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About creature loots
I don't know if someone suggested it before, so here we go.

I really think there should be some way to link the creature's loot to the respective item(or visa-versa). I don't know, maybe using DPL list...

Why? This way we would have to change only one page to add the loot on all related pages. For example, someone added to the Spectre the Abyss Hammer loot, but he didn't added the Spectre to the Abyss Hammer's loot list(I just added it right now).

So, what I mean, shouldn't there be a way to link the items and the monster's so we only need to edit the loot in one place?

Thanks. Cya!

Zephirdd

You got a little bit ahead of me.

Yes, I am working on a way to do exactly that. There are a couple of things that I need to work out, but it will happen in much the way you explained.

--'' Feles mala! '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 11:20, 5 December 2007 (PST)

All right, thank you! :)

Zephirdd

I can't seem to make it work yet. I will keep trying, but for now we need to continue with the way we have it, manually updating both places each time.

--'' Fac ut gaudeam. '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 13:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Listing of all tibia creatures listed on tibia.com along with weaknesses/strengths/immunities
Since it's a large table that would just be used to update the current magical damage pages, I've put it here User:Wisling/Creature_list The higher the value in the column, the higher the damage done to the creature. 1-immune 10-strong against 100-normal damage 1000-weak against

-- Wisling yeh it is a good idea to have a number ammount rather then jsut strong weak as some things take 2x more damage and other take 1.1x its nice to know wich. &iquest;  Dis&Aring;st&eacute;r M&oacute;nt&ecirc;iro &#164;  T&atilde;lk &#164; &iquest; 13:42, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

DPL Issue?
Hi. Maybe it's just me but I'm having problems with some pages and they all seem to be DPL related. The first I noticed was that GFB was missing from the runes page. I was going to fix it, but with DPL, I haven't got a clue how. Now when I try to view the Creatures by EXP page only half of the page displays properly. I've also noticed that the Giants page has no data (other than a couple of /n). When I walked back through the differences, the page seemed to clear up just before the conversion to DPL. I've tried to view the pages through both Firefox and IE and both ways gives the same results. I've also cleared out my cache and that doesn't seem to help either. I'm all for making changes like DPL if it will keep maintenance down, but isn't a wiki supposed to be easy for the readers to update and fix. We may be stepping into a region where anyone who wants to do updates and contribute will require special training or knowledge. Again, it could be just me. At any rate, could you please check the mentioned pages and see if they look ok to you. Thanks for your time.

http://tibia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Creatures_by_Experience_Points

JovianMoon 06:36, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

>The best that i can see is that initially the pages with DPL added do not seem to work, but after refreshing or going back to them they appear. This may have to do with if Erig added DPL and wikia did not, or vice versa. When i went to a page with tibia.erig.net/~ as the url the DPL parsed correctly, but not initially with wikia. I am not quite sure how to solve this, it may be a higher level problem. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 16:41, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

This should be fixed now. According to Nef, they are transitioning their servers to a newer version of MediaWiki, with the latest version of DPL. During this transition, TibiaWiki was placed on the old codebase, which caused DPL to stop working correctly for us.

This should now be resolved.

--'' Veni, vidi, territus sum, curcurri! '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 14:51, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I still see a mess on the 'creatures by experience points' page. Am I the only one seeing this? JovianMoon 14:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

All of the DPL issues should be resolved, but the list of creatures by experience does not use DPL. The problem with that page is that it is too large. There is a hard cap on how many transcluded templates are rendered on a MediaWiki page, and that page exceeds the maximum allowed.

If you view the source of the page, you will see a lot of this:

The only real solution would be to split the page up into smaller pages.

-- Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 14:06, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

RespawnMap
Hi, (-:

I cannot find a wiki page with the code of your extension. (Well, both of them - RespawnMap and Spoiler.) I belive I saw it somewhere back on tibia.erig.net. If you (re)post it here I'll add diffs between your code and what's now on Wikia.

If you want to develop RespawnMap further I'd be more than happy to deploy your code. Guys from gamewikis.org said they would like to test it on GuildWiki, too. This may be cool extension for all gaming wiki at Wikia.

Pls. ping me if I might be of any help for you,

-- Nef (talk) 12:45, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the support. I hadn't really spent much time on the respawn map extension, but it should at least serve as a starting point. In its current condition, there was a problem in Firefox where the images were not lining up properly. I was having some trouble getting them to stay in the containing DIV, but still be positioned ABSOLUTE... whenever I had them contained, they would flow and then the alignment would be all wrong.

I would be pleased if some other people were interested in helping improve it!

Anyway, the code for both of these extensions can be found on these template pages:


 * Template:Spoiler block
 * Template:Respawn Map

The respawn map is not being used on Tibia wiki at the moment, so it is open to any amount of architectural changes.

--'' Veni, vidi, territus sum, curcurri! '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 15:23, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Regarding ;dropped by None
i wonder if we can change that, i find it annoying, cant we link it to dropped by "Quest: "

or even just Quest Item

then you can click on it, and then finally link to the quest to get it.

just wondering xD Starlight Jol 09:50, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll see if I can figure something out for you.

Since this information would be quest spoiling, I hesitate a little bit to make this info too visible. We don't want to ruin the game for anyone, especially people that want to figure out the quests for themselves.

-- ave, Caesar, morituri te salutant  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 15:37, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

thanks for the thoughts,

just a small opinion, i guess most people come here to spoil everything, not many i would think that would come here to get a small piece of info, but hey, i dont see what people look at and what they do/dont spoil :op

i despised of this site at first, but over time i have grown to love it (mainly npc searching and new items to buy etc)

I know what you mean, and that has been a hot topic in the past, which is why we should be sensitive to it.

--'' Quelle scarpe sono veramente stupende. '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 15:53, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

DPL, again
Concerning the DPL formatting on Invisibility, it says no creatures can turn invisible. Many do turn invisible, but it does not seem to pick out the correct word in the abilities line in the Infobox_Creatures templates well. I am uncertain of how to solve this, my only idea, to add internal link brackets on "Invisibility" ( | includematch= ) did not work in preview. I hope there is a simple coding switch, otherwise another set of parameters may be needed for the infobox just for abilities, perhaps similar to the immunities line. --DM ><((°> Contribs <°))>< talk to me 22:43, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
 * On an unrelated note, the problem report 'Actions' are visible for me, but unusable despite what the source code says it should do.

I see that you found a way to fix the list on the Invisibility page. In case you aren't sure why it worked, or if any one else is interested, here's an explanation.

It wasn't working before, because the only included parameter was the "Name" (the line " | include={Infobox_Creature}:name "). This worked in previous versions, but they "fixed" this discrepancy with the current version. Because of that, if you want to do a regex comparison (or any comparison), then the " | include= " line needs to include the template parameter you want to compare against.

I know that won't make very much sense to most people, but it will help to look at the changes that DM made to the page. If you guys have any specific questions, just let me know. I'll do my best to answer them.

--'' Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari? '' --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 14:20, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Reporting someone
I tried to report through your special button but it didn't save. So I'll just leave it here. This user Xanejaqci vandalized: Creatures, Rashid and Chimera. Could you please kick his account? Thanks

 Wie niet slim is moet slim zijn  ^^  &ordm; Bennie &ordm;  &curren; Talk &curren; ^^ 11:40, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the report. DM put a warning on his talk page. If he does it again, he will be blocked from editing.

-- Canis meus id comedit  --  Whitelaces &dagger;  Talk &dagger; -- 14:24, 2 January 2008 (UTC)