User talk:Sixorish

Archived
This page was recently archived, all discussion were more or less closed, to see previous discussions see the most recent archive (User talk:Sixorish/Archive 4). -- Sixorish 03:23, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Requests
If you need help, please go to another active administrator as I will not be able to help you. -- Sixorish 03:23, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Regarding Protection
The protection of quest articles is after a long series of vandalism. It is unlikely we will unprotect all permanently or even temporarily. Ask another administrator if you need to make an edit / request individual unprotection.

-- Sixorish 03:23, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Leaving
You're leaving? On April the first? Coincidence or a joke.. ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 07:59, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Clearly a joke. -- Sixorish 08:15, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

April Fools! It isn't a joke (come on, what a lame joke that would be)

I've been contemplating it for the past month or so. A lot of thoughts crossed my mind, and I think it's for the best that I leave now.

I have grown a disgust for Wikia. They're cheating us for their own benefit really. They're getting paid to host this website by advertising revenue -- Erig could have been intense on the advertising to support it and it wouldn't be as bad. For one, our default skin would be Monobook. Not that I hate Monaco, but it's horribly inefficient and downright ugly although they have been improving it. They created their own skin with one thing in mind: advertising revenue. They decided to drop the option for users to use old, unsupported skins, because they did not go well with their advertising model.

Next, have you noticed any problems while editing? Frankly, I'm sick of these bugs crawling in without warning. I don't even think they test their software updates before implementation. That's sick. We now have the rich text editor enabled and were forced to make editors use the it by shoving NOWYSIWYG on the templates. As if that wasn't bad enough, it doesn't solve it. I've seen a case where the RTE screwed over a user's signature on a talk page. Now, this bug may not be a problem. Sure, it can be reduced by not using their feature. But what good is adding features nobody will use. What good is it if your features will only ever give rise to problems. I can't say they fail at coding, because I'm not a programmer myself. But you know, if these critical problems arose in my system I would try to rid them even if it means disabling a feature.

Another reason Erig would make a better host is because he knows the community, what is necessary for our development, and can commit to our needs. Wikia host several thousand "communities" (single-user communities are apparently communities nonetheless) and they can't judge what is best for us. They don't even care for community. They're a commercial company and this is not a service to the general public with good intents. You could argue that Wikia are just like any other advertising-supported website, but I feel most websites have something to offer you. MySpace is intended for people to socialize (irony in socializing by an antisocial medium?) and enriches lives. Google provides links to masses of information and increased traffic to developers. YouTube provides entertainment, gives would-be actors an opportunity to show their talent, and presents a social medium. What does Wikia do? They provide servers for us to provide the content and maintain it. Do we gain anything? We have to develop our own community, we have to build our own content (don't know if you get satisfaction from writing up templated articles, but I don't). Unlike Wikia staff, Erig was / is part of this community and (I believe) cares more for the development than the expenses involved.

A year or so ago, I asked on the talk page of some Wikia staff member to disable my account because it's too distracting and I didn't want to / should not be here. Do you know what they said? They said that I should just stop contributing. If it was distracting do you think I would willingly come back here?!

My life didn't seem so bad at that point. I might even say I learned a few valuable things in my time here. I gained a sense of importance in team work, and I understand now a lot about the technical aspects of wikis (like that'll help me in life).

Recently however my life has become increasingly worse, which is why I have had the time to be around here, but which is why I should not. I have pushed away many of my real-life friends because of sticky situations. I should be fixing the damages that were done to the people I care about in the real world. I should be recouping from the state I am in.

Okay, I exaggerated to some extent in my last paragraph. But I have come to a realization. My virtual life in its entirety - not just TW / MMORPGs - has been taking too much of my time. To put a context around this: I expected to be done reading a chapter of a textbook by the end of March (i.e. comprehend and fully grasp meaning throughout). I had a whole month to read those 90 pages (it's an analysis textbook, so you don't read it like a novel). I managed to read and understand 21 of those pages. Tibia / TW are not the most time consuming things in my life, but they are distractions nonetheless, as is any other video game and online community I am involved in. I have to make these adjustments because it has begun to adversely affect my life.

Over the last three months I have been in close contact with a lot of close friends on Tibia. I have come to see a trend in Tibia, or MMORPGs in general. Nearly all of my friends who play Tibia are depending upon a miracle to live a successful future. One unnamed person is relying to become big in the music industry when one of his band members has a lifethreatening illness - he has no real future as far as I can see. One failed a psychology course at university and is now an English teacher. He's perhaps the second most academically successful person I have met on Tibia. Most of them have no intentions on going to university or progressing in education. The trend being Tibia and other MMORPGs are negative influence on our generation. I don't want to be affiliated with any videogames during the decisive years of my life. They are, in the end, a waste of time - time that could be better spent doing productive things in life. (note: I think you'd have a lot of fun searching YouTube for "WoW ruined my life" -- sad yes, but it's true how MMORPGs can cause problems)

Finally, I kept around because I thought I was needed, but I'm not. You guys can manage the wiki on your own. In fact, I just protected all the pages that were on my protect page some hours ago. It is this that was keeping me around. I felt I had duties left, because if I did not delete that protection page I would have people whining to me an endless coil of complaints and thus I would be reprimanded for disappearing without notice.

In summary: Yes, it is a bad and coincidental date to leave. But no, it's not a joke.

I don't think I will ever be coming back. I need to focus on studying and generally fixing my life.

What does this mean for TW? Well, nothing major I guess. I have not been a contributor for the past 1-2 years so my edits mean little to nothing as far as what visitors want. I just help maintain it and you guys are better at managing time than I; I'm sure you'll find time.

I hope this message made sense and didn't contradict itself. I have a tendency to do that in long passages of text.

Speaking of time management, why did I even spend 50 minutes writing this essay? God help me. -- Sixorish 10:21, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad to see there are at least a few people who experience this kind of revelation. I can imagine we'll have an entire generation of people with no ambition or goals, somewhere in the dark future.

Bona fortuna.

Temahk 12:03, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Wow, what a reply. Actually it made a big impression on me when I first read it (about 4 hours ago). I just read it again and wanted to reply on some things.

If you think it's for your own best to go: by all means, go. Real life is outside there waiting for you, the moment the virtual life is taking you over you should radically cut it out.

'what do I gain with tibiawiki/MMORPG stuff?' - a good question. When I became the contact person for tibiawiki I reviewed my time here too. To be honest, I'm not sure if it was the right thing to do (becoming contact person), when I started university last September I considered completely stop with tibia/TW to have all time for study. But I think I can say (but I might be still too blind) life essentially doesn't work that way. You'll always have spare time, which you fill with stuff. As long as this stuff a) doesn't take more time than your spare time (skipping school/quality time with rl friends) and b) you still get satisfaction out if it it shouldn't be a problem. I learned a lot from tibia/TW - not in the first place english skills and technical stuff - but the moment I see it as a obligation and not enjoy it anymore I will stop with it. When I started with all of this I enjoyed it more, or at least in a completely other way. When you're low in the hierarchy you have people to look up to (like I did to e.g. Whitelaces back then). People to learn from, people to follow. You dream about getting to the top - but when you get there you'll find it wasn't like you thought it would be.

You might be right, in essence you are not needed, neither am I. A wiki runs itself. But this doesn't necessarily means you are not wanted, or people don't appreciate you were here. Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing you should stay, don't hesitate to fix your life, I'm certain you will eventually succeed ;) ^^ Bennie (talk ~ fellows) ^^ 14:56, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I think it is a real shame to see you go and I hope you will be back..but definitely not in the sense that this place takes over your life. Recently I found it strange how I spent more time on here than I even did playing Tibia. Regardless of this though, I won't let either take over my important time. I can understand why you are doing this and maybe you aren't needed here but it has always been nice to have you around.

I have to admit I have also been rather annoied with the way wikia keep playing around with their software and the likes.. I don't believe you should try to fix what is not broken and it appears most businesses don't take that approach, although most will improve with the least possible issues in between and not use their customers etc. as guinnea pigs..

I realise you will probably not come back so I guess it is fitting to say that I wish you all the best. I hope whatever problems you have will be sorted soon and that you get your life back to where it should be. Take care and good luck. :) beejay 15:48, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

All things must come to an end. I wish you the best of luck and may you prosper in your rl, Sixorish. It was been a pleasure and an honour working with you. You will be remembered with solomn reverence. Xuban 16:22, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to say that you were very useful to TibiaWiki in the last 3 years and 2 months. You are courageous in making this decision, and you are right!

Good luck with your real life, Sixorish!

&lt;·&gt; Hunter of Dragoes &lt;·&gt; My Talk &lt;·&gt; My Contributions &lt;·&gt; 22:03, April 2, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks guys for all your support. I have to admit, I didn't see myself leaving entirely as realistic at first. I watched over periodically to ensure all was going well, but as I suspected, maintenance is fine without me (perhaps even nonexistent? I haven't seen any recent vandalism).

Beejay: I think you misunderstood me. Tibiawiki/Tibia were never taking over my life. However, me being here was taking time - it doesn't have to be a minute or an hour a day or week, but I have overseen a wiki of a game I don't have interest in anymore. There is a better way to allocate this time, and that's why I left. My problems were mostly family/friendship/my future issues that I had caused months ago or over the course of them, again, not because of Tibia/Tibiawiki.

Bennie: Nice reply, thank you.

I'm not back, just casually coming and going again. Ciao! -- Sixorish 01:50, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

Can I pick your brain
See Hunting Places

The locations column is now throughly boned by the newest Minimap template, dpl not moving templates on wiki text results in an eyesore. My only idea would be to make a next variable purely for the minimap link/template. However it'd be alot of work in place of a smarter resolve. The smartest way to fix the location variable en mass however would be to use a dpl to edit the articles. I'd need to do more reading on it but it looks doable from what I've seen here, I'd be worried it'd destroy lots of articles however. I'm rambling and I hope it doesn't come to that and I'm sure there's a smarter way of fixing it.  Craggles  ಠ_ಠ  Talk ∙ Contribs  20:15, August 4, 2010 (UTC)

Not sure I can help I'm afraid. I don't have the time to play with it anymore and I'm not experienced with DPL (much of what I knew, I have forgotten). If it were me, I would convert to the system we used temporarily for the object sidebar list (not sure if its in place still), and use a replace function on a substituted DPL list so that it's properly expanded. Would require regular updates, but how often do new articles get created? -- Sixorish 20:27, August 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Daniel saved the day.  Craggles  ಠ_ಠ  Talk ∙ Contribs  14:55, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

By eliminating the template, right? Or is that temporary? -- Sixorish 05:30, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

Protected Rewards
On the Pilgrimage of Ashes Quest/Spoiler blessing needs to be linked to the blessing page.

Sas'ka

I have linked the blessings page. If it is not satisfactory I would appreciate it if you spoke to one of the other TibiaWiki:Administrators instead, or a casual editor as I am generally not available here on most days / trying to dissociate myself with this wiki. (your post did remind me to take email notifications off, though.. thanks!?). -- Sixorish 20:39, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

New Look
Hi there,

I just stopped by here to check out the wiki in the new look and noticed there wasn't a custom theme yet. I see you have a nice wordmark, and I added the "Rock garden" theme for now. Has the community started talking about the new look at all? I am happy to start a conversation somewhere, or to answer any questions you may have. I also left a message for Beejay and Hunter of Dragoes. Cheers, Sarah (Help Forum) (blog) 23:25, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

You make the presumption that I know what the community has been doing lately. I don't. I stopped contributing here on April 01 and since then have been only editing upon specific requests. As far as I know, the only discussion pages for things affecting the wiki as a whole are Talk:Administrator Team and Tibiawiki talk:Community Portal. If there is not a discussion there, then no, I don't think there will be a discussion anywhere. In the future, perhaps you should post on the talk pages which are designated this purpose. That is what other Wikia staff members do to reach out to us. But if that is not possible, then please do have the courtesy to at least look at the section headers of the talk pages. I have left this community. I have no connections, power, influence, or desire to contribute anymore. Furthermore, why did you insist on notifying me, and not many of the active administrators? Bennie, Daniel Letalis, Craggles, and DM all have more authority than I do (0, if you want to quantify that).

-- Sixorish 16:04, October 19, 2010 (UTC)  Craggles  ಠ_ಠ  Talk ∙ Contribs  16:28, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Don't be forgettin BJ

Never. User talk:Beejay! -- Sixorish 16:32, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to have bothered you. I have been chatting with the other admins and on the community portal. Best, --Sarah (Help Forum) (blog) 00:24, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

No worries, I saw that you were doing them and thought it couldn't hurt to help, but I did just make a booboo on the cobra tongue page :p

A Father's Burden Quest
This quest was not appearing in the main quest list. This is because the creator mistakenly placed the Quest Overview page in the Quest Spoiler category. I have had trouble adding things to categories and I've resorted to putting the category assignment in the article itself. Can you tell me where all the pages' categories are kept? eg. How does the wiki know that an Amber Staff is a Club Weapon and how can it be changed if it was incorrect?

Editing (implemented)
Hey I've done all the updates left in "plants..." I don't know when anything else was implemented but if you have a list somewhere you could send I would happily edit those pages too :)

No list I'm afraid. I'm currently following them from the updates pages (I have a list of 8.6 ones on my User:Sixorish/Version page, but they're almost done). I could gather you a list if you like, or you could do it yourself (take a look at the page source of that page I just linked, quite easy to do with a search and replace function) -- Sixorish 01:51, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think I'll leave looking at that until tomorrow, it's a little late here :)

erm search and replace function? I'm uber noob on wikis Connarhea 01:57, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

Search and replace isn't a wiki function, it's standard in most text editors with Regular expression or similar support. For example you could go to the Armors page, copy the page's source code, paste it in your text editor and replace |List}} with |List/Version}}, then submit it to a user subpage of yours and you can see which ones need a version still. -- Sixorish 02:03, November 21, 2010 (UTC)