User talk:Sixorish/Archive 4

Userpage1 template messed
You fixed the userpage1 template when a user mistakenly added his info there, but i just notice in begin of the template is written "Peace not war" instead "Hello". I tryed fix it but couldnt find out how. Maguu 02:07, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I reverted it to the right revision this time. -- Sixorish 08:31, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Vandal User:Motome
This guy added nom sence and wrong information on pages and did useless edits on demon dust page. Maguu 14:28, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I blocked him, thanks for reporting. -- Sixorish 14:37, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Spells
2 weaks ago you ban me for my edits, now i can explain you why i was doing that



thats the way me, and my friends see all the spells pages =/ Dermar

Thanks for this, it helps a lot. Are all of you who are experiencing this using the old CologneBlue skin? could you try viewing this page, and tell me if it works? -- Sixorish 16:12, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

In the case that you are all using CologneBlue, could you follow these following steps for me? -- Sixorish 16:41, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * 1) In Google Chrome, press ctrl U when on a TibiaWiki page (this should open a tab with the page's source)
 * 2) Copy the contents of the tag - from to, it will probably be big: in particular, I'm looking for a CSS which your skin ignores, or a CSS to use to fix the problem.
 * 3) Paste the contents at User:Sixorish/bug, I'll take it from there and hopefully will find (and fix) the problem.

In the morning the pages were still buged, now they are fixed, thanks for your help (: Dermar

How odd.. Did Chrome update automatically or something? I don't believe anything was changed on this wiki regarding the layout.. Just curious, as I was unable to reproduce the problem you were experiencing.

Temahk 06:55, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Must've been a caching problem, the new revision fixed it (compare User:Sixorish/test2 and Antidote on Chrome). -- Sixorish 12:49, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Explorer Society Quest
Hello, you locked the Explorer Society Quest so I can't change it, reward is now additional a crown backpack. You get it if you finished astral portals mission. Also you can buy after that mission crown backpacks for 800gp ea, you don't need all other missions.

Cya Florianus

Hi, the page is protected for new users only, if you need to edit it you can by editing less restrictive pages and being a registered for 10 days. However, it looks to me like the quest page has that information already ... The Explorer Society Quest/Spoiler. Is there something missing? -- Sixorish 12:49, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi, think I am even longer registered than only 10 days. Anyway, missing is that you get a Crown Backpack additional to the 6 Orichalcum Pearls -> quest info, reward.

Cya Florianus 18:00, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Is it accurate now?

About the protection: I'm not sure how it works exactly, but with the amount of contribs you have, you should be able to edit that page. I recently lowered the protection, perhaps it was changed after you checked? (can you submit this now?) -- Sixorish 18:59, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is fine now. :)

I still can't edit the quest informations (reward ect) - quest spoiler I can edit (as you can see). Only getting error message due restriction. Maybe I am doing it wrong.

Florianus 00:13, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah, you're right. That isn't my protection; that's the full, cascading protection on top of it (at TibiaWiki:Protect). The overview will likely remain protected for a while, because the process of converting to autoconfirmed is tediously long... -- Sixorish 01:30, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Monster sounds
Just using the same standard for all sounds: Making all look like this: "sound"; "sound"; "sound". The ones I need to fix are like this "sound", <---coma    "sound"   <--- no dot in the end   " shound " < misplaced spaces. Thats all am doing. --Kwigon the sharpshooter 15:59, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

loot standards
I think a good/simple way to sort loot from random bosses is to tag (rare) in the especial items they drop. Even if it is a always drop from the boss in general, due to the boss rare spawn the item is rare. That could be a good way to organize Morg page, would like to hear what u think abt this kind or sorting. Maguu 20:06, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
 * The item may be rare and that is reflected on the item's page in it's player-to-player price; however respective to the monster the drop is common. I say respective to the monster as it's the monsters page and they are the monster's drops. With your system how would be apply it to gold coins and we couldn't just apply it to 100 % boss drops - that'd be confusing. '''Craggles Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile

''' 08:22, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

How would we tag an item which seldom drops? If rare indicates that the item is valuable, the nomenclature will conflict and confuse not only the reader, but the editor too. I think it's best as it stands, primarily because users (speculating here) won't want to switch between multiple sets of rules for different monster types. -- Sixorish 09:05, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I could not agree more with that. The rareness of loot on monster pages should go according to their rareness of loot statistics, no matter if the monster spawns rare, is rare to kill etc. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 09:46, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

please change - about warlocks... the max damage of a wrl in the article which u protect is 810+, please change it to 500+ (i have been hunting wrls for over half a year and none ever hit me more but 500) and also change the drop rate (lightning legs, and robe to rare [about 10 during several hunts]) and ring of the sky to very rare (looted only once). thx upfront! ~Allan

Library Issues
Thais Libraries for instance has had it's format completely broken because for some reason any tabulated toc's force away code beneath it. It's strange and I can't think of a fix. '''Craggles Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile '''

I made an edit to Template:Library, is it fixed? -- Sixorish 00:21, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes thanks '''Craggles Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile

'''

Machinery of War Quest
The quest page is protected and i can't edit it. I think that the page should be fixed a little bit (especialy about ranks) according to my own experience with this quest and few information from other sites (like tibiaml). Can you unprotect this page? Tazi 12:18, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

I'll do it. Interesting there is no reward besides experience known yet. I'm gonna try this (just became lvl 50). ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 13:55, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Warlock
I'd like to add some info about warlocks and I can't. It's not a quest article but it's protected. Why?

Vampire Shield Quest/Spoiler included the warlock page, which in turn was protected with cascading of User:Sixorish/Protect. It will be removed in a sec. -- Sixorish 20:20, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

helper
Hello,

I wanted to fill in some data on TibiaWiki:Helpers (just for historical correctness) and I was wondering if you were appointed as a senior helper after all. What I remember is you rejected the offer and only hunter and me were appointed (after looking through old emails), maybe you can confirm this :) ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 13:02, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

I wasn't, as far as I know. -- Sixorish 13:29, September 18, 2009 (UTC)

Tomurka
I would like to upgrade info about Demon Oak Quest. It has been confirmed by Tomurka, that after killing 6666 demons from Grizzly Adams' task, you can enter the infested area.

Can you provide any prove? You say it's confirmed, but anyone can say that. A screenshot or anything alike would be good. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 11:46, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Never mind found some proof here. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 13:35, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

And once again it requires power and time, rather than knowledge or a brain to complete a quest.

Temahk 14:24, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

There are quest which require knowledge and brain, but they are simply not spoiled. Besides, when doing (the first part) of Treasure Hunt Quest on test server some brain was needed to understand clues, a poem etc. (but I agree killing demons is a lousy way of ability to start demon oak quest). ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 21:58, September 19, 2009 (UTC)

Template:Table

 * Is the table template necessary?If so, how's it useful. '''Craggles Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile

''' 14:49, September 22, 2009 (UTC)

I used it to make Magic Syllables easier to read without the page clutter, but come to think of it, a wikitable could have been used... -- Sixorish 02:27, September 23, 2009 (UTC)
 * That's what I was curious about. '''Craggles Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile

''' 08:58, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

no WYSIWYG
Indeed it forces the rich text editor to shut up, pages with it will open with "normal" editing by default and when you try to switch to rich text it gives a popup with "Rich text editing has been disabled for this page because article contains: the "no wysiwyg" command" (e.g. here). But I don't think the line will be transcluded to all pages using a template, when the line is in the template. If I want to edit Julera with rich text it gives another reason: "Rich text editing has been disabled for this page because article contains: template parameters". Or if there are more reasons this one will be displayed first. Bennie2 10:59, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Well a user made an edit which seemed to produce the problems caused by the RTE just prior to the change. If you can't edit it with RTE but can on other pages (such as item articles) I think it would be safe to conclude that the template having the magic word had some effect. -- Sixorish 17:23, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

Nice
Good job on protecting all quest articles with autoconfirmed, I'm not sure if you're done already but then User:Sixorish/Protect can be deleted/commented out right? What I was wondering is, why did you delete your userpage? It creates awful red links in RC (IMO). ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 12:05, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Recreated the user page. It was outdated and frankly I couldn't be bothered updating it. The pages cannot be blanked out just yet ... I think (but not sure) I have protected all from A-G, will get to the others later. Pages on User:Sixorish/Autoconfirm/List reflect progress thus far. -- Sixorish 13:34, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, that's cool. I clicked on one link to test, continue with homework now :) ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 14:40, October 18, 2009 (UTC)

You undid my little edit...
"Aff" is actively used as "Away from friends" by all tibians I have come across over these many many years. It isn't not a little phrase shared between me and my friends but with anyone wishing to provide a threat of a possible pk attempt. So, that revision was not needed and I am shocked you haven't heard of it being used....often. --Mentor Aragoth 12:27, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

Have you ever bothered to ask people what they intended by this? It's hard to define given the context alone. -- Sixorish 12:39, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

I have actually asked every now and then, they say "aff" and i'm like "away from~?" and they say yes. Also every strong english speaking person knows this abbreviation and do not know of it meaning "dam". Matter of fact i've never come across a situation where "aff" was said and "dam" fits the situation.

Just saying, it's only known as "away from friends" to a lot of people....a lot. Its not important, but I thought the little edit was okay...I guess not.--Mentor Aragoth 13:40, October 21, 2009 (UTC)

I always thought it was some kind of brazilian synonym of "wtf is happening?". Can you give an example when you would say away from friends? Like "he is aff, let's attack him" ? Never ever, saw it is such context... ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 20:41, October 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * My first language is English and I've only ever seen Aff used by Brazilian speakers. I never even guessed it was an acronym over just an expression of annoyance. '''Craggles Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile

'''

That's, kind of amazing since all the people I know use "aff" as "away from friends". They say it when they are angry at you for doing whatever you did, and all they say is usually "aff" as to mean they will get their revenge later when you are alone. My first and only language is English, and this is actually the only way i've known this expression.

I find it odd you don't know it, its both Internet Lingo (common) and Tibian language. Interesting, do you guys know the term "PAW" maybe? It means "Parents are watching" and is common amongst young players. --Mentor Aragoth 02:47, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

The problem with this is that we can't use search engines to find whether or not it is in active use (e.g., google:"AFF" "away from friends") because away from friends is a common construction. As far as I've searched, I cannot find a single instance of the acronym being used on the Internet. Do you know of any online communities which use the acronym? -- Sixorish 03:40, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I can only find this term used as such, in-game. Through a search engine it just leads me to some random websites. But I assure you, I have never heard of it being used as "dam", in no way would it have ever fit. Anyway, its not important, I just thought it'd be something to add since many...MANY people use this term as such. --Mentor Aragoth 04:03, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

I have heard aff used this way and as various expletives. Considering the context that it is used as a threat, it makes sense that it could also be an expletive. I recall first hearing it on Rookgaard in 2004 typed by Brazilian players but many people of different languages use it. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me

I did a edit to fit both sides, ok now? :) ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 07:47, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

about TibiaNews link
I've edited because had a wrong tag in "here"

Apoleex 23:36, October 22, 2009 (UTC)

A "wrong tag"? I can't see what you mean. -- Sixorish 00:06, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

Editing Secret Service Quest
Hello, I was wondering if i'd be able to edit the secret service quest. Wanted to add some screen shots that might be helpful. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pwl (talk &bull; contribs). Remember to sign your comments!

I unprotected it for you, if you have more than 10 edits and an account older than 3 days you should be able to edit the page now. If it does not work, give a shout, good luck. ;) ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 20:57, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

OMG! I broke it. uffff... ok all back to normal

thank god for backlogs! 9:12, Oct 24, 2009 (CET, GMT+1)

Wild Warrior
Ahoi! I just noticed Wild Warriors drop eggs. I don't know how many max or how rare it is, but I tried to add that to the page. I can't since it's protected, so could you investigate a bit? Silven6 13:07, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Should be unprotected now.. -- Sixorish 14:44, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Concerning "A piece of Draconian Steel"
It should be 'fiery', not 'firy'. I tried to edit it but it was protected.

Silven6 13:37, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cheers '''Craggles Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile

''' 13:45, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

In what way mine userpage violated the tibiawikia policy? Why did you delete it?

Check: TibiaWiki:User_Page_Guidelines Jura 16:38, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

Typo in the title
Hello:) Thank you for clearing up my last issue. I was wondering if you could help me allso to find out how i can change typos in the title of a page. There is a page called "List of pickeable holes" that contains quite alot of typos, and gramatic errors, that i started correcting. The problem is that I can't seem to correct the title of the page.

 06:31, February 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you

Responded at User talk:Arpet. -- Sixorish 06:51, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

My userpage
Hello,

you have deleted mine userpage and as the reason of it you said it violates tibia wikia rules, would you please tell me which exactly points, since I can't find any?

Thank you,

Patryk.

Please read the messages already on your talk page (User talk:Tibiawt). The policy mentions that userpages should be kept in accord with TibiaWiki:User Page Guidelines. Specifically, your user page violated 2.1; quoted: -- Sixorish 01:27, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Sites containing any of the following are strictly NOT tolerated:
 * 2) 1Advertising of Tibia-related services, including world-trades, Tibia for real life cash exchange, and the like.

Change in locked page.
Greetings

I wonder if you might help me edit a page that im not able to change.

http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/Arito%27s_Task_Quest/Spoiler

I would like the add the text:

---

Note: Once you entered the gate with one player the gate will close and you will need a new scimitar to enter with another player.

Thanks!

Yours

kZ

Hi. Unfortunately you cannot edit that page at this time. You need to be active for at least 4 days and have 10 edits to your name. After that you will be able to edit without restrictions (it's to deter vandalism). I have added the proposed text and will format the page in a more presentable way shortly. Thanks for your contribution! -- Sixorish 07:37, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

problem with TibiaWiki:Featured Item
I have problem with this template. I can't implement keys nor runes. Could you check/fix that please?

TibiaWiki:Featured_Item

Jura 19:14, March 2, 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I'm sorry but keys and runes cannot be used for the simple reason that we do not have a template for them. In addition, the templates we do use for featured items uses the parameters not included on the key or rune template. I currently don't have the time or patience to do this but will try it tomorrow. If you'd like to try it, you could create one too. Template:Infobox Item/Featured would be a valuable example to go by if you wish to create one. You would have to create the template Infobox Key/Featured and Infobox Rune/Featured (it appears the latter exists; but it won't work for now following the convention of featured items, because of I believe a bug in Template:Infobox Rune). If they aren't already, I'll deal with these tomorrow. -- Sixorish 20:52, March 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * They both should now work, but since keys were not oriented for featured items, some key pages will need changes (e.g. Key 0000 has a huge image generally unsuitable for presentation on the main page) -- Sixorish 05:22, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Wanted Pages
About Special:WantedPages, particularly Template:Infobox Item/Template/ what is needed to be removed from those pages inorder to remove this from the wanted pages? I have done some before for One-Handed Sword Weapons for example such as removing the secondtype, but I'm not sure about this one. beejay 18:13, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

They will only be removed when they are created. The problem is that the link is there because each #ifexist on a blank parameter call links to them. We have this in an attempt to lower the page generation time caused by excessive DPL calls, but I don't think it made a difference (I asked Wikia and they noticed nothing, but we didn't employ a large scale transition until later). I have been considering removing them and replacing DPL, but keep putting it off when I see people creating new pages to list them. It also means that some items will be miscategorized and they won't have accurate secondarytypes (and they will list accordingly).

I do want to change back to DPL, but it would require a lot of time and effort deleting all that has been created. I would also need community consensus because they put a lot of effort in creating them too. -- Sixorish 18:35, March 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * We were supposed to only use dpl during update times and manually employ it during the intermediate stages or so I thought. Then everyone sort of forgot. '''Craggles Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile

''' 21:13, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

While it's true we were advised (here) to optimize the DPL usage, the part of the conversation which stands out to me is this phrase: ''Another thing to consider with DPL's, is "exactly how dynamic" is the list? If you have a page where the list only changes a tiny bit every other month, and it's a heavily visited page, then perhaps considering maintaining the list manually can reduce server load even further than enabling DPL cache.''

Now, my theory before was that each item gets one list, and this means it takes longer to refresh each list. I didn't consider however that the performance reduction was derived from the amount of times the list is accessed. Since the list is used for each individual page (or so I believe), the performance of using the lists on those pages means very little unless it's a high-traffic page, when it shouldn't make a difference anyway. (This I'm not entirely certain on, I requested someone from Wikia staff ('Fuzzy I think) to monitor the performance and tell me of any drastic changes. None, at all, were noticeable.)

The only difference between the old and new is that the templates existing now are grouped in categories. The old used variables directly from the template, causing some items with bad categories (e.g. typographical errors and such) to get a list anyway. Having many lists doesn't seem to cause many performance issues, but having one uncached list of high volume traffic does.

I think it would be better off simply reverting to the old template because it's cleaner, easier to maintain, can be cached with just one parameter (and not 50+!)

Anyway, Craggles - that argument is moot if you take a look at what many of the pages are comprised of. Most still use DPL because the point of the change was to test what I just mentioned above.

(I went off on a tangent, sorry) -- Sixorish 22:50, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

Well.. I partly understood that! :) So does that mean that if they were reverted to the old template that removing those secondary categories would not be a good idea? beejay 18:46, March 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Was the old template the way we're still doing it with creatures i.e embedding the dpl in the template and then caching the result? '''Craggles Random::Chat::Contributions::Tibicam Profile

''' 19:24, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Beejay: If we reverted, removing them would be a good idea more often than not, if the secondarytypes do not deserve a list devoted to them (i.e. some pages had a list of one handed sword weapons which was an adverse effect of the secondarytype (proper weapon pages do not have this as the secondarytype, but are categorized as one-handed by the hands parameter)

Craggles: Pretty much. You can see it in the revisions of Template:Infobox Item. -- Sixorish 19:37, March 10, 2010 (UTC)

Wiki update
I just meant about the duplicate links, there also seemed to be issues with the time it took for pages to load but that could have been my fault/issues with my router. beejay 15:25, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah ok :) Well it's good to know that they are aware of them problem, shame the performance update won't update the performance of my router! beejay 16:09, March 17, 2010 (UTC)

Official resellers at main page
Yes, you are right about refers to premiums services, but the majority tibia players dont know about official resellers and their products. I'm not thinking about only my company because this announce will show all resellers not one in special. The Tibia player normaly buy's something to play, why not show all options to them. Cipsoft is a company, resellers are companys, all them want to sell something. I don't see any problem about show this in main page this, but if you dont want to do this i dont see any problem.

I am against as I really dislike advertisements at wiki --Jura 17:57, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

How do you speak for the majority? Presenting such a link on our main page would suggest to the average user that 1) we have affiliations with those people, 2) we endorse them, 3) we can ensure authenticity of such services. Since we can do/do none of those, it's just plain unprofessional to do it. Besides, if speaking for majority, I think most people would be able to purchase premium time without the use of resellers. You not having many customers as expected does not imply unawareness of your services. Finally, we have to think what the average user really wants to see. We could literally have thousands of links there but in my experience people don't bother reading anything if presented with large lists. -- Sixorish 18:04, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Poll / contact
Hey sixorish, I really dont know how to use this... I'm sorry for that. How do I talk to you directly? Thanks for editing my poll. I think I edited it before reading your message, but thanks anyway. I really dont know how to make the poll but I think the re-edit was fine. Please let me know if I can talk to you some other way. Thanks in advanced!

Martinchox 07:23, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

You can email me and we can make contact through email - that's not very direct though. I generally don't disclose any public things such as IM addresses because I like to separate my wiki and personal life. If it's an absolute must, I could find an alternative way.

About the poll: You can see how the poll works by looking at the source: the first line is the question, the following are the responses. The poll started automatically when I made the edit. When we say that there is no poll for next week, we simply mean that we have no poll to appear on the main page the next week. We don't even stop these polls - they go on forever. I hope this answers your question. -- Sixorish 07:32, March 30, 2010 (UTC)

Hello...Golden HELMET in SHIVERA
Today a player in shivera apear with this helmet...

Aldhebaran, i have screenshot with him in trade

i w8 reply..

stanlley_yashiro@hotmail.com

Don't hold your breathe. -- Sixorish 16:40, March 30, 2010 (UTC)