಠ  Talk ∙ Contribs  08:35, September 21, 2010 (UTC)  Craggles  ಠ_ಠ  Talk ∙ Contribs  08:40, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll give it a go. I would prefer it rather than my code. Also could we add ticks and crosses for premium? I like colour and I like the tick cross system.
 * Looks like it worked.

Ok, that's cool! I'm ok with a tick/cross system, dunno about everybody else. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 09:03, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

It looks much better now! One little thing is that the ticks and crosses are not exactly sortable, I could see people wanting to sort these by that as well. Beejay 12:06, September 21, 2010 (UTC)  Craggles  <span style="align:right;background:#FFFFFF; border:1px solid #000091; padding:1px; margin-left:0px; font-size:90%;border-left:0px">ಠ_ಠ <span style="background:#DBDBDB; border:1px solid #000091; border-left:0px; padding:1px; margin-right:6px; font-size:90%;"> <font color="#6e86ff">Talk ∙ <font color="#6e86ff">Contribs  16:05, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * My bad, forgot to add sorting when I updated it. Bennie fixed that though.

Good work guys, looks much better now :) Crystalix 12:08, September 21, 2010 (UTC) <span style="align:right;background:#FFFFFF; border:1px solid #000091; padding:1px; margin-left:4px; font-size:90%;"> Craggles  <span style="align:right;background:#FFFFFF; border:1px solid #000091; padding:1px; margin-left:0px; font-size:90%;border-left:0px">ಠ_ಠ <span style="background:#DBDBDB; border:1px solid #000091; border-left:0px; padding:1px; margin-right:6px; font-size:90%;"> <font color="#6e86ff">Talk ∙ <font color="#6e86ff">Contribs  11:48, September 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Anyone know why the secrets image won't align properly vertically. For some reason it does on hericibe, but it's too high on all the other entries. Wierd.

I've never actually noticed that.. Unfortunately I have no idea on how to fix it either..

The new way: I like how you get more achievements into one space. I'm still not a big fan of the spoiler, when opening it creates a huge gap for the achievements description and that doesn't look attractive.

The old way: I'm not sure why but I still like this way a lot.. Maybe I just don't think a table is right for TibiaWiki, even if I can think of more positives to the table. Think I am going to have to think a bit more on this, still kind of prefer the old messier way. Beejay 02:53, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Animal Activist
Everyone who has it, doesn't know why and everyone doesn't have it, wants it! Anyone have any ideas? User:jigarbov

Maybe the mission for scatterbrained sorcerer where you should kill bats but not hurt the kittens?

Nevaran 18:42, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

No, a guy on my server has it and he's was far too high level to do any eclesius tasks when he was added. we can also rule out the cattle/warbeasts from yalahar. I have also completed the baby seal mission in svargrond and dont have it. User:jigarbov

There are not achievements in quests with maximum lvl requeriment (like Eclesius Quest), so, it must be another quest, but i already have it with my 2 main chars, so i cant test another quests

Have you tried the mission 5 of the ice islands quest? Nibelor: Cure the Dogs Maybe you get it in that mission. Sez The Withe 21:42, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Ice_Islands_Quest/Spoiler#Nibelor_5:_Cure_the_Dogs

I've completed all Ice islands so it can't be that either. starting to run out of ideas. User:jigarbov

Well, if you have lot of quest done, i can try using elimination between your quest and my quests, if u want, post in my talk page all the quest u have completed, and i will give u some ideas. Sez The Withe 14:12, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I figured it out, kill a husky, then pay for it. I didn't realise I had killed a husky but when I paid for it I got the achievement. User:jigarbov

I've completed all quest(without Killing in the Name of... Quest and The Demon Oak Quest) I had killed a husky and paid for it but i didn't got an achievement. As jigarbov wrote maybe i have chosen wrong site in yalahar quest. User:Leree

You have to say 'Cattle' in 5th mission of In Service of Yalahar quest instead of 'Warbeasts'. But probably it is not all, you have to have other quests too.

Who did you pay? I paid mine at the guy by the dog sled. it happened immeditatley after i said "yes" when he said "I heard you were killing huskys and now you have to pay 500 gold" So I am sure that killing/paying for a husky is at least part of it. Cheyanna said that the cattle/warbeast mission has nothing to do with this achievement. She said "if that was possible, all the people that chose warbeast couldn't get this achievement. which is incorrect" I can't really think of any other requirements. maybe you have to use hams on the dog sleds some times or something? User:jigarbov

I don't know. I've chosen palimuth's way(cattle) in this mission. I've killed huskies few times and wasted 5k for payments. I still don't have this achievement Leree

I think that killing animals is exactly the opposite of the achievement description. The only tasks I can think of that fit the description are healing the wounded dog in the Ice Islands Quest, and some or all portions of the druid addons quests. Kharzad Ironfist 20:04, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

I would try the mission where you must paint baby seals, from the The Ice Islands Quest, MaveAntica 20:14, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

I don't have any addon on my main character and he unlucked the animal activist, so I am not sure what do u need to do obtain that achievement. Juan Ariel 20:13, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

I can confirm: In Service of Yalahar or the Druid addons are NOT necesary for this achievement. The problem is i dont know what its necesary xD Sez The Withe 21:17, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

The Shattered Isles Quest/Spoiler. Case closed. :) Beejay 19:07, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

I got the achievement after paying for the husky, and I had done the tortoise egg thing before, so I guess this achievement requires different things to be done. MaveAntica 19:29, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Erm.. Then I shall readd that! For some reason I had blanked that part of the discussion out of my mind. Beejay 19:34, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, when I think about this achievement, I know for a fact that I have never paid for killing a husky, yet I have the achievement thanks to the "account achievements". So I am not sure which character I have this achievement on, but I can only assume that it is from one of two or both characters which have done the turning in of the Tortoise Egg from Nargor. Beejay 23:35, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's only for The Shattered Isles Quest/Spoiler but if you have killed husky you simply won't get achievement until you pay for the loss... W miki 00:39, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

I painted the seals, gave Striker the egg, and have no outstanding doggy debts and I do not have the achievement, so there's probably something else. I haven't actively played since a bit before Yalahar was released, so there might be something additional in Yalahar, Farmine, Beregar, or Zao that is animal-related and necessary as I have completed just about every level <=50 quest through and including Svargrond. Kharzad Ironfist 01:16, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

I really think this achievement is obtained through a quest from Svargrond. Why that? I have it in both main characters of mine, and one has not even started the The Shattered Isles Quest/Spoiler, still both have already done up to the mission after the one you have to destroy that ship in Tyrsung. Yea, I have never killed a husky before, but as you guys told, it doesn't matter. You just have to pay for it and then this achievement appears somehow :p User:Lu Ajudante

Maybe there are other ways of obtaining this achievement then. I got it immediately after giving the egg to Duncan and never killed a husky on the same char. A friend had done the egg mission and only got the achievement after paying for the huskies he had killed in the past. XCedric 23:38, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Are the achievement points correct?
I copied all the achievements from my character page on tibia.com into an excel spreadsheet and added the points (that I find here on wiki) for each one and compared to the total amount of points I have on tibia.com.

There are two achievements that I'm not sure if I got on my main character so I did not add those points.

This is a screenshot of the spreadsheet: My Achievement Points

My question is if the points that are added to wiki are correct? As you can see in the screenshot I have 108 points on tibia.com. I have 102 points (+ two achievements that I don't know if I have done). The points just doesn't add up.

Nevaran 15:32, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well, animal activist gives 2 points, and his true face can't give more than 3, so that give us 5 more points, plus your 102 are just 107 points.

So, yes, 1 achievement its wrong. Sez The Withe 16:14, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well, as someone said before, i'm 100% sure that Just in Time is not only about Ice Delivery Mission, since i got full explorer society quest in my char and i didn't got that achievement. Also, i don't have rashid and kissing a pig (or w/e that name is), so maybe one of those are needed too.

Another mistake i found is about Ghostwhisper... i'm sure it's not only completing mission 4 of new quest, cuz i did it on 2 chars and didn't got the achievement. My friend, who did with me, got it saying the same things i did to npcs. So if anyone has any idea about how to get that too i'll be glad to hear.

To finish, i'm working there are some errors on achievement points here, since i calculated 3x and mine achievements + points doesn't match. (i got more points on tibia.com then here).

Posted by: http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/User:Mejenour

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Sez The Withe 17:00, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

Are you guys sure the marbelous/clayfighter achievements are grade 1 ones? If my information about Obtaining them is correct It's very hard to obtain them The preceding awesome comment was added by Dottie (talk• contribs). Remember to sign your comments! 18:32, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

"@Sculpting Achievements:

I lowered the requirement to one perfect statue each and set the points to 3. In addition to that, I added a higher graded achievement each."

I'm not actually sure what this means regarding what they are listed as currently, this post was made by Chayenne on 28th June. Passionate kisser = 3 points, Territorial + Secret Service = 5 points. Might be easier if we make another page and test each out separately and remove the ones that we are sure about. Beejay 20:55, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I just made a small list of the achievements here and the sections they are currently in. Bolded ones are with the correct points, just to make it a little easier to see. Feel free to change or add to this page, if you would like. Beejay 21:44, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I sorted achievements by amount of points like it was on test site, achievements was sorted by points there in the first days of test server, but later they changed it, coz one tutor complain that they are messed, and he can't find a clue why they aren't listed alphabetically. Later Chayenne was made some corrections, so yes, we need to confirm all points again.

Ghostwhisper, you need for sure to talk with ghosts to have it, including that new ones on Banuta, in Svargrond mines, maybe on Vengoth.Crystalix

Matchmaker gives 1 point for sure, that's the only one achievemnt I have done with one of my low level characters. Fraen 09:51, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

I made an excel file too with all my characters, and only my knight have the points incorrect (144 on the page, but 141 based on wikia info), so the next achievements can be innacurate: Chorister, Beach Tamer, SeaScout, Champion of Chazorai, Golem in the Gears, Ruthless, Annihilator, High Inquisitor, Friend of the Apes and Warlord of Svargrond. Can anyone check how many points give this achievements?? Sez The Withe 18:20, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Warlord of Svargrond is correct. W miki 18:42, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

I found one mistake: Mathemagician + Huntsman = 3 achievement points! So, one must give 2 points instead of 1 Sez The Withe 01:14, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Ones which may be wrong for me (according to what's confirmed) Amateur Actor, Chorister, Efreet Ally, Just in Time, Matchmaker, Mathemagician, High Inquisitor, Master of the Nexus, Master Thief, Ruthless. I have 3 points more on Tibia.com than it says on TibiaWiki. Beejay 11:14, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

I also got 3 points in tibia.com than added in tibia.wikia as Sez says I think that Mathemagician may give 2 points (I don't have Huntsman on my main), there are still 2 achievement that gives 1 point more thant it is said in tibia.wikia. Juan Ariel 12:22, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

As I said, matchmaker gives 1 point instead of 2. Can someone change this? I'm not good at it... Fraen 09:12, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, i will edit. Mathemagician+Huntsman=3 points, mi druid have 75 wiki points and 75 real points with the actual innacurate points, if mathemagician gives 2 instead of 1, he have more points in wiki (dont make any sense), but if matchmaker really gives just 1 point, my druid its again fine.

Respect to the higher achievements, i just confirmed chorister and beach tamer points, and djinn cant give more points than 3 because its grade 1, and Warlord of Svargrond its confirmed by other ppl, so, the ones who can be wrong are: SeaScout, Champion of Chazorai, Golem in the Gears, Ruthless, Annihilator, High Inquisitor, Friend of the Apes.

EDIT: I made a page with the achievements of some of my chars User:Sez The Withe/Achievements, notice how only with my knight the points are innacurate. Sez The Withe 14:57, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

About User:Sez The Withe's post above and the ones at "Inquisitor/Master of the Nexus". Then it makes sense that High Inquisitor gives 5 points instead of 4. Also I always double check the points when I confirm them so I am sure that Friend of the Apes is 4 points (I also confirmed it on User:Beejay/Achievements). I will check the Golem in the Gears and the Sea Scout achievements when I have a bit more funding to do so. Beejay 23:57, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think hat Golem in the Gears gives 5 pts cause my pally misses 1 point, my main 2 and both have that quest, I guess ruthless gives 5 pts but not sure about that one. Juan Ariel 13:40, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

A guild mate completed Champion of Chazorai achievement and got 4 pts, so that achievement wasn't wrong. Juan Ariel 05:46, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Fountain of Life + Ruthless gives 6 points, so one of them is incorrect. Crystalix 09:39, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Fountain of Life is confirmed to give 1 point. That would mean Ruthless gives 5 points.

Nevaran 13:46, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

A player in my wold completed the mathemagician and only gained 1 point :/ so there is another achievement that is not correct Juan Ariel 15:58, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

I have confirmed Sea Scout (2pts) and Mathemagician (1pts). Also my guildmate made Anihilator and it seems to be correct. (5pts) W miki 20:31, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

well cip said that run coat use to give 3 ( we though it was 2 ), so that was a missing point, poi gives 5 high inquisitor too, I think that gears golems gives 5, mathemagician 1 and matchmaker 1, after those changes my mage and my pally their points in tibia.com and tibia are ok. Juan Ariel 12:56, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

I've had a look at my 39 achievements at the time of the update and the confirmed points on Beejay's page, and I'm up to 99 points (tibia.com said 100 at the time of the update) and these are the only unconfirmed ones I had back then:

Allow Cookies? 1 point

Amateur Actor 2 points

Just in Time 1 point

Perfect Fool 3 points

Lord of the Elements 5 points

Master of the Nexus 6 points

One of those need to one more point. My guess is that it's not Perfect Fool or Master of the Nexus since that would bring them up into another grade.

Nevaran 14:44, September 15, 2010 (UTC)

One guy on other site wrote that on wikia Allow Cookies is for 1 point, but he got 2 for that. Crystalix 19:35, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

His True Face
I guess the spoiler info is not correct. My character didn't fight Armenius, but somehow the achievement is completed on my account. She wasn't teleported to sewers either during that mission. Suinn 10:13, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

It was confirmed by Mirade (http://forum.tibia.com/forum/?action=thread&postid=27888482#post27888482), that you have to fight with Armenius (Creature). And the name of the achievement is the same than the name of the mission of bloodbrothers when you can fight him. Maybe you achieved due to a bug or something like that. Sez The Withe 12:29, July 8, 2010 (UTC) PD. Please do not delete or modify that spoiler. People will start to complain that they have completed the mission 3 of blood brothers and didnt achieve the achievement Sez The Withe 12:31, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe he shouldn't be able to shot by "teleport effect"(stand front of he but use Magic Wall when you write "alori mort") Leree 12:24, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

about the his true face achievement......... I begun blood brothers quest... On the mission you have to use alori mort..I used it in all vampires...not just directly on armenius I didn't get the achievement directly but I said alori mort a lot of times( you have to begin the conversation again each time), I said 'his true face', 'your true face', 'job', 'vampire', 'face'... a bunch of things and then I gave up, and went to Julius on the way to Julius I got the achievement, it's also 3 points...and I DIDN'T KILL ARMENIUS!!!! Revaux 15:19, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

"Revaux (talk | contributions)(I got it and it was 3 points...if you wanna check see my page at tibia.com (Revaux))"

Can you tell us how you did it? "on the way to the julius" what?

Leree 21:57, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

I tried to talk with julius and armenius after patch, julius don't gave to me answer, armenius says: 08:23 Leree [214]: alori mort

08:23 Armenius: Go away, little fly. 08:23 Leree [214]: vampire

08:23 Armenius: Why would you ask that? I give you a hint - don't meddle in affairs you haven't the slightest idea about.

08:26 Leree [214]: blood 08:26 Armenius: If you want blood, go kill a pig. 08:26 Leree [214]: mission 08:26 Armenius: Why would I have a mission for you? Have a drink and pay for it, that's your first mission in my bar. 08:26 Leree [214]: drink 08:26 Armenius: I got beer, wine and some imported rum. I tried to write it when i was drunk but his respond is same. Leree 06:35, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

There's one vampire NPC in Venore. You can discover that he's vampire by wearing garlic necklace, anyone tried to do same with armenius? Onepostonly 08:14, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

I will try if you write here what you wrote to npc in Venore. Leree 12:21, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Has anyone tried anything to complete this achievement? //Unsigned comment by User:Chimimi, Remember: sign your comments by four tidles( ~ )

Castlemania
I figured out the achievement would be about getting the diary pages, but I wasn't able to find the 7th, does anyone know where it could be? Perhaps it is on the area where the blood skull is? Does anyone know if getting a diary part on a secondchar and giving it to Julius will work?Uha 01:45, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Note how the text also says how you have collected tokens... and explored... there is no diary in the blood skull area as far as I know. Karlkoninan 02:31, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I went to the vengoth castle and i have one problem. The 1st diary page (1st tower to the right, 4th floor with 2 gs and many poison and spiders), i cant find it. Its impossible to use the northwest skeletons, and when i look the skeleton i got: "You see cobwebs". I wanna know if im missing something or its a bug and i should report it? Sez The Withe 05:17, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

If I remember correctly you have to move a skeleton and use the one that's underneath.

Nevaran 09:56, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I think Karlkoninan is right. You have to do more than just hand in the 6 pages. Probably get the blood goblet and kill at least 1 vampire lord to get a token.

Nevaran 10:11, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well I picked blood goblet and the six piece of paper and still didn't got the achievement :p and I would either wait than give 1 token to the npc lol in vain, so if someone finds more details about it I would be happy Juan Ariel 12:25, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, there is a missing requeriment. I also collected the six missing pages, the blood goblet, i have finished the quest, and i didnt got the achievement. Sez The Withe 12:44, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I have completed the quest, I have turned in more than 6 missing diaries probably (can just find 6 diaries in the castle + one other bookcase which is empty, but if I remember correctly, I turned in someone else's diaries looong time ago too), I have taken the blood goblet, I have killed one vampire lord token and turned in one token, still I can't get the achievement.... Karlkoninan 16:30, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I got the 6 pages, blood goblet and gave in 10 tokens... Still nothing Bitter Soul 16:32, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I've taken all pages + goblet + got full vampire hunter and took blood skull, No achievement yet, so I don't think it has anything to do with tokens. Zdzisiek 16:38, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

The tokens could still be a part of it. There's nothing that says there can't be 3 or more things needed for it. It gives a lot of points so it's not likely to be a really easy achievement. They should all be connected to the castle in some way though.

Nevaran 17:07, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Well yeah, you got a point, I didn't think about it that way. Anyway maybe there is some other castle-like place with vampires? Zdzisiek 17:21, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I already had given all pieces of the diary to Julius, but still I did not have the achievement. The fact some people have it made me think. If I remember right, to kill the last boss, Arthei, one person on the team had to use the Ghost's Tear, perhaps using this item is a condition to get it. To prove this point I need someone to confirm that he has used the Tear and doesn't not have the achievement, or that he has the achievement and hasn't used the tear. I'll try to find a team to kill the boss again and see what happens. MaveAntica 18:12, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I used the tear, still nothing Bitter Soul 18:31, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

I used the tear too, and got nothing. Sez The Withe 19:26, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe there is something with marking all 8 unusual spots on vengoth map? W miki 23:25, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe, but there is no way to mark the spots we didnt mark Sez The Withe 01:11, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Marked all spots, nothing. Bitter Soul 01:17, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Castlemania (Secret) You have an eye for suspicious places and love to read other people's diaries, especially those with vampire stories in it. You're also a dedicated token collector and explorer. Respect! Maybe we have to collect few Vampire Lord Tokens and get any rank(fluke or higher)? Leree 09:56, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

i'v got Razing! and gave all 6 papers to him, still nothing. Crystalix

Some1 has check that in fact, there are ONLY 6 pages? maybe the other guys are right and there is in fact, 7 missing pages Sez The Withe 15:16, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Something just struck me (it might be the heat). The description says "love to read other people's diaries, especially those with vampire stories in it". What if you have to actually read (i.e. open) each diary page before handing it in?

Nevaran 17:54, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so. It should be obtainable for all players. Leree 18:00, July 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Page 1: First tower to the right. In a bookcase on the surface floor.
 * Page 2: First tower to the right. In a pile of bones under a pile of bones (upper floor)
 * Page 3: First tower to the left . In a bookcase (surface or 1+ not sure=
 * Page 4: Second tower to the right. In a bookcase (surface floor)
 * Page 5: Second tower to the left. In a bookcase (surface floor)
 * Page 6: North tower. In a bookcase (surface floor)
 * Page 7: North tower near "Kala" (ghost NPC)(in a coffin)

still no Castlemania :((( Bitter Soul 00:11, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

"Page 1: First tower to the right. In a bookcase on the surface floor." This isn't a page, thats the whole diary, you need to take it at mission 6 of blood brothers quests. Zdzisiek 00:21, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Zdzisiek its right, actually you found ONLY 6 pages: Sez The Withe 00:42, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Page 1: First tower to the right. In a pile of bones under a pile of bones (upper floor)
 * Page 2: First tower to the left . In a bookcase (surface or 1+ not sure=
 * Page 3: Second tower to the right. In a bookcase (surface floor)
 * Page 4: Second tower to the left. In a bookcase (surface floor)
 * Page 5: North tower. In a bookcase (surface floor)
 * Page 6: North tower near "Kala" (ghost NPC)(in a coffin)

I found those 6 pages and the diary. I'm finishing the Vampire Lord Token quest to reach the highest rank and to try to talk to NPC Julius. I'm thnking about that blood skull, what is that for? ps. I'm new here and I'm learning how to use this page, sorry if I'm editing your post Sez.PainUs 15:38, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

@PainUs: Editing the posts is the best way to add coments here =P. And some people post here that they have the highest rank in the Vampire Hunter Quest and still dont have Castlemania achievement.

About this achievement... i have tried to get and still nothing. I think we're omitting something, maybe there is a 7th page.., or maybe we need to say something to the Vengoth NPC's... im running out of ideas Sez The Withe 18:56, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

@Sez The Withe

As the description of the achievement says : You need to be a token’s collector (100 tokens), you need to be a diary’s reader (6 pages) and an explorer (?). Well, I finished the 100 tokens, gave the 6 pages and used crowbar/firebug/pick/shovel in almost every sqm of vengoth’s castle. I’m thinking about the ghosts that were there, for example if you walk in front of the throne (first floor, last door) you will see a ghost or something. I’m kind lost :s

I also explored all the ‘secret’ room where you get the blood skull, and I checked the room where those two sleeping girls are and nothing.. =/

Ps. How can I put that line between our posts, Sez?

unsigned comment by PainUsPainUs 20:02, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Have you completed explorer society quest?

btw.

You can create lines by four "-" as here:

And remember to sign your posts by 4 tidles ~

Leree 19:36, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

I don't thing that 100 tokens are require because you already get n achievement for that, it will be stupid if you would gain 2 achievement by 1 quest, beside in that case it would give more points, so either we are missing something, btw those anyone of us has the achievement? I guess he/she could help us a bit, cause its already like 3 weeks that we know this achievement but we are not sure for the spoiler lol Juan Ariel 20:35, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

@Leree

Yes I have the explorer society completed, and I talked with NPC Lugri about the castle and etc... PainUs 20:02, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Hm, maybe there is a problem with 4th mission in Blood Brothers Quest. Maybe you have to mark all 8 spots to have achievement. If you marked only 5, 6 or 7, you don't have it. Anyone who have this achiev can confirm it? How many spots did you marked? Crystalix 22:32, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Please read all the messages, and you will see that the thing about the 8 spots was already discussed, and is not that. Sez The Withe 23:30, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it is not only for vengoth castle? W miki 14:19, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

I checked highscore lists and all the people that had Castlemania also had Razing, I suppose a part of this achievement is getting 100 tokens, not only a few for first ranks. Also, there are some new skull pillars all over tibia, maybe the "explorer" part is related to them.Anatherion 16:05, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

@Anatherion

What an amazing idea we have here! Fits perfectly with the description “explorer”! I suggest us to create one character on Luminera for example and then we can discuss about our ideas! Maybe we have to use the blood skull on those statues or something! I’m on work atm so I’m not able to try, but as soon as I log on I’ll try! :D PainUs 16:43, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

@Juan Ariel: Finish The Inquisition Quest gives you 2 achievements (Shadownexus and The Inqusiitor), so, its possible that get 100 Vampire Lord Token gives you 2 achievements too.

Sez The Withe 16:48, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Basicly yes, and it is not the only example, but since castlemania have only 5 pts it should be easier than razing - maybe it needs only 20 or 50 tokens turned in. W miki 17:46, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

So, we can exclude mission with spots, another one bug can be in first mission, are you guys was baking bread or have done vampire hunt from inq quest before, if so, did you use garlic necklaces there?

Crystalix 09:44, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone with full vampire hunter quest (100 tokens) tried to kill all the bosses of vengoth’s castle? (remember that you must hit 51% of the bosses to ‘count’ the frag) I’ll try to do this later.

I talked with Sez The With and he said to me that some people have this achievement when they logged Tibia for the first time after the update, so I asked myself “if they have soloed the bosses? Or in any way they have hitted more than 51% of the Boss’ hitpoints?PainUs 14:11, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Updating... I killed the 4 bosses, explored the castle again and nothing =/ I also killed the summon/boss shadow of boreth that apear with the last boss, Arthei. PainUs 15:14, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

=O, i forgot the shadows, maybe we need to kill it or face it Sez The Withe 15:44, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

If you want to kill the shadows you should kill Arthei several times because he will summon the shadows.PainUs 16:00, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

@Ardami

Can you prove information about 7th page? Crystalix 12:39, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

I used the tear more than 10 times yesterday, killed several times the Arthei, killed one shadow of Boreth, I stayed on the ‘battle’ with arthei for more than 4 minutes waiting it to summon the shadows since the shadow of Boreth appeared when Arthei asked Boreth’s help. - I’d like to ask you guys if there is a key to open the door where the Dark Torturer and the Fury were locked or you can open the door anytime you want? - Someone changed the description of the “spoil” of castlemania and wrote that there is one page (the seventh) hidden on the secret room, were you gain access when you reach the rank of “Razing!” (after giving the 100 tokens) I used almost everything there and didn’t find anything, just some coffins with red/blue and yellow roses painted on it.. There are two rooms that I tried to get in: first: there are two female sleeping there and the door is locked with some woods; second: there is one jail were there is one dead female and sleeping female and a rat. Anyone tried to get there? PainUs 13:03, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Just an idea, isnt it so that you have to finish the last mission before you can enter on the roof top in the middle? maybe you need to take the blood goblet there and/or use the sundial (as in fountain of life, you need to use a fountain) as a part of getting this achievement.

TIBIA-Azura 13:31, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Im one of ppl which got raizing achievment. i tried today find something in secret floor. but couldn't get anything. using blood skull doesn't help. i was talking with 1 guy which made castlemania. he told me only 1 advice. in tibia are something like 10 castles Acroma Angel 14:01, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

I made a research about diaries, and I found abour 13 diaries around the Tibia, tonight I’ll search them (probably I already got them but I’ll try again. Why if we trade the blood skull with someone to get the last diary (if it exist)? I would say that 90% of those that have the castlemania don’t even know how they get it.

@TIBIA-Azura About the Golden goblet, where should I use it? btw I used the sundial. @Acroma Angel There are several castles, we all know about it, but this guy is your friend? Otherwise he is just taking you away from the achievement. PainUs 14:42, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

I also have Razing accomplished and 6 diarypages given to Julius. Cant find any solution in the secret room. Searched other castles for hidden diary pages without any success.--Skogis 17:54, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

I just asked someone random with Castlemania Achievment. he seems to be serious. Acroma Angel 16:42, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

I removed the spoiler, people are just adding assumptions. The right place for make assumptions is this talk page and not the article. We will put the spoiler until he really have it &raquo; Sez ~ Talk &laquo; 18:06, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

@Juan Ariel

it isn't stupid

in dreamer's challenge you can get lucid dreamer, bone brother/nightmare knight and lord protector/dread lord

in shattered isles you can get beach tamer and animal activist

by doing wrath of the emperor you can get wayfarer, viva la resistance

by doing isle of evil you can get worm whacker and king tibianus fan

@TIBIA-Azura, PainUs and Acroma Angel

Are you sure that you did all from list?:


 * Complete blood brothers
 * Pick up blood goblet
 * Pick up blood skull
 * Make "razing" collector rank
 * Find all diary pages and give it to Julius

Leree 11:43, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

I'm another one who did all that things from your list and don't have achievement. Crystalix 12:57, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Just like Crystalix I have completed all the list. Also I tried to search for the missing page of the diary on the factory quarter around the old house of those vampires. I also tried to 'summon' those ghostly apparisons by staying afk for few minutes there and nothing =/I tried to use the blood skull on everything. I tried to kill a certain number of bosses and I killed like 100 of each (Lersatio and Boreth) I killed 35 (Arthei) and 8 times the (Marziel). I'm thinking on changing my character sex to female to hunt more Marziel's.

I was reading about the game Castlevania and I tried to change my aparence using the Utevo res ina... bat, wolf and nothing =/ (I'm trying everything, literaly. PainUs 15:58, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

I think that you must have completed The White Raven Monastery Quest. Building on Isle of Kings looks like castle. You must explore dungeons to find family brooch and monks diary. What do you think? Dyror 11:58, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

I have completed that quest already. No achiev. Crystalix 18:29, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Spoiler is wrong. I have razing, blood skull and gave Julius 6 pages. Its something more than 6 pages. Maybe someone wanna edit that spoiler? or just take it off because its wrong.

Done, its the 2nd time i delete the fake spoiler &raquo; Sez ~ Talk &laquo; 13:34, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

@alex~ can you confirm that what you wrote? Leree 19:37, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Ship's Kobold
There is new achievement. Just look at Azura top 10 highscore achievement and you will see it at some ppl. Does any1 have any idea how to get it?

-unsigned comment by User:Lionekon

My guess is that it's like the high-flyer. Travel 1000 times with boats. If Edron-Cormaya counts that would be your cheapest route. If not, Edron-Venore is the cheapest.

Nevaran 09:32, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

My guess is that is more than 1000 times (like 2000 or so). It would make sense if we make a match between the usual use of the transport and the times needed for the achievement. The Steamboat is the one you use less, therefore it is 100 travels, then you use the carpet more often, therefore 1000 times, and in the end the one u use most is the boat, therefore it must be more than 1000 travels. MaveAntica 12:22, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

The boat is the most used travel system, and its very cheap (30 gps from Venore to Edron), so, its obviusly you must travel more than 1000 times, i will test it later Sez The Withe 13:27, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

There are two options for doing this achiev, travel between Venore and Edron (30k gp in total, 1000 travels) or between Edron and Cormaya (20k gp in total, but 2000 travels). Second one is cheaper, but traveling from Cormaya to Edron don't count. Crystalix 17:55, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

If travel between Edron boat and Cormaya counts, i wonder if travel to the Isle of the Kings from Carlin counts too (only 10gps the passage).

Sez The Withe 18:46, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

I just did around 2100 trips between edron and cormaya but didn´t get the achievement. Either you need more or the info is incorrect. Not going to try 3000 trips since I´m low on cash :p Ferencerdok

try route Venore - Edron i've wasted 11/30k(it seems that all ship travels are in count). I've earned this achievement by this way

Leree 19:23, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I did a few passages between Venore and Edron and unlocked it. Maybe it's 2500 passages between Edron - Cormaya? Ferencerdok 20:49, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

I just spent 10k on edron-cormaya and nothing happened since was 1000 times, could be more i'll wait to get more info.[UPDATED] 20.7k and unlocked the achievement EDRON-CORMAYA Aymh 21:51, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

info is /\ there :D Crystalix 22:34, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

I done that achievement travelling Edron/Venore several times (wasted something like 30k) PainUs 22:46, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

I did wasting less than 20k on travels between Cormaya and Edron MaveAntica 23:27, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

I did it too traveling between Edron and Cormaya, so its possible and the cheaper way to get it. Sez The Withe 00:29, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

It seems to all travels on surface by royal tibia passages are in count

Leree 08:06, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but the spoiler its incorrecte, the number of travels its above 1000, maybe 1200 or 1250

Anyone can confirm the number of travels needed?Sez The Withe 13:46, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Note: Cormaya-Edron as well as Cormaya-Eremo Island does NOT count!! (for Ship's Kobolt) Genco 11:27, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

I got this achievement by traveling between Edron and Cormaya, so this route DOES count. I believe I spent less than 10k on that since i traveled some before doing this. Yxil 20:43, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

Genco means that traverl from Cormaya to Edron doesnt count. Only counts from Edron to Cormaya. &raquo; Sez ~ Talk &laquo; 20:54, July 26, 2010 (UTC)

I also made this achievement by travelling Edron-Cormaya forth and back. Took about 1600 travels so it would make sence if this route counts in only one direction. That would make 800 travels, added with other travels i made earlier could add up to 1000.--Skogis 16:04, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Took me 22,6k gold from Edron<->Cormaya, so either it's somewhat random, or pressing down the hotkey is too fast for the server for it, awesome fun though. xD Mirkaan 19:50, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I just travelled 1000 times and I didn't get this achievement.

I used 30k (3 crystal coins) travelling between Venore and Edron (30 gp per travel).

According to the article this achievement yelds the same amount of points yelded by getting Potion Addict, 4 points. It's necessary to use 100k potions to get Potion Addict, wouldn't it make sense if Ship's Kobold was obtainable by travelling 100k times?

Can somebody confirm the exact number of travels needed to get this achievement?

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 23:00, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Try using a few hundred more boats. I'm pretty sure I spent around the cost for ~1500 trips before I got the achievement. Besides, using 500+ lottery tickets only gives you 2 points. That's 50k+ vials that could've been sold for 250k+ gold. Using a mirror a few hundred times while being drunk gives you more points, and you can get drunk for free so that's just the cost of a mirror. So CIP hasn't exactly put too much thought behind the difficulty and the amount of points.

Nevaran 23:07, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Bit off topic but I know that Chayenne only had two days to put together all of the achievements together for the summer update. So it might be worth mentioning somewhere to adjust the points to the difficulty of obtaining them. It may be that people are more likely to use a ship or lottery tickets than using a mirror 100 times drunk or something which might be why the points are higher for it or, I'm not CipSoft though, so I don't know! Beejay 23:21, September 12, 2010 (UTC)

Test Servers were reseted today, so I think I travelled 1000 times in vain yesterday.

Today I travelled 2000 times from Edron to Cormaya and vice versa and I didn't get the achievement. So, if travelling from Cormaya to Edron doesn't count, there is nothing wrong, I have proved twice that it's needed to trael more than 1000 times or that it's random.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 21:45, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's required to travel from bigger ship(or to bigger ship) this means that maybe passage to cormaya is in count but passage to edron isn't(?). I'm not sure but it may explain why we need 2000 travels in this route. Leree 22:41, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

We need more than 2000 travels in this route. This is what I said.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 00:15, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

People seem to be getting this achievement by traveling different numbers of times, but I don't think for a second that it could be completely random, perhaps there is some formula involving level to determine the amount of travels? Possibly level * 100? Fire Assassin 01:28, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, just got the achievement. I had to travel more 450 times, so total was 2450 times. I was travelling from Edron to Cormaya when I got the achievement.

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 00:55, September 16, 2010 (UTC)

I got it in Test Server after using 2479 times the route Edron-Cormaya and 1 time the route Venore-Edron. I used a character which never used any boat after the implementation of the achievements. (waste 49.6k, 20gp each travel).

After that I spent 60k in another character using the route Port Hope-Darashia (180gp each travel, 330 travels in total) just to make sure it has nothing to do with the money you spend, just the number of times you travel. I didn't get any achievement doing it this way.

I am not sure if Cipsoft changed the number of travels you need to do to get this achievement in Test Server, but it seems to be around 2450-2480 now (see the Hunter of Dragoes' experiment above).

Wily Wonkas 18:14, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I just made another experiment right now. I used a character which never used the boat after the implementation of the achievements. I used the route Venore-Edron and got the achievement after travelling 1235 times. So the theory about Cormaya->Edron doesn't count to get the achievement is probably true.

And the best route to get the achievement would be Edron-Venore (49.4k if you didn't complete the The Postman Missions Quest and 37k if you completed it).

Wily Wonkas 18:43, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Our experiment results were quite close. I got 1225 (2450/2) times and you got 1240 (2479/2) and 1235 times. I didn't tell it before but I had travelled a (very) few times after the achievements were implemented, so your results are more correct. So, I'm changing the spoiler of Ship's Kobold to "around 1250 times".

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 18:20, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Poet Laureate
Well, what you need is a book that you get on that piramide next to dp to the right, go to library and get a gook there on the door at right side, after taht you pass the endless door and get it, if you have passed the door already you will get the achivement after getting the book!

hmm... one unknown achievement. Any ideas how to earn it? Leree 15:04, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe... mission with Love poem or one mission of Kissing a Pig Quest ? It needs to be tried by someone who never did it, becouse it can be bugged. I havn't other ideas. Onepostonly 15:24, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

No. I tried it. After mission you're unable to write another poems. Leree 15:27, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

I have both quests finished, i tried make more poems, and i went with elvith and talked with him for hours and got nothing. Sez The Withe 15:35, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you also need the Elven Poetry Book from a mission of explorer's society quest? -V- 19:39, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

I have completed the explorer quest. This achievement is not related to any know quest, cuz i have all completed Sez The Withe 20:58, July 14, 2010 (UTC)

By player from Calmera we have to complete Kissing a Pig Quest(as poems/rhymes? "blue", "you" in poem), Meriana Quest(as verses?), No idea for songs, cryptic door, raconteur of ancient lore (few players obtained achievement by solving doors way Diptrah's tomb but few players still don't got achievement)

Any ideas now? Leree 01:03, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

I did that tomb recently so either I need something else (I also did the other quest too), or that wasn't the answer :p Juan Ariel 02:21, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

I got it just now from entering the first door of the dipthrah puzzle so that is definitley part of it User:jigarbov

There must be reason why some players can't make it.

Did you know Gingerbread Recipe by your character? Leree 09:52, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

I did this achievement now, and my guild mate did not get it. So we checked here on wiki what book gives hints about the correct way. It's the one that's a "quest bookshelf". After he took that book he got the achievement. So it's not just walking through the doors, you also have to find out which doors to walk through by taking that book. It's in bookcase 1 on the first floor of the Ankrahmun Libraries. It's titled "Untitled Poem".

Nevaran 13:12, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Got the book but didn't recieve the achievement :/, and I don't have Gingerbread recipe Juan Ariel 13:31, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Visit "cryptic door, raconteur of ancient lore" again and you will got achievement.

Leree 14:12, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

I did kissing a pig quest, treasure hunt quest, used ginger recipe, read the book, and walked thro the doors at diphs~ still nothing Bitter Soul 19:17, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hm... You get a love poem for the djinn in Meriana quest. You get an elvish poetry book (briefly) in explorer society quest. Have you done those too?

Nevaran 19:52, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

I got it and all I did was open & step into the 'endless' door in Dipthrah's tomb.... Fire Assassin 21:54, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

If you did everything as you says try again diptrah's doors

Leree 00:51, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

I did Meriana Quest, Explorer Society Quest, Kissing a Pig Quest, used ginger recipe, read the book, and walked thru the doors at Dipthrah's tomb. The spoiler is incomplete. Kurty Hayes 19:31, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

I went back and got the achievement and a friend didn't made kissing a pig, so kissing the pig it is included, the book too (jic you get the achievement with passing the first door). Juan Ariel 18:16, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

Then, all you need is finish Kissing a Pig Quest, grab the book from Ankrahmun Libraries, and then walk over the "Endless" door of the Dipthrah's Tomb.

Sez The Withe 13:32, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

I still can't get this achievement, even though I've done all the 3 things mentioned in the spoiler, so I'd say this achievement spoiler is still inaccurate Chrx 10:33, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Well, if you have the achievement of passionate kisser (who confirmes u done correctly the quest), and u have finished shattered isles quest, and nobody else have this problem, i think that maybe u got the wrong book or ure steping in the wrong door

EDIT: Well, there is another player with the same problem, i will bring back this topic from the archive until the spoiler its 100% confirmed Sez The Withe 14:57, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, something is missing. And of course I did everything right. I didn't get the wrong book and I didn't step in the wrong door. I also completed all the quests mentioned here, except the Treasure Hunt Quest.

Kurty Hayes 22:18, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

I don't have treasure hunt and got achievement, mmm did u pick first book right? Juan Ariel 01:05, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Kurty Hayes 01:24, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

List of possible things that could lead to secret achievements?
I guess it'd be a good idea to list everything we've tried, so people have an idea of what could or not be an achievement. This way we would be looking for different things without wasting money/time on things that have already been tested. Just an idea, dunno if it should be posted here.Anatherion 19:37, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe if we list things we think could be an achievement others can just tell us if they have already tried it.

For example there are a few things that I think could be achievements (I've posted these in a thread on tibiaml too):
 * Successfully use obsidian knife/blessed stake x amount of times (1 or 2 seperate achievements)
 * Travel using orichalcum pearls x amount of times //I've wasted 10k pearls// Leree 01:45, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Saying "bye" to npc's x amount of times instead of just walking away
 * Using stuffed animals that makes noise (e.g. panda teddy and stuffed dragon) x amount of times

Nevaran 19:47, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Hi there!

About the orichalcum pearls: I travelled like 1008 times and did nothing =/

I made 1000 breads and nothings.

At the momment I'm trying to kill 1000 bosses of any kind (mainly the vampire bosses, Lersatio and Boreth).

PainUs 20:31, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

Let's see. There are 10 undiscovered secret achievements. Some thoughts:
 * Polishing shiny stones x times
 * Using x number of torches
 * Using a torch x times
 * Using the Portal of Citizenship in every city - has been done, many times
 * Using the Portal of Citizenship x times
 * Eating a certain type of food x times
 * Using a juice squeezer x times - I did 1005 fruit juice and no achievement jigarbov
 * Making rum x times
 * Baking a cake x times //If yes it's more than 1005 //Leree 01:45, August 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Baking cookies x times
 * Baking a chocolate cake x times
 * Baking gingerbreadmen x times
 * Using a watch x times //I've tried this at least 500 times

Kharzad Ironfist 21:17, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Carving x pumpkins - carved 100 pumpkins even added candles to them nothing happenedDreadElder 02:39, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
 * Using a water pipe x times //Check lower post
 * Using a birdcage with a living bird x times
 * Killing a bird in a birdcage x times


 * I've baked 1005 cakes without effect
 * I've tried water pipe more than 10000 times, nothing happens

Leree 22:26, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

About the eat, hmmm i already ate 2k hams, 1.5k bananas (my druid only eat hams and bananas) and my knight around 800 dhams. I really doubt that eat food gives some achievement.

Also i used a dice 10k times without get any achievement.

I used the ore wagons on kazordoon around 2.5k times without any lucky too =(

About the ideas, i have some of them too: &raquo; Sez ~ Talk &laquo; 22:32, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Swimming X amount of time or X quantity of steps on the water
 * Open X quantity of shovel holes or pick holes
 * Use X quantity of rings (maybe the achievement its called Lord of the Rings LOL)
 * Enchant X quantity of weapons

Put strikes through ones we have tested and know are not achievements. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 23:37, July 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Lose money from Aruda x times
 * Get something out of Crate (Usable) x times
 * Use x Lightbringer's Basins during Lightbearer (maybe has been done)

My ideas are the following:

- Exchanging X life crystals to life rings

- Exchanging X items like metals, pieces of cloth, soul orbs, etc.

- Giving X golden mugs to Pythius.

- Fishing X mechanical fish (dunno if this can be done after quest, havent tried)

- Repairing soft boots X times // If yes then more than 500 times //Leree 01:45, August 8, 2010 (UTC) - Opening a sea shell X times

- Getting all possible christmas gifts

I have already:

- harvested 578 sugar canes (I still have to make rum with them)

- rolled a dice like 5k times

- used a dworc doll on 100~ different people (until bloodhit appears)

- broke furniture 1k times - went to ghostship like 80 times

- transfered 10kk cash to someone else Anatherion 23:43, July 30, 2010 (UTC)

My ideas:

kill 100 times ferumbras (boss slayer)

bake 1000 times chololate cake (cakes lover)

take 100 times black skull (archcruelty)

kill 1000 people (murderer)

throw away 10kk to the water (richman)

buy 100 times pacc (profitable player)

say 100 times insults in trade channel (insult lover)

buy blessing 100 times (bad conection user) Unsigned comment by: User:Tibia_Master Remember to sign your comments!

@Tibia_Master: This page is not for jokes. &raquo; Sez ~ Talk &laquo; 01:09, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

- watered flower pot xxx times? (botanist/gardener) --Unknown Rider 20:54, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Dig up X amount of scarabs?

Using a stuffed dragon, baby seal doll  Sadonic ( <font size = "1" color = "blue">Page/Talk ), Seeker of Myth ( <font size = "1" color = "blue">Page/Talk  ),  14:13, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

U cant use baby seal doll, or at least it doesnt make any sound. Aymh 04:47, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

I test with 8 dragon stuff with hotkey like 10 or 15 min and didn't got any achievement. I think that there may be 1 achievement in rook (kind of unfair) but I saw Vanessa of Furora having 1 achievement point in rook and check the list of achievement of 1 point and there was no way to gain so there is 1 secret achievement in rook. Juan Ariel 00:37, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

This is Rockstar achievement, but why is it giving only 1 point? W miki 01:18, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

It isn't wrong. She might have another achievement. For example i can display "Dread lord", "Master of the nexus", "wayfarer" etc. achievements in 1-lvled characters if they're on same Account

Leree 01:22, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

@User:DM I don't think so that lightbearer torches can give achievement/ maybe we have to win with dark essences we will see. Leree 01:45, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

So far the are only 2 known achievemnts on Rook - here fishy fishy and potion addict. Rockstar is not obtainable there.

Fraen 09:19, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe by santiago's piano but it's not confirmed

Leree 12:45, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Oh maybe Freaen is right and is here fishy fishy, I could had miss it while reading it. Juan Ariel 14:12, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Santiago's piano doesn't lead to an achievement. Probably because of the fact that the old Rookstayers would not be able to do this.

Fraen 14:18, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe collecting xx Giant Shimmering Pearls (green or blue) from sea shells? Could be a nice achievement since you can only open one sea shell per day. Skogis 13:41, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

We should try. If mirror, voodoo skull have daily limit and give achievement maybe sea shell give it too. My idea: Use claw of 'The noxious spawn' "x" times Leree 14:40, August 10, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone try the dog sleds? Every other transportation method gives an achievement. (Sorceror King)

remember. sign your comments by ~ I've tried more than 1000 times, someone else tried too(i can't remember name) so there is no achievement for that. Leree 09:27, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

14:34 Opi Fex [221]: You love getting your hands wet and dirty - and covered with clay. Your perfect sculpture of Brog, the raging Titan is your true masterpiece.

14:34 Opi Fex [221]: You're an aspiring marble sculptor with promising skills - proven by the perfect little Tibiasula statue you shaped. One day you'll be really famous!

theese are true descriptions of Clay Fighter and Marblelous, so we think theese known descriptions are now for 5 or 10 statues sculpted, Opi already have 2 Brog's sculpted, he'll check it in few weeks

Andarist 12:58, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

I can confirm that it's more than 5 or 10 statues. I've sclupted 25 statues without best one, my friend sclupted 19 and got it. Leree 15:00, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

"@Sculpting Achievements: I lowered the requirement to one perfect statue each and set the points to 3. In addition to that, I added a higher graded achievement each. Marble and clay will be made available in other monsters as well. Edit: Marble is now available from stone golems and gargoyles as rare drop, clay from all earth elementals as rare drop."

Therefore you only need to make one fully made statue to get those achievements. Beejay 15:57, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Beejay, can you give the link where this was posted? Do you know if this is already implemented in the game? ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 19:48, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

I can do but it will be tomorrow, it was on the private boards for test server and that (I believe) was quoted from Chaynenne. If I am not too mistaken it was on the thread for achievement points. Beejay 00:54, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

I ment that it's higly possible that Cipsoft has addes higher graded achievement to sculpting ones, 1st achievement for 1 perfect statue (ie Clay Fighter) and 2nd one for 5-10 perfect statues (some Master Sculptor or whatever) Andarist 10:55, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

- I used the teleport (tunnel) inside the Pacman Room 1000 times.

- I step in every SQM inside the Pacman Room and collected all the blueberries, oranges and the apple.

I didn't get an achievement. I was hoping I would earn the "Wakka wakka achievement" :/

Wily Wonkas 01:54, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Since CIP added 11 new secret achievements in the patch I guess we need to re-test everything that's already been tested before the patch...

Nevaran 13:35, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

New Secret Achievements
After the patch it now says "You have discovered X of 56 secret achievements!" at the bottom of the character page.

Nevaran 18:28, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

I guess all those 11 new secret achievements were for the rise of devo~ quest.

1 for entering a portal. 1 for each of the 5 "minibosses". 1 for entering devo~'s lair. 1 for getting the rewards. 1 for killing devo~. 1 for killing the cocoon? 1 for killing the blooms?

If I counted correctly that makes it 11, and I'm not completely sure the last 2 are real achievements.

Nevaran 11:50, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

there are 88 new secret achievement in total, beside that outfit and all of that are non secret (I won 10 achievement and 37 pts). Juan Ariel 23:53, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

I have added few new achievements from test server. I will try any method to earn some from list to make spoiler. Leree 11:03, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Wild Warrior is most probably for both addons of warrior outfit.

Way of Shaman is most probably for both addons of Shaman outfit

Warlock You're proficient in the darker ways of magic and are usually found sitting inside a circle of candles and skulls muttering unspeakable words. Don't carry things too far or the demons might come get you. - most probably for both mage addons

Swift Death Stealth kills and backstabbing are you specialty. Your numerous victims are usually unaware of their imminent death, which you bring to them silently and swiftly. Everything is permitted. - most probably both addons of assassin outfit

Yxil 18:20, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Warlock is wizzard my friend only has 2 outfit complete (also again only 2 achievement in test) one was citizen and the other wizard, itgain a total of 10 pts, so this means that wizards gives 6 pts if citizen is correct. Juan Ariel 18:27, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

If there are 88 new achievements. I guess 11 are for devovorga~ 24 for full outfits so we have 53 new achievements to discover. Leree 21:22, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

No no, there are 88 hidden ones. Before that, there was 56 hidden ones, so we have 32 hidden to find. Beside of that, there are 34 new not hidden, like for outfits etc. Crystalix 22:50, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I think Fool at Heart is jester outfit :p, I have it in test (had 10 achievement new, 8 outfits complete 1 of Halloween and 1 of wrath of emperor) within those 8 I have jester full, and I have that achievement unlocked. Juan Ariel 17:03, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

imo sending X letters/parcels to someones DP

Vasiva 04:55, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'm gonna make some guesses on spoilers for the new autum patch's achievements:
 * Piece of Cake: Baking X number of cakes.
 * I Need a Hug: Using X stuffed animal (or animals) X number of times.
 * Slim Chance: Using Treasure map and/or Treasure Map (Pirate) X number of times.
 * Joke's on You: Using X number of Present (Explosive) or opening a Present (Postman)

I'm betting they're all low grade easy achievements, if somebody can try and confirm after the update it would be great.

-V- 12:59, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

To get Joke's on You, you have to open only 1 explosive present - got in on the testserver. I was also using 10 stuffed dragons for about 20 minutes and didn't get the achievement. Fool at Heart is not Jester Outfit, because it's 1-star, all others are 2. But no idea how to get it, i had this achievement from the beginnig of the test, so it's about a quest. SIGMA 15:02, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yalahari outfits are also 1 star, or its probably related to jester quest, the animals I can try it cause I got all dolls 20:40, September 21, 2010 (UTC)

Fool at Heart is for Jester Outfit. But it is strange now, because we have two achievements at the end of one quest. Probably both for 3 points, so for finishing Bozo's missions we have 6 points, plus cookies mission, 8 points in total for that quest. Almost like Herbicide ;) Crystalix 12:01, September 22, 2010 (UTC)

I thought since there are a lot of baking achievements in this patch maybe there's one for baking bread (tried 100 so far without getting anything) and maybe one for gingerbreadmen (tried 60 so far without getting anything). Garlic bread and cookies might also be a possibility.

Nevaran 15:47, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

My guess for Brutal Politeness and Wild Warrior is Barbarian and Warrior outfitsAnatherion 22:20, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

HERBICIDE
Herbicide achievement gives 8 points! By Sant/Calmera

Piece of Cake, Joke's On You
'''Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Piece of Cake".'''

Obtainable after baking 1 chocolate cake and 1 Decorated cake (normal cake + fruits on top)

p.s - "Piece of Cake" & "Joke's on you" gives each 1 point

Berserker and other new potions based achievments
its completed after drink 100 potions

Acroma Angel

lol, so mages are supposed to hunt mad scientists for 10 weeks to get the mastermind achievement?... this is getting silly. :( Ardami 06:16, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

Silly?! then think about paladin! Leree 09:10, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Cookie Monster, With a Cherry on Top
'With a Cherry on Top You like your cake soft, with fruity bits and a nice sugar icing. And you prefer to make them by yourself. Have you ever considered opening a bakery? You must be really good by now!

After baking 20 decorated cakes.

Gives 1 point. Grade 1. Secret Achievement.

'Cookie Monster You can easily be found by anyone if they just follow the cookie crumb trail. And for you, true love means to give away your last cookie.

After baking 20 trays of cookies.

Gives 1 point. Grade 1. Secret Achievement.

Demonic Barkeeper
Can someone confirm how many Concentrated Demonic Blood do we have to use to get achievement?

It's 250 for sure, i made it on 3 chars

Andarist 15:44, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

gz its kinda sad for mages -,-

How many points for it?

Crystalix 15:02, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I can confirm it is 250, gives 3 points Anatherion 18:38, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Alumni and Ritualist achievement
So as we know the mage addon female is different from the male addon, my question is if you get female addon which achievement will you get alumni or ritualist ? <font face="Gill Sans MT"> ♥ Starygurl  ♥ Talk 22:49, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

ritualist for male summoner and female mage Anatherion 23:11, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

ok then I am changing it <font face="Gill Sans MT"> ♥ Starygurl  ♥ Talk 00:32, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Does that mean it's possible to get only one achievement if you, for example, get both summoner achievements as a male character, then change sex and get both mage achievements as a female character?

-V- 13:32, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Well if you are a male with full summoner you will get Ritualist achievement and then change sexe you will have mage full female and ritualist achievement <font face="Gill Sans MT"> ♥ Starygurl  ♥ Talk 22:16, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Mage on male is summoner on female and summoner on male is mage on female. mage(male) summoner(female) - it's same questflag. There is no bug. Leree 09:12, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Natural Sweetener, Happy Farmer and Homebrewed
09:47 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Natural Sweetener" <--- cut 50 sugar cains in liberty bay

09:58 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Homebrewed" <-- use 50 bunchs of sugar cain on a Distilling Machine

12:24 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Happy Farmer". <-- cut ~200 wheats (gives 1 point,grade 1,secret)

Way of the Shaman
Way of the Shaman gives 6 points

Open Blue
14:09 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Open Blue". <--- enter to a "Swimming sea" about 300~500 times 2points - secret - grade 1

Just tried ~1k times (did about 30-50/min for about 20-25 minutes) in the swimming pool in Halls of Serenity. Didn't get any achievement. In what swimming area did you do this?

Nevaran 20:37, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

I also tried for 30 min and didn't get any achiev :~ // Siamix

Same here, tried for 30 min and nothing :S Lanzador 21:22, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Today said in trade chat that there was an achievement for jumping in Thais water 300~500 times... Tough, he could be this same user trolling, after all, both used 300~500 as an estimation of the number, even with the ~ character...

Just to be sure, has anyone tried in Thais beach? The one south of Thais, close to the Minotaur Guard spawn.

Old Rush Wood 22:31, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

1 hour trying, more than 1000 times, nothing happened. FAKE!

Cursed!
some ppl in menera have this achievement, i still don't know how to do it, but i know it's something to do with being cursed cuz one guy died by death while doing it how do we do it?Klapauciusrnex 23:52, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

It's done by using the claw of noxious until it breaks u get cursed by it and it hits up to 500.DreadElder 17:55, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I can confirm that achievement 21:16 Congratulations! You earned the achievement "Cursed!". Using the claw for several times, if you want you can just the claw take it from your ring and then put again and use the claw again (300~500 times maybe). PainUs 00:55, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I heard that if you take the claw of it "resets" itself so it won't break and then you start over, I'm not sure though it's what wiki says, but if you did it like that I guess it works.DreadElder 17:55, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I take off and put on my claw regulary, and since I got it I used many times (2000+) and it has never broken. So it's probably true, that it resets. SIGMA 01:08, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

I used the claw on hotkey for 40~ minutes and got the achievement Anatherion 02:08, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

Can you tell me how many times you have used this claw? 10:57 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 10:57 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 10:57 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 10:57 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 10:57 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 10:57 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 10:58 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 10:58 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 10:58 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 10:58 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 10:59 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 10:59 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 10:59 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:00 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:00 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:00 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:00 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:00 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:01 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:01 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:01 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:01 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:02 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:02 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:02 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:02 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:02 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:03 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:03 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:03 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:04 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:04 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:05 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:05 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:06 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:06 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:06 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:06 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:06 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:07 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:07 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:07 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:07 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:07 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:07 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:10 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:10 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:10 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:10 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:10 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:11 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:11 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:11 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:11 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:12 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:12 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:13 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:13 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:13 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:13 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:14 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:14 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:14 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:14 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:15 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:15 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:15 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:15 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:15 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:16 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:16 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... 11:17 Using the last claw of 'The Noxious Spawn'... There's more than 60 times as it can be readed from item info on wikia. Leree 09:18, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

in the claw's article, it says after around 60 times there's a CHANCE that u'll be cursed OR poisoned.Klapauciusrnex 09:27, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

after putting on or after using? Leree 09:31, September 25, 2010 (UTC)

i did it recently. You have to put it into ring slot use it and put it off and repeat that until u get cursed /c